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 SSD like Adata, Kingston, Crucial, Ok?

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post Jan 11 2023, 01:08 PM

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While I was working on an Aftershock notebook, discovered OEM Samsung SSD doesn't work properly with Samsung Magician.

Similar to how OEM AMD Radeon doesn't work properly with AMD Adrenalin. Sure, can display ... but other features (right now I forget, because I game mostly on APU or discrete (branded) nVidia) ... definitely will stay away from OEM AMD Radeon and OEM Samsung SSD.

QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jun 1 2022, 09:53 AM)
samsung, and only samsung.

get oem samsung ssd at much cheaper price
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This post has been edited by AnimeSinceForever: Jan 12 2023, 05:35 PM
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post Jan 12 2023, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(thxxht @ Dec 24 2021, 12:47 PM)
Crucial mx series is decent
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Up till today, MX is still the one I go to. Last purchase 4 months ago.

That was after checking other brand models price vs capacity.
It's the 5th MX purchased over last few years.
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post Jan 12 2023, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jan 10 2023, 11:00 PM)
I dunno how to check that, last month just buy transcend 230S, 1TB for RM234 on lazada, Just for store game not boot os
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SLC is much more expensive, dlc/mlc is slightly cheaper. tlc is cheapest.

your 1TB 234 is confirm tlc that most end user will buy
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post Jan 12 2023, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Jan 11 2023, 11:56 AM)
Nonsense. This is true a decade ago. Not anymore. Nowadays tlc is reliable and fast enough to be what slc were back then.

Even samsung flagship 990 Pro is TLC.
WD SN850x is TLC
SK Hynix Platinum P41 is TLC

These three are the most powerful (and most expensive) ssd you can buy in market to date.

MLC is now reserved to the highest end of datacenter storage you can't find without a special procurement.

SLC is pretty much nonexistent nowadays. Go find and tell me which ssd model after 2015 that use SLC, if you can find one.
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slc still have its advantage, but lol will people buy slc ssd or not? i doubt ppl want to pay x times price for home use ssd.
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post Jan 12 2023, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(Selectt @ Jan 12 2023, 07:45 PM)
SLC is much more expensive, dlc/mlc is slightly cheaper. tlc is cheapest.

your 1TB 234 is confirm tlc that most end user will buy
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normal price RM350+-, lazada sale got discount until RM234
nevermind la TLC or what, not for boot drive, just secondary drive for storage
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post Jan 12 2023, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jan 12 2023, 08:08 PM)
normal price RM350+-, lazada sale got discount until RM234
nevermind la TLC or what, not for boot drive, just secondary drive for storage
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RM 234 for 1TB is damn cheap already
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post Jan 12 2023, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Selectt @ Jan 12 2023, 07:48 PM)
slc still have its advantage, but lol will people buy slc ssd or not? i doubt ppl want to pay x times price for home use ssd.
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SLC nowadays are rarely produced for consumer and prosumer SSDs anymore, so you can't really get it.
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post Jan 12 2023, 09:49 PM

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Cannot go wrong with crucial mx500.
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post Jan 12 2023, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jan 12 2023, 08:08 PM)
normal price RM350+-, lazada sale got discount until RM234
nevermind la TLC or what, not for boot drive, just secondary drive for storage
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 12 2023, 09:49 PM)
Cannot go wrong with crucial mx500.
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kingston A400 960GB cheapest one RM275
https://shp.ee/scqp6k6

crucial mx500 cheapest one RM 379 for 1TB
https://shp.ee/scnkjc6

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post Jan 12 2023, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 12 2023, 10:12 PM)
kingston A400 960GB cheapest one RM275
https://shp.ee/scqp6k6

crucial mx500 cheapest one RM 379 for 1TB
https://shp.ee/scnkjc6
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Get from US and shipped to Malaysia. You can get during black Friday sales to bring down the cost.
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post Jan 12 2023, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 12 2023, 10:12 PM)
kingston A400 960GB cheapest one RM275
https://shp.ee/scqp6k6

crucial mx500 cheapest one RM 379 for 1TB
https://shp.ee/scnkjc6
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Becareful kingston A400, many people use this SSD sudden controller up cars
Cannot detect by pc, model name become SATAFIRM S11
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post Jan 12 2023, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(Selectt @ Jan 12 2023, 07:48 PM)
slc still have its advantage, but lol will people buy slc ssd or not? i doubt ppl want to pay x times price for home use ssd.
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Slc is all advantage. Everything good about ssd - except it does not exist anymore, and nobody misses it.

All performant consumer and datacenter ssd now made with 3d nand, for example vnand or bics which is tlc or qlc only. The only part in your ssd that use SLC these days is the buffer, like 12gb for 1tb sn850x, and allegedly around 100gb for 990pro 1tb, but even that is just pSLC, which is just MLC/TLC running in single bit mode like SLC.

Even for datacenter use TLC is deemed more than good enough. The latest Samsung PM9xx line is TLC.
Any more performance/reliability demand they have to enter xpoint segment, like kioxia's FL6 which can go like 60 DWPD. (avg high end ssd is around 0.3 DWPD)

MLC is already at the end of phasing out stage. The last ssd that I know that were using MLC was 970pro which were released 5 years ago.

Mainstream mid/low tier drive is all qlc nowadays. But even that is magnitude better than mlc from decade ago. To put into perspective, if we look at this spec from Samsung
https://semiconductor.samsung.com/resources...English_AUS.pdf
2012s MLC 840pro were rated around 150tbw/1tb,
while equivalent 2020s QLC 870qvo is 360tbw while retaining same speed or being slightly faster.

Tldr - 'You should look for SLC/MLC' is not even an argument nowadays unless you are parroting what you have heard 10 years ago - and you won't even find it in the market anymore anyway.

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post Jan 13 2023, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jan 12 2023, 10:34 PM)
Becareful kingston A400, many people use this SSD sudden controller up cars
Cannot detect by pc, model name become SATAFIRM S11
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thanks for the info!

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 12 2023, 10:29 PM)
Get from US and shipped to Malaysia. You can get during black Friday sales to bring down the cost.
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black friday comes once in a year

beside this mx500 at amazon is around $69.99 = rm300 excluding $10.54 shipping cost

I use some discount voucher in shopee also price wise + - still the same
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post Jan 13 2023, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jan 10 2023, 11:00 PM)
I dunno how to check that, last month just buy transcend 230S, 1TB for RM234 on lazada, Just for store game not boot os
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so far your transcend 230S got any well known issue like the A400?
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post Jan 13 2023, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 13 2023, 08:47 AM)
so far your transcend 230S got any well known issue like the A400?
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I not yet saw issue when reading online review
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post Jan 13 2023, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jan 13 2023, 08:50 AM)
I not yet saw issue when reading online review
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thanks for the info. I have one old transcend external hdd and it served me well for the past 10 years +

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post Jan 13 2023, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jan 12 2023, 08:08 PM)
normal price RM350+-, lazada sale got discount until RM234
nevermind la TLC or what, not for boot drive, just secondary drive for storage
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wah can share the link of RM234 ssd? Legit not fake?

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 12 2023, 10:29 PM)
Get from US and shipped to Malaysia. You can get during black Friday sales to bring down the cost.
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Usually how much is the shipping and tax cost if buy from US? And how about the warranty?


QUOTE(PJng @ Jan 12 2023, 10:34 PM)
Becareful kingston A400, many people use this SSD sudden controller up cars
Cannot detect by pc, model name become SATAFIRM S11
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I have one kingston a400, use for 3 years + already I think, Alhamdulillah so far so good. Initially it will have micro stutter, but after applied the patch, no more stutters.
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post Jan 13 2023, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(imin @ Jan 13 2023, 10:18 AM)
wah can share the link of RM234 ssd? Legit not fake?
Usually how much is the shipping and tax cost if buy from US? And how about the warranty?
I have one kingston a400, use for 3 years + already I think, Alhamdulillah so far so good. Initially it will have micro stutter, but after applied the patch, no more stutters.
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Not fake, on sale day, official store
4.90 shipping fee, 237.90-4.90 is 233
Now cannot get the price

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This post has been edited by PJng: Jan 13 2023, 10:28 AM
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post Jan 13 2023, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jan 13 2023, 10:27 AM)
Not fake, on sale day, official store
4.90 shipping fee, 237.90-4.90 is 233
Now cannot get the price

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Wahh. Tq. Hopefully 2/2 will have this price again.
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post Jan 13 2023, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(imin @ Jan 13 2023, 10:18 AM)
Usually how much is the shipping and tax cost if buy from US? And how about the warranty?
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My shipping last time was RM25. Now is RM30. Buyandship.
You should notneed to claim warranty for SSD as it more durable than traditional hard disk.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jan 13 2023, 03:35 PM

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