Was having a conversation with a friend who supports Manchester United (I'm a Liverpool supporter), and we got into the topic of Vidic vs Agger.

Both comparatively new to the English game and their respective clubs.

Both plays the same position.

Both doing effectively well on their own level.

Vidic is more of a no-nonsense tough tackling defender.

Agger is more of a technical and creative defender.

So, who is it going to be?

p/s I hope Manchester United and Liverpool fans will be able to participate in this conversation without biasness. It takes a bigger man to admit that a player from your rival team is indeed a better one, if he really is in your own opinion.

Have fun

This post has been edited by blinky: Sep 20 2007, 03:33 AM

You haven't given us your opinion and with your p/s stuff, most people WILL want to be bigger men and answer you. Me? I'd go for Vidic any day. He keeps clean sheets and he scores goals. What more can you ask? He win you games and he makes sure you dont lose

Though I'm a Liverpool supporter, I have to say Vidic. One of the most solid defenders in EPL for the last season.

However, I can see that Agger has plenty of potential left to develop compared to Vidic.

Pool fan will choose Agger while Red Devil fan will say Vidic is better

no one is better.. both got their own advantage and disadvantage..

p/s : agger also scoring goals.. remember a winning goal against chelsea in semi final CL last year? before that thunderbolt just like riise i forgot against which team.

westham i think, I'd say Vidic too...

not being bias here.. but i really think agger is no close match for vidic..
just being straight forward, sorry if i've offended anyone..

match winner against West Ham.
Sweet left foot he has.

I think he is very suitable to play as a cover up for the left back in case the left back push up too far ahead and not in time to track back.

hahahaha i wud say vidic lor .. ,considering his body and all ... and vidic also scores goals .. the last 1 was a match winning agains everton

agger still young i believe when agger at vidic's age he's better than vidic now

Clearly Bramble is better than the both of them put together. Bramble and Boumsong, ahhh...what a dream partnership.

vidic! vidic! vidic!

neither ... terry the best

hell yeah, just like how some pundits said (was it shebby?), they are 20 goals a season defenders

I'd go for Vidic. Solid at the back, aggressive during set pieces, attacks the ball with such gusto and wins crucial headers

Although i hate to admit i think vidic is the better defender at the moment. Agger is slightly smaller build and has less physical present. But in years to come i think agger will b the better player. He has plenty space to improve. Ps. He has a good sweet left foot.

Vidic can score...

It is no comparison. Both have their strengths, Vida is almost a complete Centre Back, Agger? Nuff said.

well bro, chill la, lets the guys have some fun debating la, well thats what forum are for right? in my opinion both doesnt play similarly n have their own strength, depending how u look at it, well i guess both are equally good la.

aha... I forgot... ok guys!!!! argue away.... sorry bro kenzo... hehehe.. busy reading Anwar's expose on the judiciary scandal...

Vidic! Urat dawai tulang besi

This post has been edited by johnjenin: Sep 20 2007, 10:55 AM

after this..got many thread comparing which forwards, midfieders,defenders is the best..erm...kinda useless thread....

this thread present me with a rare opportunity to use this smilies

with Vidic's occasional blunders and Agger's not reaching his true potential yet, i would go for Toure and Terry anytime.

mods, boleh tutup tak? kinda useless ler this thread, no?

it's a waste of time trying to discuss who's better. it's all biased opinions here.

Use players comparison on Football Manager 2007/08 laaaa

victor andrag pawns all....

hah>>>??


to me vidic is better...but u can combine each of their advantages, they will be complete CB!
agger have cun left foot, can shoot like a midfielder/striker,vidic can head without fear, so combine, they are complete !

I tried not to be drawn into this argument but my resistance proved futile. I like both of them for different reasons. Vidic is more straightforward and no nonsense, much like our Carra. Agger on the other hand has a better touch and plays the ball more ala Alan Hansen. Both can score, Vidic with his head and Agger more with his feet. Both have also been prone to errors but with experience, they will only get better. As for who I prefer, I'll go with Agger because I feel he complements the more straight forward Jamie Carragher.

lol!he is the kedah defender rite?

as a liverpool fan...
i go for Vidic too...
he can score goals from conners or freekicks...
he is strong in the air....

his characteristic makes me feel like he is a very good candidate for the movie "300"....SPARTAA !!!!
LOL...

then why u even bother to post then since u got no opinion?




VIDIC! anytime of the day, current performance Vidic outrun agger, but agger too doing very good. vidic's header last epl game is awesome.

yeah man kinda think of it, i think ur right,he really suits, haha

two of them will make a ideal partner at the back..

one with a great header and another one with a good long shot...

both of them still young but Vidic is better than Agger especially his physical and tackle..

BTW i am liverpool fan..Vidic is a good player tat is no-nonsense type..rather than some defender would give a rough comments

this thread need poll.

ya..

but tat make no sense...man.utd fan is majority here

Yeap. Just like how Vidic complements Rio for Man Utd.

Actually there is no fix/default guidelines on deciding who is better? How to consider as better? In what sense? In terms of shooting skill like Agger? Or heading skill during setpiece like Vidic?

How nice if there's a way to merge their ability together

This post has been edited by alien2003: Sep 20 2007, 04:47 PM

i'll go for Vidic... he got the ability in the air , no nonsense , read the game well and score vital goals.

i choose vidic too as same reason with most of u all but agger will make better partnership with carra. I think agger have lots of potential to develop himself into one of the better defender, vidic seem to already reach his limits. anyway, its just my opinion

when it comes 2 defence it is essential to have a partnership. wt a partnership one can cover each other weakness. so it can compliment wt one another. if both player is too similar thn thy will go 4 the same ball tht eventually will lead 2 a mistake. so both player hav their own qualities which will make a good partnership if thy were 2 play together.

If you put Ferdinand on the line with another player, you may get a different answer. But ATM, I would do anything for us to get a Sergio Ramos. We desperately need a top class right back to replace Gary.

useless thread..shut it down..

I agreed with Vidic a better player...for now at least. His aerial ability is good not to mention he scores more goals.

Vidic head + Agger left foot , complete defender

i agree that vidic is a more straight forward and no nonsense player... but i kinda like Agger style of play...

but the bottom line is, defender should be defender and no nonsense is what defenders should be! haha VIDIC!

dont have a poll?

no need poll la sure vidic won the poll since they're a lot of mu fans

agger is a nonsense player?

lorr...just try it out..then we know the actual result..anyway, its just my opinion..

As an arsenal fan, personally I feel Vidic is a better player, but that's because he plays alongside Ferdinand. But I really remember the mistakes he did against 3-0 trashing of AC Milan last season. He played horribly, wrong-time tackles, not marking Kaka & etc. But overall, when he's on top gear, he's good defensively. & not to forget, he's a good header in set-pieces. As for Agger, well, he's still young & can improve. Amazing cracker against West Ham last season. Haha... So, the verdict, both are ok-ok defender. Without Ferdinand or Carragher alongside them, i think they'll stuggle...

kolo toure - pace, strength, influence, bought cheap, etc lol

Daniel Alves would be a more realistic option.

I still like Ramos more. I know we wont get him but I am just saying if I had it my way

no centre defender lives by himself...

so many people worship Kaiser Franz Beckenbauer but dont forget Vogts doing all the dirty work

Hansen is always remembered as the skillful elegant defender but he will thank Lawrenson, the tough robust tackling defender...

At one point, even Pahang has a player called alan davidson...calm cool sweeper, but dont forget how the non nonsense Sellehudin Che ros as his stopper

Soh Chin aun maybe the greatest but how effective is he without Santokh Singh?


Its difficult to say Vidic better or Agger

Vidic complements Rio very well. Agger is developing into a true partner for the straightforward safety first Carragher. .

both are nice player....great quality signing....can't figure out who is the best player since they both play well so far...

This post has been edited by juniortit@n: Sep 20 2007, 11:56 PM

i prefer vidic as he is more aggresive

Correct, just like all the other players who like to play the ball more, like Ronaldinho, Messi, Henry, etc. Wonder what they're doing playing for top sides.

Yeah I do agree with ya there. Ramos is class. I'm still worried who would step up to the plate once Gary's gone. Brown? Nah, not good enuff

westham.
on the other hand...agger n vidic who scores more goals???
I tink agger rite???
as vidic only scores from header and corner only...
though CB is not judged from the amount of goals they scored...

This post has been edited by pandazhun: Sep 21 2007, 08:16 PM

Dun Compare a Mercedes(Vidic) with a Kancil (Agger) here.
Vidic is clearly much betta den agger.
Agger do concede penalty with some stupid tackles,
Sorry if i ofended any liverpool fans here

oh yeah? got proof?
if you're football's professional i might accept ur comment but not from the fans

i support vidic

No offence taken mate. Opinions of retards don't bother me much. Pick up some facts and then come back.

No comment. 50% 50% on both. No need to argue.

This post has been edited by zeist: Sep 21 2007, 11:21 PM

/\ I-D-I-O-T

Let me see, so far this season LFC has conceded 4 penalties against Villa, Chelsea, Pompey & Porto. None of those were Agger's fault. Mercedes & Kancil? Clearly you intended to offend LFC supporters.

This post has been edited by easypeasy: Sep 21 2007, 11:32 PM

Close THREAD~!

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Added on September 21, 2007, 11:43 pmVidic Mercedes?
Wat so special about him btw?
only noe hw to score goals using head???
Only scores goal against Weak Team??
come on..
Agger can score goals using legs...not head...
Agger scored goals against top4 and CL semi-finalist...
Agger pushed Liverpool to CL final..

Did vidic do tat?

haha..

Anyway, MOD pls close thread... i think there will be an outburst sooner or later...


This post has been edited by dream5518: Sep 21 2007, 11:43 PM

hmm..both....kinda same....but...vidic..looks ...tougher...and agger looks...strong...haha...duno..la...both oso...great defender....

I might be biased, but I think Vidic is better. He is stronger and tackles harder, which are the cunning instincts the best defenders should have.

Agger is a good player in his own right. But I do not see him lunge into 50-50 tackles and come away with the ball, leaving the striker lying on the ground.

And Vidic has scored important goals in the Champions League. He scored against Benfica to send United to the knock out stages.

mercedes and kancil ??

If Agger is kancil and Vidic is mercedes

then u are??

This post has been edited by lolz_5167: Sep 22 2007, 12:14 AM

Go suck on an exhaust pipe 10 times and call it daddy.

When it comes to importance, Agger scored the only goal in the 2nd leg of the Champions League semi final.

haha.. looks like leongtat is being 'tat' now.

haha, cant compare ler..both also good players..

both have their own advantages...but i dont think they are like mercedes and kancil...maybe like mercedes and bmw , and kancil is suitable to describe our local player

both of them have their own styles....so it is nothing can be to compare....

no need to compare. pointless. just close this thread

I'd expect fans to be biased to an extent just like myself. It's ok to think one player is better than the other so long as you have reasons to justify your answer. It's posters like "leotard" with nonsensical answers that piss people off.

The answer for the bold statement is \/

Had Agger did not score that equalising goal, perhaps Chelsea have won the Champions League last season & Mourinho is still at Chelsea today.

There are reason why i didn't want to post here, but since everyone already have their rant, here's mine.

Vidic will be the more logical choice at the moment - more matured, composed and with a heck lot more experience. Agger is young and eager, look a lot more elegent and more composed with the ball. I say both have their advantage and disadvantes over each other. The edge is on Vidic's side but for how long thats another story altogether.

This post has been edited by JonC: Sep 22 2007, 09:57 AM

wtf wat are u smokign there? u high ? u sure bout ur staement? omfg. Agger concede stupid tackles? Kancil ? dude wheres ur prof taht vidic is better than agger? wtf

hehe aggers goal brought us to teh finals

You're only as your next game as most of the forum ppl here agree wt. However within the spaces of 6 months anythin can chg in the world of football. Even i'm liverpool fan i have 2 admit tht vidic the better player at the moment. So anythin can chg within the spaces of time. I prefer agger since his has the potential 2 b world class since he is still young. although he need 2 focus on his concentration at times in games n improve on his physical presences.

YNWA

this is the thread where we can see fighting between Pool`s fan and MU`s fan
i think this should be close

There will be a fair degree of biasness but as you can see, some Liverpool fans have admitted that Vidic is at the moment, the better player. I don't see much fighting, do you?

I still think this is a redundant thread tbh
You could create a dozen threads like this comparing one player to another and still wouldn't get anywhere.

Sad but true. Fan-boyism phenomenon will turn something logical into an illogical argument. When one liners starts to populate the thread, ya know its time to close it.

such as compare Lamps with Gerrard
compare Rooney with Torres
i think this is pointless thread

yes it is pointless, baseless, and biased. but at least some of the liverpool fans here do acknowledge vidic is a better player. some manc fans here just cant take the fact if a liverpool player is better than their's.

every player have their own strength . maybe we should ask shebby which one he prefer then..

You don't want us to say such a thing for the sake of it, do you. If I mean it, I'd say it but otherwise, why should anyone say it. There, I would like Reina, Gerrard and Torres in my team but as long as they are in your club, I hope nothing but ill towards them. There, now that I have said it? I get a hug or a kiss? Or would you go on and say "dream on you big fat C (you know the word) on hoping that they'll join your stinking club.

Put a sock into pls. Don't you guys ever get tired with all this crap. Just blardee LOCK the damn thread pls mods.

Well I think this discussion can go somewhere. I mean, hey, come during the World Player of the Year award, we all have our opinions, right? That can lead to a discussion. This can actually work but however, all of us here (myself included) are too lazy to back our talk up with facts, stats or stuff like that. We post "VIDIC PWNS AGGER" and leaves. It's not nothing can come out of this, it's just we are too stupid/lazy to start a real debate on this.

Hey we agreed on something.

they are both defenders and i think its fair to judge them from their defending...erm...n in this department..i think Vidic is better than Agger..Vidic is reliable, strong both on the ground and in the air, brave, a good team player and a no-nonsense tackler....

but bear in mind that Agger is younger and he must go through regular squad rotation...and im a man utd fan btw...

i do believe that Vidic is better than Agger..

first of all Vidic does the job that he is paid for which is defend..for a CB the primary goal is to prevent the opposing team from scoring..and i think Vidic carries out his duty very effectively..

plus..he can score goals with his head from set pieces..

Who bump this thread up again???
This thread should be long gone for good...

vidic is overall a good player..
agger is strong too..
at least both of them did what they should do..

Which is what exactly?