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SUSDaprind
post Mar 24 2022, 01:08 PM

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Opened an account this morning @9.44AM, got approved @12.10PM same day. That what fast. rclxms.gif
Since my registered bank in KDI is limited to FPX 30k daily transaction, can I use other bank (under my sole name) for the deposit?
SUSDaprind
post Apr 8 2022, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Apr 7 2022, 11:42 PM)
Need to give it few years to see growth. KDI invest choices so far solid. Below RM3k no fees charged so how also you gained.
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Decided to put 1K in KDI Invest. Don't mind to leave it there for couple of years. Hope to see +++ coming...
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post Apr 8 2022, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(lowyat101 @ Apr 8 2022, 11:42 AM)
missed the 11am cut-off and since today is Friday, just to confirm that it will be better to transfer on Monday before 11am right?
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Yes you are right. Even if you put it now, it will only consider Monday as processing time and reflects at 4PM that very same day. Just remember to deposit by Monday before 11AM.
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post Apr 8 2022, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Apr 8 2022, 04:08 PM)
Good expectation and mindset for investment, have a long term horizon. But imagine this, assume yearly 10%, 5 years compounded total return 61.05%

Your investment of 1k will grow to 1.61k, will that additional RM 610 makes any big difference to your life? If yes, go on.

If not, then you should consider set aside a fix amount and invest periodically (weekly best, else monthly), with that you will get a more meaningful amount for your future self.
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Damn such an eye opening thumbsup.gif If I see the market still in red next few weeks, will definitely top-up. Thanks for bringing up the confidence.


QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Apr 8 2022, 04:31 PM)
Ah, what I mean is, KDI Invest don't really offer anything attractive or unique to a person with international brokerage access. But it remains a good alternative to those who aren't willing to DIY.

Currently, KDI Invest's aggressive portfolio consist of ~65% $VT (Vanguard Total World Index) and the rest a mix of BNDX (Aggregate bond), CASH, and a sprinkle of miscellaneous ETF like QQQ and SPY.

Functionally, it's literally just a mix of VT (Total World Equities), BNDX (World Aggregate Bond), and CASH.

Such a simple portfolio can further be simplified by dropping BNDX (young people usually opt to not add Bond to portfolios until latter in investing life, or use EPF/ASNB/SSPN as pseudo bonds).

Thus, its a 1-fund portfolio consist of VT. Most brokerage charge very little commissions (free or 0.35 US cents) on US etfs, and the ongoing charges for holding VT is only 0.07%.

So to grossly simplify it, if VT returns 7% a year - you get 6.93% of the return. You get only 6.3% of the return if investing through KDI. (~10% less). This will greatly affect your compounding - and hurts a lot when market is sideways for a very long time.

Furthermore, VT's non-US alternative, VWRA, only pay 15% withholding tax instead of VT's 30% - that's another 0.5% different in annual returns.

So it doesn't actually take too much capital to quickly outperform KDI Invest or any roboadvisor investing in basically the same thing, but earn more simply you are paying less fees.

TL:DR: fees bad, KDI Invest no offer anything unique
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Okay, basically I was already flying when I saw lovelyuser remarks then suddenly your reply slam me back on the road with fun fact. Technically, it's good to share such information so that we can take every steps into consideration tongue.gif

TBH, I'm still new in this investment thingy. All along, always park my extra in FD which I find very low return these few years (very discouraging 2-2.3% mega_shok.gif ) So no choice has to rely on KDI/ Stashaway until confident enough to DIY.

Any reference for beginner? laugh.gif sweat.gif

 

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