Congratulations on your new role!
Upskilling is always a good thing, whether it is to stay with your current role or to move to a new role. But do note, it's always easier to move field at a junior level where companies are more open to take a bet on the hire/train vs moving at a later stage. Python/SQL is also a good skill for Analyst type of roles.

Many reasons! My best guess is they want to keep the job confidential/exclusive (especially if they're from an agency). If the candidate is not interested, why bother sharing the job with them and have them share around within the industry so a competing agency can pick the role up and send their own candidates to the clients. For candidates. it may seem to be a job application process, to an agency recruiter - every job/candidate is business.

When I was a Recruiter in my agency days, I do not share the company/role upfront before I know for sure the candidate is looking for a, say Production Manager in the Automotive/Robotics industry because candidates tend to speculate. Sometimes, these roles are not advertised and are given to me exclusively by my client so there's abit of kiasuness there. So yeah, how I'd do it is - speak to candidates to gauge interest first, and share if only they're open to know more.

This post has been edited by mimikw: Mar 7 2022, 09:38 AM

Ditto on the other reply to this post -


I'm not very familiar with IB scene but I know hiring managers are a BIG YES on internal referrals 99% of the time. If you have someone to vouch for you, you're pretty much set on landing a role. Don't bother with your starting pay too much, focus on the first couple of years, learn and master the trade. When you have experience, competitors will be banging on your door next

For grads, your education background + internship will possibly land you an interview but it all depends on how you impress the interviewer to get that job.

Thank you for providing a balanced perspective. It makes more sense to me now.

1. I hate the questions that require one to justify their Asking salary. Obviously we want higher salary to live better life. Then whne you tell them it's 30% from current salary, thye ask how u come up with 30% it's so annoying

2. I hate the question like ' why should we hire u'. To me the answer is simple, I am good but then thye will ask how do we know that, to me its like hire me and you wil know

3. Perhaps its cos I am older and more jaded, I hv less tolerance for questions like these..

You don't seem to be asking anything in this AMA thread

I don't think you understand their question. They're not asking "why do you want it?". They're asking "why do you deserve it?" or "convince me you have the edge over other applicants"
The question is giving you a chance to present your pitch

Why all headhunter ask so many info but failed to get a new job despite say "not an issue; since you fit most of the job description" ... Every year ask salary this and that but empty hope TT.TT

I currently work as a writer and am earning your run-of-the-mill 4-figure salary monthly. Lately I've been considering the idea of getting a second job to increase my monthly income as I've gotten tired of earning the bare minimum monthly. Two questions.

1) What sort of job allows you great timing/flexibility, whilst still enabling you to earn loads monthly? (Think RM4k - 5k min ~ RM10k - 15k max?) I notice a lot of high paying jobs that gives you freedom are sales-related. But I wonder if there's anything a writer like me can do with great flexibility, without necessarily getting into sales?

2) As someone who wants to go into property to achieve said above, what are your thoughts about being a property agent in these trying times.

Appreciate other 2 cents you might want to part with.

Want to ask, do you normally sign the offer letter with another company before you tender or after you tender?

And let’s say after you sign the offer and your current company counter offers you, how does it work since you already signed the offer with the other company ?

Hi all would like some opinion, info or even first hand experiences with my post below:

Recently my wife received a job offer (Senior Chemist) from a prominent company in malaysia, and after browsing through the offer letter, they are offering 8 days for 1st & 2nd year, 12 days for 3-4 year, and 16 for 6 years above service. But the figures is not what surprised me but what they added with the statement for AL "Such annual leave must be taken at times which is convenient to the company and subject to approval from your supervisor"

the bolded part looks like a red flag for me. I mean can't we even decide when we want to have the bloody leaves?then why provide an AL in the first place

Another interesting part is their working hours and lunch hours. It seems they omitted it from the working hours hence work starts at 8.00-5.45(the 45 min being the lunch break) So far my experiences is you start at X and end at Y (9 hrs including lunch breaks) except for few select industries and roles.

Also if anyone have any input on maternity leave, is there a law or regulation saying paid maternity leave can be only given after x years with the company? I remember the gov announced that the 90 day maternity leave should be kicking in 2021 right? or its still yet to be gazetted in parliament?

My opinion:
Aside from the salary, i think the benefits is very pedantic and stone age, albeit no other benefits were informed during the IV or within the letter.

What do you guys think?

how does a recruiter gets recruited?

This company follow the minimum requirement from employment act. no wrong from the eye of employment act, but this company could be too stingy. Normally, company in market provide 14 days of Annual Leave once joined new company.


Although this is company policy, but also depends/subject to your reporting manager. I think this is normal, because if you join other company and the reporting manager refuse to approve your leave application, you also cannot do anything. Therefore, pray to get a good leader/manager, sometime they will cover you.


No matter how the company wrote the working hours clause, if they didnot give the sufficient rest (at least 30 minutes) after 5 working hours, you can report to Labour office.


To answer your question, the 90 days of Maternity Allowance yet to be gazetted in parliament. This topics have been discussed since Year 2020 till now. Therefore, follow the book (60 days) now. To entitle for the maternity allowance,
(i) she has been employed by the employer at any time in the four months immediately before her confinement; and
(ii) she has been employed by the employer for a period of, or periods amounting in the aggregate to, not less than ninety days during the nine months immediately before her confinement.

Hope my reply helps you~


This post has been edited by Jesse0916: Mar 12 2022, 04:18 PM

To be safe, sign before you tender. If anything goes south before after you tender, no job for you.

Counter-offer means you have to rescind your decision to join the new company. You burn bridges with them (possibly blacklist) and the current company will eventually replace you.

Your euphoria will be short-lived

This post has been edited by UserU: Mar 13 2022, 11:24 AM

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This post has been edited by dattebayo: Mar 13 2022, 11:01 PM

so the calculation goes on this way:

eg I got offered a 10k MYR job which makes it 120k annually

20% comm - 24k MYR

so recruiter take 10% cut from the comm of 24k -- rm2.4k??

I know that the commission are paid in phases until the candidate has passed probation, is it true?

what happens if the candidate resigns or couldn't pass probation? agency can't receive full commission then?

This post has been edited by dattebayo: Mar 13 2022, 11:01 PM

hi thanks it did help a lot.

just another question, how about the gazetted public holidays? i know not everyone can enjoy them but i believe there is mechanism for working on these holidays within the labour law that companies follow. I just cant recall the exact details of it. I know that 5 are mandatory, and 6 are optionals to make it total 11 days. So if were to work on those day for example CNY day 1, does the worker entitled for double pay/replacement holidays?

On the labour law itself, how about us professionals whom clearly not covered under the law goes by? Since companies will apply the minimum of it to us but when we have dispute the law doesn't apply/protect us?

This post has been edited by mhyug: Mar 15 2022, 12:36 PM

Hi, yes your calculation is correct. The average/target billing per recruiter is RM50K a month (back at my agency) so about 5K commission but I hit 80- 100K pretty consistently so commission can be pretty solid. We get it upfront (bigger agencies).
If the candidate resigns/didn't pass probation, the client will still have to pay for the fee but they will get a free replacement candidate within the guarantee period (usually 3-6months) - we never sign 6 months though

AGREE with the other reply to this post. Always sign before you tender. Nothing is set in stone until you SEE and SIGN an actual employment contract.

And never accept a counter offer, it's not very ethical honestly

Recruiters (at least the better ones) love getting as much details possible to ensure the right role fit for you/client. Imagine a real estate agent who wants to know the buyer's preference on location, budget, size, etc etc etc. the more they know about you, the better they can match your expectation right?

On why they fail to get you a new job - the market is simply very competitive, you can be good but they're many better candidates too in the market. The only way is to skill up, gain better experiences, involve in interesting projects, furnish your CV, do interview preps, do mock interviews, up your game to compete. Only you can help yourself here

There are many jobs out there but all companies are competing for the top 20% of the available talent pool; likewise there are many job seekers out there but everyone is applying to the top 20% available jobs in the market.

This post has been edited by mimikw: Mar 15 2022, 04:33 PM

Hi TS! I'm from Sarawak and am interested to apply for some IT field jobs in KL and eventually relocating to KL. (I got 10 months of work exp only, currently freelancing)

Do you think it's a good idea to put my current address in my resume? Something like "willing to relocate" or it's better not to show it?

Do you think it's possible for someone fresh like me to apply for jobs especially out of state?

Many thanks, sifu!