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TSRoman Catholic
post Feb 8 2022, 09:14 PM, updated 4y ago

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Hi y'all,

Are there any methods to remind elderly drivers to turn off the Eco-Idle function everytime after they have started the car ?

I know that there are modifications available in the market, which will turn off the Eco-Idle function automatically everytime after starting the vehicle, however I am not keen on such modifications or rather the elderly drivers are not keen on such modifications as they prefer to keep everything stock.

If you have any easy method which can remind the elderly to turn off the Eco-Idle function, I would love to hear from you.

All I can think of now is sticking a Post-It-Note on their dash but that just ruins the design and it is not really professional also.

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post Feb 8 2022, 09:17 PM

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Just curious why need to turn off?
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post Feb 8 2022, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(jetblast @ Feb 8 2022, 09:17 PM)
Just curious why need to turn off?
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because when you stopped for a longer time such as traffic light or at junction, the engine will "switch off". When you press the accelerator, it will start the engine.
To me this is dangerous as this causes delay which might cause accidents.
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post Feb 8 2022, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(wchinwai @ Feb 8 2022, 09:25 PM)
because when you stopped for a longer time such as traffic light or at junction, the engine will "switch off". When you press the accelerator, it will start the engine.
To me this is dangerous as this causes delay which might cause accidents.
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I'm wondering - isnt it pretty much instantaneous? Have there been cases of more accidents due to one using an eco-idle engine turned on out of curiousity?
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post Feb 8 2022, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(jetblast @ Feb 8 2022, 09:17 PM)
Just curious why need to turn off?
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Retirees are trying to save on expenses by using as little resources as possible.

Turning off the Eco-Idle function will allow their battery to last much longer than if the function was turned on.

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post Feb 8 2022, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Feb 8 2022, 09:26 PM)
I'm wondering - isnt it pretty much instantaneous? Have there been cases of more accidents due to one using an eco-idle engine turned on out of curiousity?
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no sure about other cars but my MYVI has it....there is definately delay about 1-2 seconds before your car start to move vs eco-idle turned off.
When crossing, we want to move as soon as we step on the gas...not 1-2 seconds delay.
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post Feb 8 2022, 09:32 PM

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teach them free gear. he wont activates
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QUOTE(wchinwai @ Feb 8 2022, 09:31 PM)
no sure about other cars but my MYVI has it....there is definately delay about 1-2 seconds before your car start to move vs eco-idle turned off.
When crossing, we want to move as soon as we step on the gas...not 1-2 seconds delay.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 8 2022, 09:29 PM)
Retirees are trying to save on expenses by using as little resources as possible.

Turning off the Eco-Idle function will allow their battery to last much longer than if the function was turned on.
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actually in long run, might cost more because engine restart more often. Imagine at every traffic or junction stops, the engine need to restart everytime if the eco-idle kicks in.
thats what i think...

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Feb 8 2022, 09:26 PM)
I'm wondering - isnt it pretty much instantaneous? Have there been cases of more accidents due to one using an eco-idle engine turned on out of curiousity?
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not instant bro. we local car r slowests
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QUOTE(wchinwai @ Feb 8 2022, 09:33 PM)
actually in long run, might cost more because engine restart more often. Imagine at every traffic or junction stops, the engine need to restart everytime if the eco-idle kicks in.
thats what i think...
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post Feb 8 2022, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(wchinwai @ Feb 8 2022, 09:25 PM)
because when you stopped for a longer time such as traffic light or at junction, the engine will "switch off". When you press the accelerator, it will start the engine.
To me this is dangerous as this causes delay which might cause accidents.
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I've been using Eco-Idle since I bought my car. The delay is negligible for automatic transmission. If you say the delay can cause accident, that means your judgement of safety to cross the junction is off. Those who have the mindset of "sempat lagi ni", will have this risk. If you are a defensive driver and always make sure the road is clear to cross, you won't have this issue to worry about.


QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 8 2022, 09:29 PM)
Retirees are trying to save on expenses by using as little resources as possible.
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Eco-Idle help to save fuel. TS want to turn it off.
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QUOTE(wchinwai @ Feb 8 2022, 09:31 PM)
no sure about other cars but my MYVI has it....there is definately delay about 1-2 seconds before your car start to move vs eco-idle turned off.
When crossing, we want to move as soon as we step on the gas...not 1-2 seconds delay.
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ah i see. sorry mine old car dun have such tech so didnt know its that bad for local cars..does sound in long run might do more harm than good to the car engine keep restarting like that..
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 8 2022, 09:29 PM)
Retirees are trying to save on expenses by using as little resources as possible.

Turning off the Eco-Idle function will allow their battery to last much longer than if the function was turned on.
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bateri life not much. fuel saved not much
unless we dikit-dikit lama jadi bukit
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Feb 8 2022, 09:36 PM)
I've been using Eco-Idle since I bought my car. The delay is negligible for automatic transmission. If you say the delay can cause accident, that means your judgement of safety to cross the junction is off. Those who have the mindset of "sempat lagi ni", will have this risk. If you are a defensive driver and always make sure the road is clear to cross, you won't have this issue to worry about.
Eco-Idle help to save fuel. TS want to turn it off.
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local car or foreign? Seems like local one the delay is 1-2 seconds and its bad...i wonder how much fuel can that save (what you see) vs how much damage on the car engine/battery (what you dont see that easily)?
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QUOTE(wchinwai @ Feb 8 2022, 09:33 PM)
actually in long run, might cost more because engine restart more often. Imagine at every traffic or junction stops, the engine need to restart everytime if the eco-idle kicks in.
thats what i think...
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Very true.

The 1st thing that will go is probably the Starter Motor, unless of course the Starter Motor for vehicle with Eco-Idle function has been designed for a much higher number of starts compared to previous generation of Myvi.
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Feb 8 2022, 09:36 PM)
ah i see. sorry mine old car dun have such tech so didnt know its that bad for local cars..does sound in long run might do more harm than good to the car engine keep restarting like that..
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we have specialize batt, ecu to determine. sofar ok
long run dunno yets.
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Feb 8 2022, 09:36 PM)
Eco-Idle help to save fuel. TS want to turn it off.
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he is ts. so haha
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post Feb 8 2022, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 8 2022, 09:37 PM)
bateri life not much. fuel saved not much
unless we dikit-dikit lama jadi bukit
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Nah I have done some calculations and it is a substantial difference actually by a difference of 21.05%.

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post Feb 8 2022, 09:42 PM

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this topic got me interested.

https://www.wapcar.my/news/faq-is-auto-star...r-your-car-3672

Q: Is it bad for the battery?
A: Yes. That’s why cars with auto start-stop have special batteries.


Q: Will it wear out the starter?
A: Yes. That’s why cars with auto start-stop have starter motors with improved design.


Q: Is it bad for the engine?
A: Yes. That’s why auto start-stop engines need better bearings and better lubricant distribution to withstand the added stress.


5. How much fuel can you save with the auto start-stop feature?
If we take instantaneous fuel consumption, then you get 100% savings when stationary since the engine is off.


6. Should you just turn the auto start-stop feature off?
For a smoother and less annoying ride, YES. Auto start-stop features can be jerky and unpleasant in entry level cars (mine's myvi...so its considered entry level tongue.gif)


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