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post Aug 30 2022, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(Afterburner1.0 @ Aug 25 2022, 01:57 PM)
TnG is not even 2.85% lar.... got other misc fees have not been deducted.... after all the deduction is about 2.4% something.... KDi is confirmed net net 3% and with daily interest..... where to get daily interest now?

I do hope KDi Save to up their rates t 3.5% next in Sept..... if not all will run to Bank FD placement alredi... best FD rates now is Affin at 3.3% with mthly interest.
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I cannot even register for KDI right now.
I really do not know what is their strategy. But the thing is, when I register, I am supposed to received a pin in my email. It takes around 2-3 hours before the pin reaches my email, then already cannot register. I highlighted this to CS but they say they know about the issue and cannot do anything about it currently. I mean they cannot even manually register for me wow. So i am wonder, their "biz" too good already so they currently do not want new customer is it?

You calculated, is it really 2.4%? Hai Ya, I really thought it is going to be around 2.7-2.8% after deduction. We are taking the "risk" to put in there you know.

No choice lah. I have to put into TnG right now. Actually main money still put into FD but for this one or TNG at least can take out anytime if you know what i mean.

Affin does not give monthly interest and you have to put in 50k to qualify for that interest rate which really sux. I mean as invika customer I should qualify for this interest rate as long as I put in at least 10k right?
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post Aug 30 2022, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(Wolves @ Aug 23 2022, 08:12 PM)
Actually i think they should revise during next interest rate announcement (probably september) coz if TnG can reach 2.85% "now", they will increase to beat kdi save 3% (promotion) by next interest rate increase. If that is the case the promotion is no longer a promotion rate -.-"

Come on kdi, you should beat the rest of your competitor tongue.gif if they can beat asm 2 (8 more days to announce) and asm 3 (end of next month announcement) rate then they will gain a lot of money :x
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That 2.85 is not guranteed.

It's still promo rate right now as you can withdraw anytime.

How would they gain if they are paying more then the current interest rates right now.

If you want to put a large amount of money, you should just put in bank right now. KDI is more for putting money that is supposed to be for a "rainy" day if you know what i mean.


That means money that I might need in say 1-2 days.

Or if you are waiting for the next interest rate hike.


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post Aug 30 2022, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 24 2022, 11:41 PM)
No harm wishing for above 3%, KDI may have gathered alot of money from depositors
but gained alot of money as in  profits, i doubt . more like an attraction to pull crowds at the start only
but i wish a i am wrong and KDI save continues to do it next year, my  No 1 Money Market choice.
Wah RM10-15 Millon  for a white elephant, true or not?
this is private entity not gomen GLC la.

Takkan the MD didnt do his due deligence, checking ,survey etc....
Somemore he said they are very conservative and
it will be massively lucrative,
yet  you think it will be a flop outright..


A new superapp providing  low fees is  good enough,
no need totally free robin hood la.
i think it will work.

What makes you think the rich prefer to use RMs?
Main reason is convenience and access to certain products, take away these 2
I would say with superapp if  you can do everything yourself, RM redundant liao.
the way forward, more efficient and low cost
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RM are there just to sell you their stupid banking products that's all.
Trust me, most of them really are just there to earn your commission that's all.

Unless you are worth 10s of millions of dollars and you put money into goldman sachs or something.

But if you do not buy their stupid banking product, the RM dun even want to bother interacting with you or helping you.
That guy obviously dunno what he is talking about. Most people working in the finance sector really are almost useless unless they are really working in the inside. I am referring to the guy you just replied to.

But they think they are "smart" just because they know certain terms.

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post Aug 30 2022, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Aug 24 2022, 09:10 PM)
Yet they cannot even handle their registration system for more then 2 months.

Maybe they dun want new customers and this is their strategy.

But why they cannot just say they are not accepting new customers at the moment? Or that new customers cannot use KDI save,
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post Aug 30 2022, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Wolves @ Aug 30 2022, 11:13 PM)
I registered around 4 weeks ago. At first i have the same pin issue but after keep trying for a few times.. i think 3 times.. i changes the time to 12.30am (midnight) coz i figured less congestion and it works. You can try midnight if you want to give it a try.

I also help another person register the next morning (sat) and after keep clicking for around 5 times it also works. You just need to keep trying in a row for it to work. Its "clunky" i admit but i managed to register two account by persisting (me one and sometime else one)
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Thx for letting me know. But this promo until end of the year. Hai
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post Aug 30 2022, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Wolves @ Aug 30 2022, 11:20 PM)
End of year is still end of year. I think i registered august 2nd. I count 4 months. But the amount i put in it will equal maybank savings account 1 year interest times 3 (that time) so still worth it. After that i did another top up and just this month (almost 30 days) i already have 2x maybank savings yearly interest. I got my maybank yearly interest in June so i know. Try it. You won't regret it tongue.gif it's my back up money i put in maybank anyway.
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Maybank interest damn low. But the 6 months 2.8 is attractive though.
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post Aug 31 2022, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 31 2022, 01:12 AM)
Do you have RMs? My RMs are ok, they  offer me their products, i say no, they wont  kacau me.
I say ok, they send me details and i bought, they happy me happy.

Cant say they only sell stupid products , who so stupid wanna buy?
Recently i bought the CIMB CIRA coupon rate 5.5% , paid 3 monthly
Bank Islam Bonds 5.16% , paid 6 monthly
Without RMs how to buy?

But i agree with you Ramjade sapu that MD without giving him face at all.
Are you sure FD rate is almost always lower than MMF??
takda logik la Bro.

FD tie your money down , to get  good rate must  tie longer , withdraw kena cut back no interest.
MMF can withdraw any working day ,no penalty, especially pay daily interest type

So how can FD  pay lower than MMF, everyone run to MMF lo like that.

as per my records, my FDs are always higher than MMF(PMMF, SA, Versa), KDI included.
Note KDI is not you usual MMF, and i doubt next year can maintain same 3%

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Maybe not stupid products. But generally they get pretty high commission selling you those products. So you are not even paying the market price for those products unless you really know the RM well. Otherwise they are just looking out for their own interest. Well, I am pretty sure you pay less fees buying those products in fund supermarket or something.

Obviously I have one. That is why I know their motivation. In fact I got burned because of 1 before. Let's just say they want to earn money from you without being responsible.

In fact that one recommended a bond from an oil company just when there was an oil crisis.

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post Aug 31 2022, 02:31 PM

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Actually just 1 more qtn. So if say I put in 3000 Then because of kdi my investment is say 3001. The 3% is going to be 3001 right?
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post Aug 31 2022, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Aug 31 2022, 11:48 AM)
Seems like you guys are right, I was not aware of those FD promotions... also I am not into FD apart from setting it auto-renewing 2-3 months as my emergency fund.

Before 2022 this definitely wasn't the case, I guess banks are anticipating OPR hikes and trying to boost CASA deposits. In this case, if they are right, we depositors may not be winning by taking up their offers.
Oh yeah, I havent used tng app for a long time and didn't realize they have more products now.
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You probably say this because you got caught flat footed on the FD rates. Sometimes it is better to admit you have made a mistake by not putting your monies into FD.

In the end, it's up to you. Yes there might be a rate hike but will banks increase their promo rates inline with the rate hikes.

Or putting your money into a one year FD now may be more profitable then 3 months in spite of the rate hikes.

I think rates are high enough for there not to be not a substantial increase even if there is a rate hike
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post Aug 31 2022, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Aug 31 2022, 11:48 AM)
Seems like you guys are right, I was not aware of those FD promotions... also I am not into FD apart from setting it auto-renewing 2-3 months as my emergency fund.

Before 2022 this definitely wasn't the case, I guess banks are anticipating OPR hikes and trying to boost CASA deposits. In this case, if they are right, we depositors may not be winning by taking up their offers.
Oh yeah, I havent used tng app for a long time and didn't realize they have more products now.
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Arrrrr promo rates has been around for a long time. Who are you trying to kid?

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post Aug 31 2022, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 31 2022, 04:33 PM)
Bro, i  tell you, your FD is almost always lower than MMF.   is untenable lah,
no matter how you twist and turn.

First you said you are not aware , then you said you are not into FD.......ini macam pun boleh?

Worse you said "BEFORE 2022 this definitely wasnt the case," meaning  what? You still wanna insist you are right in saying  FD is almost always lower than MMF. ?

I am surprise you got time digging out some lowest FD rates in town no time go find out the truth.

see , you cant pull wools over people's eyes lah.

Takda logik lah telling  people MMF pays higher rates than FDs!
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Win win situation i am ok,i make what i want, let the RM earn hers. but my RMs are good, can see they are not that type who simply wanna bulldoze through thinking we are stupid .....

u bought a bond and it turned bad? Which one is that? small loss or big?
So far all my bonds are good. I only had 1 bad structured FRNID product, wasting time  in 3 yrs!

buying from FSM not cheaper for me long term player, got annual fees etc.
Bank charges  upfront fee once,  got benefits rewards, can book, wanna sell easy.
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I dun want to talk about this
I was with uob btw

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post Aug 31 2022, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 31 2022, 04:33 PM)
Bro, i  tell you, your FD is almost always lower than MMF.   is untenable lah,
no matter how you twist and turn.

First you said you are not aware , then you said you are not into FD.......ini macam pun boleh?

Worse you said "BEFORE 2022 this definitely wasnt the case," meaning  what? You still wanna insist you are right in saying  FD is almost always lower than MMF. ?

I am surprise you got time digging out some lowest FD rates in town no time go find out the truth.

see , you cant pull wools over people's eyes lah.

Takda logik lah telling  people MMF pays higher rates than FDs!
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Win win situation i am ok,i make what i want, let the RM earn hers. but my RMs are good, can see they are not that type who simply wanna bulldoze through thinking we are stupid .....

u bought a bond and it turned bad? Which one is that? small loss or big?
So far all my bonds are good. I only had 1 bad structured FRNID product, wasting time  in 3 yrs!

buying from FSM not cheaper for me long term player, got annual fees etc.
Bank charges  upfront fee once,  got benefits rewards, can book, wanna sell easy.
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Let's just say it's a win win situation till something goes wrong.

And I am pretty sure the bank will just wash their hands from the situation. Maybe Malaysia banks are more ethical.

Normally bonds are raised when no banks want to lend the borrower money. So it's pretty risky. It's not as safe as what ppl think unless it's sovereign bonds.

It's pretty funny why no banks want to lend bank Islam any money. Why would they go the more expensive route of borrowing from the public.

Shares are even safer then bonds. Bonds are unsecure loans and will not be treated as important when something happens.
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post Aug 31 2022, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 31 2022, 04:33 PM)
Bro, i  tell you, your FD is almost always lower than MMF.   is untenable lah,
no matter how you twist and turn.

First you said you are not aware , then you said you are not into FD.......ini macam pun boleh?

Worse you said "BEFORE 2022 this definitely wasnt the case," meaning  what? You still wanna insist you are right in saying  FD is almost always lower than MMF. ?

I am surprise you got time digging out some lowest FD rates in town no time go find out the truth.

see , you cant pull wools over people's eyes lah.

Takda logik lah telling  people MMF pays higher rates than FDs!
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Win win situation i am ok,i make what i want, let the RM earn hers. but my RMs are good, can see they are not that type who simply wanna bulldoze through thinking we are stupid .....

u bought a bond and it turned bad? Which one is that? small loss or big?
So far all my bonds are good. I only had 1 bad structured FRNID product, wasting time  in 3 yrs!

buying from FSM not cheaper for me long term player, got annual fees etc.
Bank charges  upfront fee once,  got benefits rewards, can book, wanna sell easy.
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That guy you talk to is the typical narc type.

Even when wrong he still want to insist he is right.
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post Aug 31 2022, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 31 2022, 06:58 PM)
not fight but to put straight a half truth from a FD greenhorn.
looks good on paper that is what MMF wants you to believe.
no use, which one gives higher return is what matters,
same like FD bundles etc only meant to trap the uninitiated.
i replied you before.

Bonds or share safer depends on how to see them.
I have shares as well but  they dont really make money for me.
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I forgotten but this is my impression of bonds.

A very safe bond probably has interest rates very close to FD rates anyway.

Shares will always get preference to bonds when something happens as the directors etc normally hold stocks and bonds are unsecured loan. So secured loans and stocks will always get priority

Contrary to what ppl thinks, bonds will be the first to be "let" go when something goes wrong.

I understand that bank Islam may not be allowed to raise funds using FD. But then how about borrowing from other banks? I dunno.

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post Aug 31 2022, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 31 2022, 07:36 PM)
i buy bonds as i find them safer/less chance of losing,  compared to shares,
even unsecured bonds rank higher than common shares or stocks
so if Co bankrupts i may still get something back
shareholders usually get nothing
enough of OTs here.
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Believe me.
The priority for bonds is the last.
That's why they are called unsecured loans.

You think which one will get priority. Secured or unsecured loans?

That's why only when something happen and you realize that even the bank you bought the bonds from will not help you that you will start to realize.

But it's ok.

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post Aug 31 2022, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 31 2022, 08:36 PM)
Actually bond holders can get money back if company bankrupt. Not all. But some. Shareholders usually don't get anything back. Bonds > stocks in terms of seniority. Bond holders get first dig into the money and last will be shareholders. Of course if company cannot pay bond holders anything then yes it's possible for bond holders not to get anything at all.

Of course banks will not help as they are there to sell you stuff. After sell to you it's your problem already.
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Actually the company can still function despite defaulting

Why should the companies pay anything to the share holders in the first place.

Bonds are the last in priority when it comes to debt. A lot of the debts that are held are secured loans and perhaps loans to other entity. You are dreaming if you think the company will pay your bond first before those.

I never ever said anything about shareholders getting paid anything.

But at least when you buy shares, you can buy shares of companies with good financial standing.

With bonds, you are dealing with companies whereby even the banks are not financing them.

But it's ok. Your probably dun even know what you are talking about.

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post Sep 8 2022, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Sep 8 2022, 06:16 PM)
let see if they gonna up, with OPR up other MMF gonna be 3, KDI no longers appealing, they could expect huge capital outflow if dont up soon
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Kdi is probably higher then most mmf even after the opr increase
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post Sep 10 2022, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(genesic @ Sep 10 2022, 10:52 PM)
versa have catch up with 3.2% until year end.
first RM30,000 in your Versa Cash account and it is open to all new and existing Versa Cash users

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Yeah looking at this.
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post Sep 10 2022, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(genesic @ Sep 10 2022, 11:16 PM)
well, if you have additional money, can consider Versa.
but transferring KDI to versa is seems not worthy for the 30k cause they done calculation, you will get extra Rm20 by year end. Rm5/ month extra.
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I cannot even open an account with kdi at the moment.

The otp takes more then 5 mins to reach my email.
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post Sep 12 2022, 03:32 AM

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QUOTE(genesic @ Sep 10 2022, 11:16 PM)
well, if you have additional money, can consider Versa.
but transferring KDI to versa is seems not worthy for the 30k cause they done calculation, you will get extra Rm20 by year end. Rm5/ month extra.
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Curious. I can take out the money anytime and this 3.2 applies right?
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When will I receive my earnings from the campaign?

Your returns from this campaign will be credited to your Versa Cash account the following month, on a monthly basis.

Example: Your earnings from the promotional net return rate for the month of September, will only be credited into your Versa Cash account in October.
So I can take out money anytime but profit is only next month right?

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