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post Jan 29 2022, 03:32 PM

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post Jan 29 2022, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Jan 29 2022, 02:45 PM)
W211 facelift no SBC liao, final edition E230 and E280 are very nice to own
I hate him, so whatever opinion he has is invalid.
E300 pre facelift or the diesel one?
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211 fl ada abr, but the dreaded camshaft gear issue still there.
230 and 280 i believe u meant the m272 v6?
Ecu kong and the 722.9 tcu also kong.

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post Jan 29 2022, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jan 29 2022, 03:22 PM)
But that’s the way most all racing cars and rwd are set up. Bmw inline 6 and even Honda s2000 also mounted like that. And weight distribution shifts to the back  under acceleration anyway.
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Audi engine layout is ahead of the the front axle
S2000 and BMW 6s are effectively front mid engine because the engines are behind or on top of the front axle.
If Audi and BMW layout the same why Audi no claim 50/50 weight distribution like bmw?
Audi nose heavy engine layout is under steer city all day unless you jam brake, then car can snap from under steer to oversteer.
Haha

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post Jan 29 2022, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Jan 29 2022, 02:45 PM)
W211 facelift no SBC liao, final edition E230 and E280 are very nice to own
I hate him, so whatever opinion he has is invalid.
E300 pre facelift or the diesel one?
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2011 pre facelift. i forgot to mention the rooftop is leaking. when its raining, water leaks to the inside.

be mind, this is my father's second conti liao.
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post Jan 29 2022, 04:42 PM

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Big no to MB hybrids.

Battery replacement issue, have to get extended warranty.
Has poor resale value, worse if no extended warranty
Battery weight = extra wear and tear on suspension, harder on tyres.
A lot of electronics = a lot of expensive things that can go wrong in a hot and humid country, especially with batteries that need cooling. Heat and humidity will mess up a lot of other stuff, like air suspension and anything w rubber seals and gaskets.

Conti cars in general, hybrid and non-hybrid, over 6 years old are a ticking time bomb. Engine/gearbox overhaul, AC system, suspension bushes, struts and steering rack, engine cooling pump, rad and hoses, all sorts of electronic control units and modules, start-stop small battery, and the dreaded sticky plastic door handle curse.

If you can afford, buy a newer petrol conti, with plenty warranty left - downsize if you have to, a 3er or C with a smaller petrol engine. Otherwise go get a Japanese car.

Of course, if you can throw money at problems to solve them, go ahead.
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post Jan 29 2022, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Jan 29 2022, 01:08 PM)
I'm currently deciding between the E300 Bluetec and the E400 of the same generation.

Any user feedbacks?

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E400

no brainer

3.0L V6 twin tebu
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post Jan 29 2022, 04:47 PM

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Buying new? Yes . U need the warranty.
Buying used with no warranty hell no
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post Jan 29 2022, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Jan 29 2022, 03:33 PM)
211 fl ada abr, but the dreaded camshaft gear issue still there.
230 and 280 i believe u meant the m272 v6?
Ecu kong and the 722.9 tcu also kong.

😂😂
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722.9 Conductor plate less than RM2k incl workmanship
ECU can buy from Taobao

Just that cam gear issue makes me stay away

QUOTE(superbike @ Jan 29 2022, 03:46 PM)
2011 pre facelift. i forgot to mention the rooftop is leaking. when its raining, water leaks to the inside.

be mind, this is my father's second conti liao.
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No wonder.

QUOTE(RL5959 @ Jan 29 2022, 04:42 PM)
Big no to MB hybrids.

Battery replacement issue, have to get extended warranty.
Has poor resale value, worse if no extended warranty
Battery weight = extra wear and tear on suspension, harder on tyres.
A lot of electronics = a lot of expensive things that can go wrong in a hot and humid country, especially with batteries that need cooling. Heat and humidity will mess up a lot of other stuff, like air suspension and anything w rubber seals and gaskets.

Conti cars in general, hybrid and non-hybrid, over 6 years old are a ticking time bomb. Engine/gearbox overhaul, AC system, suspension bushes, struts and steering rack, engine cooling pump, rad and hoses, all sorts of electronic control units and modules, start-stop small battery,  and the dreaded sticky plastic door handle curse.

If you can afford, buy a newer petrol conti, with plenty warranty left - downsize if you have to, a 3er or C with a smaller petrol engine. Otherwise go get a Japanese car.

Of course, if you can throw money at problems to solve them, go ahead.
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Valid points there. The E300/400 doesn't come with airmatic, so its fine. Gearbox, most likely the conductor plate will fail, turbo hose will bocor, bushes are wear and tear parts so its expected. ABS speed sensor is a common issue with contis, incl VW.

I don't see myself downsizing from my current Camry, 3er or C class is out of the equation. Alternatively, i'm looking at Mark X and GS250 - but they just lack the power that contis can offer

QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Jan 29 2022, 04:43 PM)
E400

no brainer

3.0L V6 twin tebu
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Technically a larger C43 but with 7G-TRONIC, I know but it costs almost twice as more

This post has been edited by ((Xa))0102: Jan 29 2022, 05:37 PM
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post Jan 29 2022, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(RL5959 @ Jan 29 2022, 04:42 PM)
Big no to MB hybrids.

Battery replacement issue, have to get extended warranty.
Has poor resale value, worse if no extended warranty
Battery weight = extra wear and tear on suspension, harder on tyres.
A lot of electronics = a lot of expensive things that can go wrong in a hot and humid country, especially with batteries that need cooling. Heat and humidity will mess up a lot of other stuff, like air suspension and anything w rubber seals and gaskets.

Conti cars in general, hybrid and non-hybrid, over 6 years old are a ticking time bomb. Engine/gearbox overhaul, AC system, suspension bushes, struts and steering rack, engine cooling pump, rad and hoses, all sorts of electronic control units and modules, start-stop small battery,  and the dreaded sticky plastic door handle curse.

If you can afford, buy a newer petrol conti, with plenty warranty left - downsize if you have to, a 3er or C with a smaller petrol engine. Otherwise go get a Japanese car.

Of course, if you can throw money at problems to solve them, go ahead.
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You sounds just like Scotty kilmer
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post Jan 29 2022, 05:44 PM

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isnt there another accompaniment to the battery that also costs a bomb, transistor or ..

whats that called again
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post Jan 29 2022, 06:30 PM

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E400 is a total different league to a E300 blue tech lmao
E400 is a total sleeper with that same twin turbo M276 just like in a w213 E43
Between these definitely the E400 unless you’re looking for a car that saves fuel than it’s the E300

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post Jan 29 2022, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(RL5959 @ Jan 29 2022, 04:42 PM)
Big no to MB hybrids.

Battery replacement issue, have to get extended warranty.
Has poor resale value, worse if no extended warranty
Battery weight = extra wear and tear on suspension, harder on tyres.
A lot of electronics = a lot of expensive things that can go wrong in a hot and humid country, especially with batteries that need cooling. Heat and humidity will mess up a lot of other stuff, like air suspension and anything w rubber seals and gaskets.

Conti cars in general, hybrid and non-hybrid, over 6 years old are a ticking time bomb. Engine/gearbox overhaul, AC system, suspension bushes, struts and steering rack, engine cooling pump, rad and hoses, all sorts of electronic control units and modules, start-stop small battery,  and the dreaded sticky plastic door handle curse.

If you can afford, buy a newer petrol conti, with plenty warranty left - downsize if you have to, a 3er or C with a smaller petrol engine. Otherwise go get a Japanese car.

Of course, if you can throw money at problems to solve them, go ahead.
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There was a reason Merc decided to throw out their overpriced inferior E class hybrids 4 years ago citing "hybrid subsidy quota dah habis" when other brands were still selling their hybrids no problem also kek
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post Jan 29 2022, 06:42 PM

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TS sure a different kind of 'woman'. like cars and knows alot abt car technical stuff
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QUOTE(djtong @ Jan 29 2022, 02:34 PM)
Buying Mercedes in 2022 is just a dumb idea.
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Why? What's wrong with it?

QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 29 2022, 02:36 PM)
that's pretty common on conti cars
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How come?

Weather problem?

Conti not meant for hot weather here?
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post Jan 29 2022, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(RL5959 @ Jan 29 2022, 04:42 PM)
Big no to MB hybrids.

Battery replacement issue, have to get extended warranty.
Has poor resale value, worse if no extended warranty
Battery weight = extra wear and tear on suspension, harder on tyres.
A lot of electronics = a lot of expensive things that can go wrong in a hot and humid country, especially with batteries that need cooling. Heat and humidity will mess up a lot of other stuff, like air suspension and anything w rubber seals and gaskets.

Conti cars in general, hybrid and non-hybrid, over 6 years old are a ticking time bomb. Engine/gearbox overhaul, AC system, suspension bushes, struts and steering rack, engine cooling pump, rad and hoses, all sorts of electronic control units and modules, start-stop small battery,  and the dreaded sticky plastic door handle curse.

If you can afford, buy a newer petrol conti, with plenty warranty left - downsize if you have to, a 3er or C with a smaller petrol engine. Otherwise go get a Japanese car.

Of course, if you can throw money at problems to solve them, go ahead.
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I use to admire BMW 330e.

But seeing all the potential problems not to mention burning my wallet later on, i guess i stick to honda city hybrid i-dcd.

4 years running now. Mileage still 40,000km-ish. Use only for going to work. 24km round trip per day. 10 minutes drive LOL.
For weekends & balik kampung trip, got my wife’s honda BRV.

Touch wood going to use for a very long time, even after the 8th year hybrid warranty ends. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(God Grid @ Jan 29 2022, 06:46 PM)
Why? What's wrong with it?
How come?

Weather problem?

Conti not meant for hot weather here?
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it's a conti thing. even ckd conti also suffered the same thing

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Jan 29 2022, 07:44 PM)
I use to admire BMW 330e.

But seeing all the potential problems not to mention burning my wallet later on, i guess i stick to honda city hybrid i-dcd.

4 years running now. Mileage still 40,000km-ish. Use only for going to work. 24km round trip per day. 10 minutes drive LOL.
For weekends & balik kampung trip, got my wife’s honda BRV.

Touch wood going to use for a very long time, even after the 8th year hybrid warranty ends.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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if you are not into good handling car, well, just stick to H and T .
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post Jan 29 2022, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Jan 29 2022, 05:08 PM)
722.9 Conductor plate less than RM2k incl workmanship
ECU can buy from Taobao

Just that cam gear issue makes me stay away
No wonder.
Valid points there. The E300/400 doesn't come with airmatic, so its fine. Gearbox, most likely the conductor plate will fail, turbo hose will bocor, bushes are wear and tear parts so its expected. ABS speed sensor is a common issue with contis, incl VW.

I don't see myself downsizing from my current Camry, 3er or C class is out of the equation. Alternatively, i'm looking at Mark X and GS250 - but they just lack the power that contis can offer
Technically a larger C43 but with 7G-TRONIC, I know but it costs almost twice as more
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yup
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post Jan 29 2022, 08:06 PM

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E400 anytime anyday .

That V6 engine is basically an entry-level AMG engine nowadays.

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