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> michealelsie's BULK refund thread, 100% complete =)

temptation1314
post Sep 23 2007, 12:15 AM

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Then would you like to file a complain at Tribunal or get police report and freeze his bank's account and you get $0cent per day?? smile.gif

I'm not siding at seller's side neither do you all. I'm just explaining a situation where the best solution had been make by the seller.

2nd way, ask seller's to produce his supplier details and get contact with him or else another police report and freeze his account. Voila, what do you get in the end?
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post Sep 23 2007, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Sep 23 2007, 01:24 AM)
A solution suggestion:
Tell your parents about those bad deals and refund the money first.
When you received the stocks from the supplier you could still sell it for a profit. Also, when the supplier refunds you, you still got the money back!
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So you're thinking in your own shoes and not everyone's shoes.

The refund amount is due RM10k+

Wouldn't you mind if you just ask your parents - "Ma, 10k please" or "Ba, 10k please"??

Second thing just to remind. If seller had capital, he wouldn't mind to start a business at here while he can go open his own computer shop. The thing is there's a lot of bulker comes here just to earn side income with their already known supplier(well, some are not maybe??)

Edit :
As cstkl1 suggested, better find out the supplier and get all the details whether those claims are true or not. sweat.gif I know some supplier making a fake bulk and gather those money for his debt and then later on pay back.

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post Sep 23 2007, 02:29 AM

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Well i believe michael <--- sure got contacts with supplier ma.

J-Slade, it's ok to rush, but don't make it bad for both of you. smile.gif I'm sure that michael doesn't want to graduate with a criminal record isn't it?
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post Sep 24 2007, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Sep 23 2007, 03:47 AM)
Mind you, it's for the benefit of everyone and the responsibility of a seller.
What if the supplier ran away?....than what is the next course of actions?
or for instance, if one is to know that the supplier is cheating...than what?
Report police and wait for the supplier to refund?
The seller is the one dealing with the buyer and not the buyer dealing with the supplier.

You're thinking from the seller's POV and disregard the buyers out there.

My point is still valid because eventually it's still the seller's fault. It's a mistake to admit so when buyer requested for refunds they are entitled it. So seller has to own it and no choice he has to turn to other sources for lending of money.
Even in real business situation you can't brush off by implying that you are doing your best in asking "on-behalf" of the buyer. You still have to pay back first than think of another way to cover your losses.
This is business ethics that should be cultivated since young.

Like I said previously, he did good by following up closely and always update; but that's not enough. Ppl's money are still at stake.
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Well, did i mention that i standing in seller's side? No? Yes?

Ask everyone around here. Did I try to make the situation worse for buyer or seller? I just thinking a logic and safe way to settle this matter.

Speaking of lending money, I don't think michael's buyer want to rush/push TS to lend money from others. It's 10k and I don't think any parents here could afford such. So the other way around is loan shark or so called "legal money lender" and ended up his stories of getting loan from those company appeared in newspaper.

There's sometimes when a dispute need to rush. Etc. 1 to 1 deal. This kind of deal can be rushed since mostly the amount will be around 1k.

For michael. RM5 per day refund is not logic. Better drag your supplier out at one day and have a meeting with the buyer also. I'm sure the case can closed faster than ever. What I most suspect here is where did the money you had gave to supplier to? Gamble?
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post Sep 24 2007, 04:31 PM

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Well, how bout wait for what michael has suggested, 5 days and if not, he can reveal the supplier identity and make a police report + edisi siasat or whatever karpal, karam ship....

Learn your lesson. Take the risk while dealing virtually.

That's the reason why all my hardwares part are mostly bought direct from shop rather than wait my ass till burned out. Hope this will not offend those bulker, but the facts is there. A risk.
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post Sep 25 2007, 02:01 AM

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Dear all,

I already advised to michael what he should do and sooner, he will come up with a proper answer. Hope that he can done that within these 2 days.

smile.gif Cheers.
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QUOTE(hermitage hemitate @ Sep 25 2007, 04:04 PM)
TS, why don't you show up who  your current supplier. I am sympathize with my friend, Prince of Andalus. You've take approximately 2 months and suddenly came out with ridiculous solution. You might want to hide your supplier for your own sake, meanwhile you already lose your reputation in here. Which means, no more business for you.Sorry,no offense. Just my 2 cents. wacko.gif  wacko.gif
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Please do read before posting. I understand you sympathize with your friend. smile.gif
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post Sep 27 2007, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(jumpman23 @ Sep 26 2007, 10:45 PM)
WHAT HAPPEN TO THE 10k MONEY HE RECEIVED????
Y 3k only after 2months holding the money? did u ask him wat he did with the money??
Imagining giving away rm555 to sum stranger n wait for him to pay back to u for 2months ++  ... How can anyone accept dat? How do u feel MICHAEL? come on.. Take this Bulk seriously with ur supplier..
i mean really really serious.. dont kid urself. n pls explain asap coz this 3k isnt good and yet he has 7k to find the money n deal this friday..
n u shud know, THIS IS FINAL OK... FRIDAY IS THE LAST DAY!
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Please bro, you are showing the other side of you. Online transaction per time max is 3k only. sigh sleep.gif (I'm speechless shakehead.gif )

P/S : michael, Refund this fella first lar. Kinda boring see him whining over here with the caps. For others, please stop pushing michael. You don't see the refund is coming??
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post Oct 2 2007, 11:41 AM

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u might message politely to michael and ask him regarding your refund smile.gif
He might need your account number in order to proceed maybe?

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