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post Jul 27 2022, 11:00 PM

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Datuk Goh Hwan Hua is a scammer. i-serve is focusing on the RM180 cash thing and says no such amount of cash was seized. Maybe it was a wording error by BNM, maybe BNM should have worded it better by saying RM180m frozen and some cash seized in the offices.

i-serve agents kept on repeating this tiny tiny tiny details but ignore the big picture, that is Datuk Goh Hwan Hua is running a ponzi scam.

Some old man lost his entire savings and now wants to suicide. Goh dont care, all the agents are partying and enjoying their life. Spending other people's money. Karma will bite them back one day.

myairline is a scam.
i-serve scam
gomart scam
k8xpress scam
season grocer scam.

alll set up as front to show they have a legit business but behind is actually a scam.

QL finally split their FamilyMart into her own category when submiting their financial report to bursa. in the report, Familymart profit margin is around 8%.

Tell me, how can Gomart, k8xpress and Season Grocer has higher profit margin than FamilyMart? If you invest RM500K with Goh's scam and he gives you 30% return per year, this means those shops must make more than 30% per year right? But FamilyMart can only make 8%. Goh beat FamilyMart.

Now start myairline, also promise the same return, when no airline in the world has such high profit margin.

Goh got midas touch, everything he starts makes high profit margin, as high as Apple.
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post Jul 28 2022, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(WongFookMi @ Jul 27 2022, 11:00 PM)
Datuk Goh Hwan Hua is a scammer. i-serve is focusing on the RM180 cash thing and says no such amount of cash was seized. Maybe it was a wording error by BNM, maybe BNM should have worded it better by saying RM180m frozen and some cash seized in the offices.

i-serve agents kept on repeating this tiny tiny tiny details but ignore the big picture, that is Datuk Goh Hwan Hua is running a ponzi scam.

Some old man lost his entire savings and now wants to suicide. Goh dont care, all the agents are partying and enjoying their life. Spending other people's money. Karma will bite them back one day.

myairline is a scam.
i-serve scam
gomart scam
k8xpress scam
season grocer scam.

alll set up as front to show they have a legit business but behind is actually a scam.

QL finally split their FamilyMart into her own category when submiting their financial report to bursa. in the report, Familymart profit margin is around 8%.

Tell me, how can Gomart, k8xpress and Season Grocer has higher profit margin than FamilyMart? If you invest RM500K with Goh's scam and he gives you 30% return per year, this means those shops must make more than 30% per year right? But FamilyMart can only make 8%. Goh beat FamilyMart.

Now start myairline, also promise the same return, when no airline in the world has such high profit margin.

Goh got midas touch, everything he starts makes high profit margin, as high as Apple.
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Thanks you....
At least can see someone rationally and tactically see the whole picture.

Imagine if your relative or your dad/mum invested it. they never can get the money back.
Since so many agent keep saying nothing wrong, but stop victims to file a claim to BNM, SC and Police ??
Why don't let authorities to made investigation to support their statement?


Iserve agent keep "comfort" they would take jurisdiction to challenge BNM, SC and government.
To be frank, how many chance to win?
Ask the lawyer open podcast and public all the evidence they have, if the business is really legitimate in the first place.
Why don't apply license?
If they proof no guilty. i strongly suggest Malaysia govn should give them an award as they have a biz model to beat Warren Buffett.


Just curious, the Myairline talked so loud last time to beat MAS and AA (Capital A)
But i didn't see any sign this airline got offer any tickets ? what is their operation since 8 months passed?
They want to use one plane (instead not own, just hire purchase) to fight with MAS and AA?
It look like they use a ice cream stick to fight with other established full armed soldiers....


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post Jul 28 2022, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Shining star @ Jul 28 2022, 11:25 AM)
Thanks you....
At least can see someone rationally and tactically see the whole picture.

Imagine if your relative or your dad/mum invested it. they never can get the money back.
Since so many agent keep saying nothing wrong, but stop victims to file a claim to BNM, SC and Police ??
Why don't let authorities to made investigation to support their statement?
Iserve agent keep "comfort" they would take jurisdiction to challenge BNM, SC and government.
To be frank, how many chance to win?
Ask the lawyer open podcast and public all the evidence they have, if the business is really legitimate in the first place.
Why don't apply license?
If they proof no guilty. i strongly suggest Malaysia govn should give them an award as they have a biz model to beat Warren Buffett.
Just curious, the Myairline talked so loud last time to beat MAS and AA (Capital A)
But i didn't see any sign this airline got offer any tickets ? what is their operation since 8 months passed?
They want to use one plane (instead not own, just hire purchase) to fight with MAS and AA?
It look like they use a ice cream stick to fight with other established full armed soldiers....
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Just in case you wanna label me as an iserve agent or employee or whatsoever, lemme make it clear first that I am in not any way associated with iserve and its subsidiaries. I wouldn’t say that iserve is innocent, but im not gonna jump straight to the conclusion that both the company and its boss are scammers since bnm is still investigating the company.

It’s kinda interesting to read your replies. You keep claiming that iserve agents are now trying to scam others into investing in its airline, but do you have even a screenshot of the conversation between the said agents and their preys to prove it? Also, you are saying that MANY agents are stopping the victims from reporting to the authorities, but where are the evidences? Or it’s another random claim again?

Meanwhile, I just did a quick search on google and it seems that most of the news about myairline do mention clearly that the airline will be having 2 planes in its fleet. How come you are saying that it’s flying only 1 plane? Also, can you show me the article in which myairline says that it wants to beat AA and MAS? I don’t seem to be able to find any of them on google.

Again, you can save your time going on your witch-hunt calling anybody who doubts you an iserve agent. To me, it’s more like you are having some personal issues with the company and trying to taint its reputation by making baseless claims lol.

This post has been edited by ratloverice: Jul 28 2022, 11:45 AM
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post Jul 28 2022, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(ratloverice @ Jul 28 2022, 11:44 AM)
Just in case you wanna label me as an iserve agent or employee or whatsoever, lemme make it clear first that I am in not any way associated with iserve and its subsidiaries. I wouldn’t say that iserve is innocent, but im not gonna jump straight to the conclusion that both the company and its boss are scammers since bnm is still investigating the company.

It’s kinda interesting to read your replies. You keep claiming that iserve agents are now trying to scam others into investing in its airline, but do you have even a screenshot of the conversation between the said agents and their preys to prove it? Also, you are saying that MANY agents are stopping the victims from reporting to the authorities, but where are the evidences? Or it’s another random claim again?

Meanwhile, I just did a quick search on google and it seems that most of the news about myairline do mention clearly that the airline will be having 2 planes in its fleet. How come you are saying that it’s flying only 1 plane? Also, can you show me the article in which myairline says that it wants to beat AA and MAS? I don’t seem to be able to find any of them on google.

Again, you can save your time going on your witch-hunt calling anybody who doubts you an iserve agent. To me, it’s more like you are having some personal issues with the company and trying to taint its reputation by making baseless claims lol.
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Sorry, i think you have peter pan syndrome.
You don't know what you are talking,,,

I didn't keep saying they are scam. it was other poster opinion.
Even other said they are scam, then ask Iserve to show all the proof, evidence to defence they are not the scam la.
Why you didn't reply why Iserve didn't has License in the 1st place to collect funding?

If they did nothing wrong, why SC, BNM, Police seize the funding of RM 118 Million.
Don't talk to me... talk to the court and show all evidence.

I was not the one to say they compete with MAS and AA. But the news does.
https://themalaysianreserve.com/2022/05/12/...al-airasia-mas/
Your google can't work??

Even Myairlines has 2 plane, then so what?
what their strategy to compete with Air Asia and MAS?
How Iserve or its affilates to get 30 % annual return from an Aviation industry?
that used to be from their K-mart and usual portal.

Again, in stead for someone like me to ask questions.
Then why not you show evidence to the public and court?

Why don't focus the subject and response duely?


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post Jul 28 2022, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Shining star @ Jul 28 2022, 12:48 PM)
Sorry, i think you have peter pan syndrome.
You don't know what you are talking,,,

I didn't keep saying they are scam. it was other poster opinion.
Even other said they are scam, then ask Iserve to show all the proof, evidence to defence they are not the scam la.
Why you didn't reply why Iserve didn't has License in the 1st place to collect funding?

If they did nothing wrong, why SC, BNM, Police seize the funding of RM 118 Million.
Don't talk to me... talk to the court and show all evidence.

I was not the one to say they compete with MAS and AA. But the news does.
https://themalaysianreserve.com/2022/05/12/...al-airasia-mas/
Your google can't work??

Even Myairlines has 2 plane, then so what?
what their strategy to compete with Air Asia and MAS?
How Iserve or its affilates to get 30 % annual return from an Aviation industry?
that used to be from their K-mart and usual portal.

Again, in stead for someone like me to ask questions.
Then why not you show evidence to the public and court?

Why don't focus the subject and response duely?
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Lol it seems that you don't know what you are talking about.

I was talking about your way of acting as if you have seen a lot of iserve agents around without showing any proofs, and now you're trying to divert the topic huh? Let me guess, cuz you were just making random claims?

By showing the article, it simply shows that you are too dumb to understand an article. Where the hell in the article says that MYAIRLINE SAID THEY WANT TO BEAT AA AND MAS? Mind you, you mentioned in your previous reply thay myairline SAID, meaning that the airline's representatives/spokespersons made a statement that they want to beat AA and MAS. But where is it? Did you even read the article or you are just making random claims again? Come on, show me an article where the representatives/spokespersons of myairline saying that they want to beat AA and MAS.

Agan, mana proofs of the said agents trying to stop victims from lodging reports to the authorities? Come on la show them here. Don't keep trying to divert the topic la boy
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post Jul 28 2022, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(ratloverice @ Jul 28 2022, 01:02 PM)
Lol it seems that you don't know what you are talking about.

I was talking about your way of acting as if you have seen a lot of iserve agents around without showing any proofs, and now you're trying to divert the topic huh? Let me guess, cuz you were just making random claims?

By showing the article, it simply shows that you are too dumb to understand an article. Where the hell in the article says that MYAIRLINE SAID THEY WANT TO BEAT AA AND MAS? Mind you, you mentioned in your previous reply thay myairline SAID, meaning that the airline's representatives/spokespersons made a statement that they want to beat AA and MAS. But where is it? Did you even read the article or you are just making random claims again? Come on, show me an article where the representatives/spokespersons of myairline saying that they want to beat AA and MAS.

Agan, mana proofs of the said agents trying to stop victims from lodging reports to the authorities? Come on la show them here. Don't keep trying to divert the topic la boy
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post Jul 28 2022, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Shining star @ Jul 25 2022, 07:27 AM)
Wah? you talk like you are the judge ? or part of the invisible hand in jurisdiction system?
How you know the outcome?

Like all money games, those big bosses might be 'escape'.
The issue is those investor money would be gone. It never go back to their hand anymore..
MBI, Geneva Gold, JJPTR, Richway.......

WHEN they first con into investment, they already should knew the destiny and fate.
If a person invested RM 50k at age 30, any legitimate scheme would pay them at 2-3 % monthly until they die at age 80 or 90 ?
Ask your I-serve boss to register his business model to challenge Warren Buffett la. This is Guinness record with investment with compound interest up to 24%-36% yearly.

And do also unveil all the money in / money out in audited account in court. See who will be more scare.

I will buy pop corn and see what the outcome.
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post Jul 29 2022, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(ratloverice @ Jul 28 2022, 11:44 AM)
Just in case you wanna label me as an iserve agent or employee or whatsoever, lemme make it clear first that I am in not any way associated with iserve and its subsidiaries. I wouldn’t say that iserve is innocent, but im not gonna jump straight to the conclusion that both the company and its boss are scammers since bnm is still investigating the company.

It’s kinda interesting to read your replies. You keep claiming that iserve agents are now trying to scam others into investing in its airline, but do you have even a screenshot of the conversation between the said agents and their preys to prove it? Also, you are saying that MANY agents are stopping the victims from reporting to the authorities, but where are the evidences? Or it’s another random claim again?

Meanwhile, I just did a quick search on google and it seems that most of the news about myairline do mention clearly that the airline will be having 2 planes in its fleet. How come you are saying that it’s flying only 1 plane? Also, can you show me the article in which myairline says that it wants to beat AA and MAS? I don’t seem to be able to find any of them on google.

Again, you can save your time going on your witch-hunt calling anybody who doubts you an iserve agent. To me, it’s more like you are having some personal issues with the company and trying to taint its reputation by making baseless claims lol.
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My relative is an agent, living the good life. I think Dato Goh is still paying the agents.
my relative is now out looking for investor for myairline, same 30% return.
dont ask for screen shots, they will meet up and say got business proposal,
they dont want any evidence, and all those leaflets and brochure, cannot share, no copies given.

as for funding, last time she told me got 'msc' status and some weird law they say can go collect funding from public,
no need license. i told her this is BS to the max and told her we can make an appointment with BNM and meet up with an officer to clarify this, she refuses.
she refuses even I told her I will arrange everything, pick her up and settle everything, outright refuse to meet BNM office in 2018.

and during 2020 covid lockdown, Dato Goh still can pay them, i asked how when no planes are flying,
she told me they trust goh, that is the answer... even tony lose money but goh can sell tickers and make money, sell to whom? ghost?
use logic already know something not right. I got moon rock to sell, anyone wants to buy?


I will type here and say it out loud
Datuk Goh Hwan Hua is a scammer
my full name is Soo Su Mi
Refund all the victims
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post Jul 30 2022, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(WongFookMi @ Jul 29 2022, 09:40 AM)
My relative is an agent, living the good life. I think Dato Goh is still paying the agents.
my relative is now out looking for investor for myairline, same 30% return.
dont ask for screen shots, they will meet up and say got business proposal,
they dont want any evidence, and all those leaflets and brochure, cannot share, no copies given.

as for funding, last time she told me got 'msc' status and some weird law they say can go collect funding from public,
no need license. i told her this is BS to the max and told her we can make an appointment with BNM and meet up with an officer to clarify this, she refuses.
she refuses even I told her I will arrange everything, pick her up and settle everything, outright refuse to meet BNM office in 2018.

and during 2020 covid lockdown, Dato Goh still can pay them, i asked how when no planes are flying,
she told me they trust goh, that is the answer... even tony lose money but goh can sell tickers and make money, sell to whom? ghost?
use logic already know something not right. I got moon rock to sell, anyone wants to buy?
I will type here and say it out loud
Datuk Goh Hwan Hua is a scammer
my full name is Soo Su Mi
Refund all the victims
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post Jul 30 2022, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Shining star @ Jul 30 2022, 04:49 PM)

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For those investors…
Hope below link would help.

A) BNM
BNMTELELINK (Customer Service Call Centre)
Tel: 1-300-88-5465 Fax: 03-2174 1515
Email: bnmtelelink@bnm.gov.my

B) SC
aduan@seccom.com.my;
Facsimile: (603) 6204 8991;

C) RMP
Commercial crime investigation
CCID Infoline via WhatsApp at +6013-211 1222.
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2019...-crime-infoline

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thanks for the above infomation, true or false is based on urself analytics.
i always believe 1 hand cannot clap.........
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post Aug 7 2022, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(sbugeye78 @ Aug 3 2022, 06:27 PM)
thanks for the above infomation, true or false is based on urself analytics.
i always believe 1 hand cannot clap.........
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Somehow agree your statement
One hand can’t clap

For those put in the money,
They didn’t check the company background and consult profession or regulatory departments (SC, BNM) before investment. They only see the ppt or verbal information.

For those agent, they aim to get big commission for all the customer they bring in. They not even care whether these were their friend or relative.
Because it easier to seal the deal if someone has trust on you. This was why when any money game burst, almost whole kampung people die….

One of the way to check
A) buy the subject company SSM and see their audited report.
You can see roughly their business model from the balance sheet and PRofit and loss.
Ofcourse, it may still can’t 100 % confirm whether they are genuine, but at least you can see some hint.
Example: for invest 50k, they paid you 24 % interest annually. If their sales (per investment) and expenses (commission to agent and interest to investor) didn’t tackle these amount, you already knew the answer.
I think LHDN also been conducted the audit apart from BNM, SC. Some past docs can’t be falsified…!




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user posted image

Remember this scammer face. Bald chinese guy.
Dato Goh Hwan Hua is a scammer running a ponzi scheme cheating people's money via myairline now.


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unker verdit, no greed = no get scam

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Myairline is not yet operational. It just recently obtained the approvals from the authorities to start its operations.

How could someone alleged that the “agents” were going all over town telling ppl that there were monthly returns from investment in the airline NOW when the airline had not even flown a single person from point A to point B?

https://www.malaysianow.com/news/2022/09/28...aFLlyJmguo42JlQ

This post has been edited by Stamp: Oct 4 2022, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(WongFookMi @ Aug 11 2022, 12:36 PM)
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Remember this scammer face. Bald chinese guy.
Dato Goh Hwan Hua is a scammer running a ponzi scheme cheating people's money via myairline now.
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I’m very curious as to why you have bad blood with the Datuk?

Why haven’t you made a police report against the Datuk for his alleged ponzi scheme in the MYairline?

Do you know that MYairline is not yet operational?

This post has been edited by Stamp: Oct 5 2022, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(Stamp @ Oct 4 2022, 11:52 PM)
Myairline is not yet operational. It just recently obtained the approvals from the authorities to start its operations.

How could someone alleged that the “agents” were going all over town telling ppl that there were monthly returns from investment in the airline NOW when the airline had not even flown a single person from point A to point B?

https://www.malaysianow.com/news/2022/09/28...aFLlyJmguo42JlQ
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???????

Let me jump in.

What the main purpose or issue you want to share? You try to defend?
Or how you know the agent didn't persuade as oppose from previous writer? You are one of the agent?

I just curious to know that it is still not yet "operational". And you admit they yet to have income and monthly return,
Your post may be alert All investors, they would be very concern (No income, but high expenses), let me simply breakdown
- They claim they have 300 staffs and 45 pilot. This mean very high fixed cost, if one staff average RM 3K a month, then they burn RM 1.0 Million monthly easily.
- They lease the plane from other, they didn't own it
- Air plane leasing fee, parking fee, insurance and maintenance fee will cost another big hole
- Their vision is to be global best on time performer. By how many air planes? how frequency they want to flight?

Capital AA been operated so long, and yet they went into PN17 due to impact from Pandemic, reduced of passenger uncertainty in fuel price.
Now they are recovering.
Aviation industry need critical mass to survive.

From Competitor scenario, Capital AA also want to gain back the market position and volume. They will fight die heart for their existing route which Myailines claimed.
Where is Myairlines position? any comparative and competitive advantage they have to compete with Capital AA?



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QUOTE(Stamp @ Oct 5 2022, 12:03 AM)
I’m very curious as to why you have bad blood with the Datuk?

Why haven’t you made a police report against the Datuk for his alleged ponzi scheme in the MYairline?

Do you know that MYairline is not yet operational?
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Apart waiting the poster to response you. Thanks for your open minded attitude to ask people made report.

For those whom think they were scam.
Just take note of below channels. Regulators would be happy to assist.

A) BNM
BNMTELELINK (Customer Service Call Centre)
Tel: 1-300-88-5465 Fax: 03-2174 1515
Email: bnmtelelink@bnm.gov.my

B) SC
aduan@seccom.com.my;
Facsimile: (603) 6204 8991;

C) RMP
Commercial crime investigation
CCID Infoline via WhatsApp at +6013-211 1222.
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2019...-crime-infoline
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QUOTE(Shining star @ Oct 5 2022, 10:01 AM)
???????

Let me jump in.

What the main purpose or issue you want to share? You try to defend?
Or how you know the agent didn't persuade as oppose from previous writer? You are one of the agent?

I just curious to know that it is still not yet "operational". And you admit they yet to have income and monthly return,
Your post may be alert All investors, they would be very concern (No income, but high expenses), let me simply breakdown
- They claim they have 300 staffs and 45 pilot. This mean very high fixed cost, if one staff average RM 3K a month, then they burn RM 1.0 Million monthly easily.
- They lease the plane from other, they didn't own it
- Air plane leasing fee, parking fee, insurance and maintenance fee will cost another big hole
- Their vision is to be global best on time performer. By how many air planes? how frequency they want to flight?

Capital AA been operated so long, and yet they went into PN17 due to impact from Pandemic, reduced of passenger uncertainty in fuel price.
Now they are recovering.
Aviation industry need critical mass to survive.

From Competitor scenario, Capital AA also want to gain back the market position and volume. They will fight die heart for their existing route which Myailines claimed.
Where is Myairlines position? any comparative and competitive advantage they have to compete with Capital AA?
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It’s a waste of my time trying to shed some light on the issue into your small mind.

This post has been edited by Stamp: Oct 6 2022, 04:45 AM
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It’s a waste of my time trying to shed some light on the issue into your small mind.
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Don't make me laugh... wake up at 4:44 AM to reply it. Why so excited

This is no small mind, but tactical and analytical mind.
Can't answer then ask your boss to answer la.

How to fight with Capital A with your limited resource (2 or 3 plane vs over hundred plane fleets)?
How to compete with Air asia and yet investor to get good return? what kind of business model?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MYAirline
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirAsia#Current_fleet


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