Repairs to flood-hit cars may cost RM40,000, say w
Repairs to flood-hit cars may cost RM40,000, say w
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Dec 24 2021, 08:18 PM, updated 4y ago
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PETALING JAYA: The unexpected floods last weekend have caused irreparable damages to a large number of vehicles and motor workshop owners say they are overwhelmed, with the numbers of vehicles waiting for repairs expected to rise over the next few days. Of greater concern is the estimated high cost of repairs, especially for cars with many electronic systems. Workshops say it may cost anywhere between RM20,000 and RM40,000, depending on the model and extent of damage. UMW Toyota Motor Sdn Bhd body and paint manager Hari Vairavan Nathan said his branch in Shah Alam had checked nearly 50 cars affected by the floods so far. “We are expecting more over the next few weeks as the floods have not subsided in some places,” he told FMT. He said the costs of repairs may come up to between RM20,000 to RM40,000 each, depending on the damage and the vehicle’s model. “Most cars these days are equipped with a lot of electronic components. If they are submerged or contaminated by water, they cannot be serviced. They have to be replaced,” he added. Hari, who has been with Toyota for 12 years, said that if the victims cannot afford to get to a workshop, they can self-check at home by inspecting the air filter and engine oil for any signs of water contamination. To reduce the victims’ burden, Hari said his company would be providing free towing services for all Toyota vehicles affected by the flood. “We are also giving a 25% discount on the total cost of repairs. We will be communicating with banks to provide easy payment plans with zero interest for affected customers,” he added. Hangar 5, a smaller car repair and maintenance shop in Shah Alam, says they cannot afford to give discounts. The workshop is currently charging a base price of RM700 to repair vehicles that were not badly affected by the floods. “But depending on the extent of the damage and the vehicle model, the price can go up to between RM10,000 and RM15,000,” said Hangar 5 co-owner Karthik Palan. “It’s a massive job because we need to dismantle everything if a car has been completely submerged inside muddy waters. A lot of the electrical components won’t work,” he told FMT. Ultimately, both Hari and Karthik advised all vehicle owners to add “special perils” to their vehicle insurance as it covers natural disasters |
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Dec 24 2021, 08:20 PM
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Say w.. what?
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Dec 24 2021, 08:21 PM
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Really Jialat!
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Dec 24 2021, 08:21 PM
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Engine and transmission swaps only cost RM 5-10K at best including labour. (typical Honda cars like City as an example.)
Cuci luar dalam give another 2k can already la. Where got 20k |
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Dec 24 2021, 08:26 PM
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Dec 24 2021, 08:26 PM
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Modern cars are crap to begin with. All like Pampers. Once kaput, throw away.
Better keep a carby car around as backup. At 40K, might as well declare as total loss. This post has been edited by acbc: Dec 24 2021, 08:29 PM |
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Dec 24 2021, 08:30 PM
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Mark up the price, then gip 25% diskon end up paying the actual price. Nampak tak permainan dia?
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Dec 24 2021, 08:37 PM
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Might as well buy a new car
Why bodoh repair This post has been edited by Raddus: Dec 24 2021, 08:38 PM |
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Dec 24 2021, 08:44 PM
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kesian ... those with brand new cars whole thing electronic one
now with chip shortages some more |
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viva/axia people heppi tikam k3vet in cheap cheap. if half cut also kena banjir then they sadding.
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Dec 24 2021, 08:50 PM
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High demand price up up and away.
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Dec 24 2021, 08:53 PM
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40k might as well buy new saga |
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Dec 24 2021, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(pfizer @ Dec 24 2021, 08:18 PM) Ultimately, both Hari and Karthik advised all vehicle owners to add “special perils” to their vehicle insurance as it covers natural disasters This is not a best solution anyway as the coverage limit is very little. I asked my current car insurer during renewal last year, wana add flood cover, found out the limit of cover is only 10% of sum insured or rm10k whichever is lower. So if my car is insured for rm50k, hailatt kena flood, they only pay me rm5k. Tnmcfh rm5ktak cukup to overhaul lah. Anyway, check with your insurers. They might have a different t&c, but I don't think it would differ by much sinnlig liked this post
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Dec 24 2021, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(pfizer @ Dec 24 2021, 08:18 PM) PETALING JAYA: The unexpected floods last weekend have caused irreparable damages to a large number of vehicles and motor workshop owners say they are overwhelmed, with the numbers of vehicles waiting for repairs expected to rise over the next few days. Might as well buy new rm40kOf greater concern is the estimated high cost of repairs, especially for cars with many electronic systems. Workshops say it may cost anywhere between RM20,000 and RM40,000, depending on the model and extent of damage. UMW Toyota Motor Sdn Bhd body and paint manager Hari Vairavan Nathan said his branch in Shah Alam had checked nearly 50 cars affected by the floods so far. “We are expecting more over the next few weeks as the floods have not subsided in some places,” he told FMT. He said the costs of repairs may come up to between RM20,000 to RM40,000 each, depending on the damage and the vehicle’s model. “Most cars these days are equipped with a lot of electronic components. If they are submerged or contaminated by water, they cannot be serviced. They have to be replaced,” he added. Hari, who has been with Toyota for 12 years, said that if the victims cannot afford to get to a workshop, they can self-check at home by inspecting the air filter and engine oil for any signs of water contamination. To reduce the victims’ burden, Hari said his company would be providing free towing services for all Toyota vehicles affected by the flood. “We are also giving a 25% discount on the total cost of repairs. We will be communicating with banks to provide easy payment plans with zero interest for affected customers,” he added. Hangar 5, a smaller car repair and maintenance shop in Shah Alam, says they cannot afford to give discounts. The workshop is currently charging a base price of RM700 to repair vehicles that were not badly affected by the floods. “But depending on the extent of the damage and the vehicle model, the price can go up to between RM10,000 and RM15,000,” said Hangar 5 co-owner Karthik Palan. “It’s a massive job because we need to dismantle everything if a car has been completely submerged inside muddy waters. A lot of the electrical components won’t work,” he told FMT. Ultimately, both Hari and Karthik advised all vehicle owners to add “special perils” to their vehicle insurance as it covers natural disasters |
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Dec 24 2021, 08:59 PM
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lmao profit through the roof
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Dec 24 2021, 08:59 PM
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Dec 24 2021, 09:00 PM
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Expected liao. Especially with the sheer number of cars affected, workshops can afford to pick and choose. You tak suka you boleh cuci sendiri.
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Dec 24 2021, 09:01 PM
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Syukur naik EX5 only.
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Kan ada isinar 10.0
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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Dec 24 2021, 08:21 PM) Engine and transmission swaps only cost RM 5-10K at best including labour. (typical Honda cars like City as an example.) original brand new with warrantyCuci luar dalam give another 2k can already la. Where got 20k not those sold outside that isn't brand new...warranty prolly few months |
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Sell to water fish later.
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used car dealers enjoice
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Dec 24 2021, 09:39 PM
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Pay some bangla to set the car on fire can claim insurance?
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Dec 24 2021, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 24 2021, 09:05 PM) An example: an X70 with remaining 8 years loan. Repair RM20-30k. Ownself write off - how much to lose? This, in addition to the cost of a new car. Next time just buy axia cash Car is just transport Save money invest in watch Stirmling liked this post
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Kan gov dah bagi moratorium, upgrade vellfire alphard la...
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Will those profesional "parts gatherer" receive instruction to looks for parts from the cars in non flooded area around Malaysia?
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X50 or x70 how much do it cost
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Pass by a small workshop yesterday, already can see 2 flooded car there.
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My client renewed all 3 of her car with me every year for the past 5 years
Everytime i send quotation i will include Flood Cover as well, but she always proceed with basic cover+windscreen cover only All 3 cars fully submerged last weekend.. dunno how she gonna deal with it.. |
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Dec 24 2021, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ Dec 24 2021, 10:13 PM) My client renewed all 3 of her car with me every year for the past 5 years Renew car insurance good commission or not?Everytime i send quotation i will include Flood Cover as well, but she always proceed with basic cover+windscreen cover only All 3 cars fully submerged last weekend.. dunno how she gonna deal with it.. |
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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ Dec 24 2021, 10:13 PM) My client renewed all 3 of her car with me every year for the past 5 years Padan muka herEverytime i send quotation i will include Flood Cover as well, but she always proceed with basic cover+windscreen cover only All 3 cars fully submerged last weekend.. dunno how she gonna deal with it.. |
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Dec 24 2021, 10:16 PM
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Dec 24 2021, 10:18 PM
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Dec 24 2021, 10:18 PM
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Unless its fully paid, u can write off la. If remaining loan 50k , you wanna write off ke. Every month pay loan for nothing oh
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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ Dec 24 2021, 10:13 PM) My client renewed all 3 of her car with me every year for the past 5 years Typical tidak apa attitude. I don't bother covering windscreen but I always buy special perils coverage. I can afford to replace windscreen but I don't want to risk having to pay RM20k to repair a flooded car.Everytime i send quotation i will include Flood Cover as well, but she always proceed with basic cover+windscreen cover only All 3 cars fully submerged last weekend.. dunno how she gonna deal with it.. |
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Dec 24 2021, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Dec 24 2021, 08:21 PM) Engine and transmission swaps only cost RM 5-10K at best including labour. (typical Honda cars like City as an example.) If the car mentioned is an older model of the city, maybe you could get a engine and transmission swap for less than rm10k. How about the newer or latest city? Where to get the engine and transmission except buying new which would cost a bomb. Anyway, engine and transmission rarely gets damaged during floods. The damagw would be on the multiple sensors, wiring, ecu, interior, etc which would also cost a lot if brand new.Cuci luar dalam give another 2k can already la. Where got 20k QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ Dec 24 2021, 10:13 PM) My client renewed all 3 of her car with me every year for the past 5 years It's bad dude. The losses will be massive.Everytime i send quotation i will include Flood Cover as well, but she always proceed with basic cover+windscreen cover only All 3 cars fully submerged last weekend.. dunno how she gonna deal with it.. |
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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ Dec 24 2021, 10:13 PM) My client renewed all 3 of her car with me every year for the past 5 years Too bad most Malaysian think that insurance is a scam. They think that they need to claim everything every year then only insurance is worthwhile.Everytime i send quotation i will include Flood Cover as well, but she always proceed with basic cover+windscreen cover only All 3 cars fully submerged last weekend.. dunno how she gonna deal with it.. |
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Fomca has called for insurance companies to aid car owners with no flood coverage. As it is, insurance companies will be coughing lots of money to compensate those who bought flood coverage.
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2021/12/...-flood-coverage » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 24 2021, 10:28 PM) Fomca has called for insurance companies to aid car owners with no flood coverage. As it is, insurance companies will be coughing lots of money to compensate those who bought flood coverage. Smaller insurance company might go bust if they do that. Not to mention motor insurance is already a losing business for most insurers.https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2021/12/...-flood-coverage » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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"Most cars these days are equipped with a lot of electronic components. If they are submerged or contaminated by water, they cannot be serviced. They have to be replaced,” he added.
Good luck to new model car owner... |
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Old school and old thinking is always best. You all will realise this sooner or later. If not already.
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QUOTE “Most cars these days are equipped with a lot of electronic components. If they are submerged or contaminated by water, they cannot be serviced. They have to be replaced,” he added. Since when Service center really service cars? 99% of the time change parts. |
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Dec 24 2021, 11:43 PM) That would be unfair too. The best is to start implementing merit system. More discount for careful driver, more loading for reckless driver. That's where NCD and telemetics come in. What I mean by premium increasing for everyone is like what happened to medical insurance - those who don't claim pun face a rise in premium. |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 24 2021, 11:52 PM) That's where NCD and telemetics come in. What I mean by premium increasing for everyone is like what happened to medical insurance - those who don't claim pun face a rise in premium. I understand what you mean. Hence my response instead of increasing the premium across the board to recover the losses, they should consider punishing people who “cause” the premium to be high at the first place, which are the reckless drivers.This post has been edited by blanket84: Dec 24 2021, 11:55 PM |
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Dec 24 2021, 11:55 PM) I understand what you mean. Hence my response instead of increasing the premium across the board to recover the losses, they should consider punishing people who “cause” the premium to be high at the first place, which are the reckless drivers. Maybe NCB system isn't doing its job. I still hear people saying "aiya, got insurance why don't claim?". |
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20K repair cost must be Camry Hybrid
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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Dec 24 2021, 08:21 PM) Engine and transmission swaps only cost RM 5-10K at best including labour. (typical Honda cars like City as an example.) No point..... I inside Mitsubishi asx group, last night a owner just finish full service and interior cleaning.the car working now, but airbag light, gearbox light stays on... Not sure when other parts will start to fail. Cuci luar dalam give another 2k can already la. Where got 20k Cost so far spend by the owner is rm6k (outside workshop). This also budget budget repair... Not really go deeper into cleaning and checking every Ecu module . This post has been edited by TRAZE99: Dec 25 2021, 12:05 AM |
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Car sales will likely go up 2022 but for the wrong reasons
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better i buy 2 axia e secondhand
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Sell as spare parts and buy new car still cost less than workshop potong.
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expensive component like ecu can be saved but need to be quick, let it sit few days already gone case
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