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Salvador_Dali
post Apr 22 2022, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(namdosan @ Apr 22 2022, 03:45 PM)
Do you think BNM might lose the Anti-money laundering/ CFT case against i-Serve Online Mall/ i-Serve Group of Companies?

Is there any history of BNM losing in such cases?
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Are you one of the investor? If so, how much have you invested? Can you please share your story, thanks.
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post Apr 22 2022, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 22 2022, 04:20 PM)
aml/cft act is like isa, unless source of funds could be proven clean else is considered illegitimate.
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Yes, i get what u mean.
VERY2 rare case it could be challenged and win.
Iserve is not Ipman. now they are fighting with group of authorities... and be aware that LHDN not yet involve as of this moment.


BNM charged AML/CLF and ask Iserve to defend why their collected fund is not a scam, what is the high return business model?
ANd this already big question mark for Iserve collecting these funds without license.
LHDN can anytimes step in to conduct field investigation on Iserve throughout the year, whether they pay tax based on the margin of business model they claim.

Back to the primitive, logical and core issue.
If I serve can give 3 % monthly to victim, that mean 36 % per annum.
WTF they don't finance from the bank? the interest is far lower than 36 %
Why want to get fund from Public one by one..
Many questions marks.......

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post Apr 22 2022, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(Salvador_Dali @ Apr 20 2022, 08:36 PM)
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the domain name was registered on April 2021, BNM raided them on Nov 2021.
they've probably already allocated a portion of their money towards the airline co.
SKS Airline already started flying, myairline not yet, dont know why.
the only question is now that they've been raided, will new investor or victim invest in this airline?
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Myairlines not sure when can fly.
But i doubt so soon in near future as most of their source of finance been raid. even want to rent a aeroplane also no money... unless a super investor come in.

Few years ago,
Suasana airlines (similar money game) was fined by MOT.
That time they don't have license and hardly see they are active now.
https://www.mot.gov.my/my/Berita%20Terkini/...%20berkuasa.pdf
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post Apr 22 2022, 08:26 PM

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They are going to fly, by hook or by crook they have to do it to find investor.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/113...e-targets-a320s
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post Apr 24 2022, 09:36 AM

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WHO is Raja Petra? Is He still alive?
He spread many news that Malaysia is becoming a failed state…. I am sure he not stay in Subang as he hiding in some lubang.

He repeatedly said BNM did it to I serve was to save Air asia and MAS… BNM governor has some personal intention….
I want to laugh…..

Now Capital A also listed in PN17, MAS made some moderate profit. Now a don’t know where new rising competitor not even have an aeroplane can challenge these two existing operators?? Is it logical ?

BNM seize the account under AMLA was due to illegal fund collection, mean a not license public fund or company/individual to collect investment. I serve need to prove during the coming court hearing. And also prove how to pay victim 3 % monthly interest from their so called business model.
If I serve so legitimate then why didn’t they apply the license in the first place? And if pay out 3 % interest monthly to the victim mean 36 % annually.
What don’t they borrow formally from the bank? The interest might only be 7-10% (benchmark to House loan) ? Why need to pay 36 % instead of 7 % to lower the financial cost? Or their so called business model can’t be trusted?

Whatever fact they have, just prove in court la..

Don’t twisted the fact.

This post has been edited by Shining star: Apr 24 2022, 10:00 AM
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post Apr 24 2022, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(supercap69 @ Apr 24 2022, 11:55 AM)
What you asked and the way they are asked may hint that you are probably an enforcement agent (with BNM i supposed or the PDRM?). Or simply from unit trust industry (envy that investors capital is shifting to private placements)

To answer your questions, I am not an investor. I have been approached by some agents and yes, they are certified financial planners (CFP) and also hold CMSRL.

My main point of argument is not about iServe (let the law punish them if found guilty) but on the misconduct of BNM which should be the entity in championing its own Code of Ethics for the financial industry. The public’s trust in the nation’s central bank has been eroding since the 1mdb case and now even more with iServe case.
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Agent holding CFP or CMSRL doesn not mean that agent is not a affliated scammer, or brainwashed to indirectly scam the other into it unknowingly.. or maybe they are too deep into it for fast money until they cannot know what is right or wrong..

So can quote this agent is doctor , lawyer, auditor or whatever, but this kind of company is just a matter of time to kaboom
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QUOTE(supercap69 @ Apr 24 2022, 11:55 AM)
What you asked and the way they are asked may hint that you are probably an enforcement agent (with BNM i supposed or the PDRM?). Or simply from unit trust industry (envy that investors capital is shifting to private placements)

To answer your questions, I am not an investor. I have been approached by some agents and yes, they are certified financial planners (CFP) and also hold CMSRL.

My main point of argument is not about iServe (let the law punish them if found guilty) but on the misconduct of BNM which should be the entity in championing its own Code of Ethics for the financial industry. The public’s trust in the nation’s central bank has been eroding since the 1mdb case and now even more with iServe case.
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Bnm has access to all bank account transaction in this country, have conducted investigation before freezing these accounts. It remains for iserve to prove their source of funds is legitimate.

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post Apr 24 2022, 12:26 PM

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just look at it. if it is too good to be true
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post Apr 26 2022, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Apr 24 2022, 12:13 PM)
Agent holding CFP or CMSRL doesn not mean that agent is not a affliated scammer, or brainwashed to indirectly scam the other into it unknowingly.. or maybe they are too deep into it for fast money until they cannot know what is right or wrong..

So can quote this agent is doctor , lawyer, auditor or whatever, but this kind of company is just a matter of time to kaboom
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Yeah....
Agent that certified by CFP, CMSRL or any regulated association or certification bodies that not mean he/she didn't lie or cheat.
But the chances/rates to get cheat would be very low compare to those agent didn't get any certification.
It's might not be easier and need some requirement to renew the certificate, so a truely certified agent would be least chance to misconduct, misrepresent or mislead the investment.
In summary, they are regulated and monitored,

Example: Like you want to got for a surgery.
The surgery fee is about the same.
You will choose a Doctor that got certificate and experience? or a "Doctor" that got nothing?
in case of some dispute, how you or your next-kin think the winning chance to remediate your case?
Since the "Doctor" knew they are fake, in order to pull people come in, they NEED and MUST offer highest interest to lure people...

So the hospital is like a platform. KKM (MOH) is like MOF, SC and BNM are the regulated body to audit the market time to time.
Now SC and BNM, or PDRM are doing their job to stop the further damages in the market.

Illegal Funding in AMLF and led to seize of all their accounts are not so easy to be repudiated.
What I-serve can do now is to prepare all the evidence to prove why they are not scam? higher return from ROI really come from their business model.
Ask their business partners defend them... but i doubt they have any business partners (supplier, co-partner etc) that can give then 30 % return.


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post May 10 2022, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(namdosan @ May 9 2022, 11:09 PM)
The correct link:
www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/travel/2022/05/09/malaysia039s-newest-ultra-low-cost-carrier-plane-spotted-in-klia?fbclid=IwAR3eLsaYsmvsqvr61QyppL1opBvaPgtu6htwzHH6OPnl_MItR5qgmyQnYj0
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Cool down.... what so worry? This is a freedom country, the prosecuted is not guilty until they were proofed guilty and sentenced by court.
Let buy pop corn and see wayang la....

Previously also have Suasa air by moon space...
ANd Ryan air....
Where are they now?

Not easier to venture into Aviation industry with no capital, net working and experience.
How many airbus they could buy or hire? how many route they can flight and fight with Air Asia and MAS locally....
This not yet count other low cost carriers in the region like Cebu Phil, Malindo Indonesia, SMile Thai.......
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post May 16 2022, 12:51 AM

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post May 18 2022, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(Salvador_Dali @ May 16 2022, 12:51 AM)
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Sorry, what is that?
i can't click the CTOS link, may be this is a jpeg file

I think MYairline only got one plane now.
I give them sometime to gather the plane to 5.
How to maximize the ridership and make profit to pay their "investors" ?
24-36 % per annum still possible?

If so easy, AA would not be in PN17 list....
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post May 19 2022, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Shining star @ May 18 2022, 06:55 PM)
Sorry, what is that?
i can't click the CTOS link, may be this is a jpeg file

I think MYairline only got one plane now.
I give them sometime to gather the plane to 5.
How to maximize the ridership and make profit to pay their "investors" ?
24-36 % per annum still possible?

If so easy, AA would not be in PN17 list....
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Somebody shared about the name of parent company for Zillion Wealth.
Who in the world give such a name? Such a weird name.
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post Jun 26 2022, 03:32 PM

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https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/living...9s-no-hope-left

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post Jun 28 2022, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Salvador_Dali @ Jun 26 2022, 03:32 PM)
These victim always mistakenly think the boss can Kaodim. Worst to worst, they only settle their problem and escaped.
They leaved the mess to victims.
Only when victim can't get the income then they start make noise.

Eventually they never think F.Depoit can only pay merely 2 % per annum.
Why this ponzi can pay them 2-3% a month? was it legitimate in the first place?
Now don't pray any Miracle can come out la.

I heard some existing I serve agent was switched to become agent of Cash trust and global trust, as they blur customer will get some income.....
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/seve...e-ponzi-schemes
But news has been circulated and alarmed it....



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post Jul 21 2022, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Shining star @ Jun 28 2022, 03:08 PM)
These victim always mistakenly think the boss can Kaodim. Worst to worst, they only settle their problem and escaped.
They leaved the mess to victims.
Only when victim can't get the income then they start make noise.

Eventually they never think F.Depoit can only pay merely 2 % per annum.
Why this ponzi can pay them 2-3% a month? was it legitimate in the first place?
Now don't pray any Miracle can come out la.

I heard some existing I serve agent was switched to become agent of Cash trust and global trust, as they blur customer will get some income.....
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/seve...e-ponzi-schemes
But news has been circulated and alarmed it....
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You are running a campaign against I-Serve mercilessly in this thread without providing any solid evidence to prove your allegations.

What's your beef with I-Serve?

If you read the news carefully, BNM was carrying out investigations of alleged AMLA practice by I-Serve. BNM has yet to charge the company in court to this date which we can imply that the investigation is on-going.

I-Serve made a complaint to the court that BNM published a news that were not accurate and misleading. Seriously, why would the company keep RM118 million in cash in their offices? Were there actually cash seizure by BNM? I am guessing that I-Serve was brave enough to file for a judicial review against BNM's actions because there was no actual cash seizure by BNM. Did BNM lie to the public?

Let the court review the case and we will then know the truth whether BNM had acted wrongly or rightfully against I-Serve.

And don't discount the conspiracy theory by RPK that you posted earlier. there could be plenty of wayangs behind this affair.

This post has been edited by Stamp: Jul 21 2022, 05:02 PM
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post Jul 21 2022, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Jul 21 2022, 04:58 PM)
You are running a campaign against I-Serve mercilessly in this thread without providing any solid evidence to prove your allegations.

What's your beef with I-Serve?

If you read the news carefully, BNM was carrying out investigations of alleged AMLA practice by I-Serve. BNM has yet to charge the company in court to this date which we can imply that the investigation is on-going.

I-Serve made a complaint to the court that BNM published a news that were not accurate and misleading. Seriously, why would the company keep RM118 million in cash in their offices? Were there actually cash seizure by BNM? I am guessing that I-Serve was brave enough to file for a judicial review against BNM's actions because there was no actual cash seizure by BNM. Did BNM lie to the public?

Let the court review the case and we will then know the truth whether BNM had acted wrongly or rightfully against I-Serve.

And don't discount the conspiracy theory by RPK that you posted earlier. there could be plenty of wayangs behind this affair.
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Lol you trust a paid traitor who dare not even face the Malaysian law due process like Alvin c2pid coward🤭
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post Jul 22 2022, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Jul 21 2022, 04:58 PM)
You are running a campaign against I-Serve mercilessly in this thread without providing any solid evidence to prove your allegations.

What's your beef with I-Serve?

If you read the news carefully, BNM was carrying out investigations of alleged AMLA practice by I-Serve. BNM has yet to charge the company in court to this date which we can imply that the investigation is on-going.

I-Serve made a complaint to the court that BNM published a news that were not accurate and misleading. Seriously, why would the company keep RM118 million in cash in their offices? Were there actually cash seizure by BNM? I am guessing that I-Serve was brave enough to file for a judicial review against BNM's actions because there was no actual cash seizure by BNM. Did BNM lie to the public?

Let the court review the case and we will then know the truth whether BNM had acted wrongly or rightfully against I-Serve.

And don't discount the conspiracy theory by RPK that you posted earlier. there could be plenty of wayangs behind this affair.
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I seriously doubt you have difficulty to read the issue. Or you are the I serve agent?
Who said keeping RM 118 million in office? All in cash form?
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/bnm-...s-bank-accounts
The news clearly stated seize the accounts too.
Mean all the related accounts which I-serve use to transact (funding without license),

Why you doubt BNM, SC and other authorities ?
Why you focus whether these money are in cash?




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post Jul 23 2022, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Shining star @ Jul 22 2022, 10:22 PM)
I seriously doubt you have difficulty to read the issue.  Or you are the I serve agent?
Who said keeping RM 118 million in office? All in cash form?
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/bnm-...s-bank-accounts
The news clearly stated seize the accounts too.
Mean all the related accounts which I-serve use to transact (funding without license),

Why you doubt BNM, SC and other authorities ?
Why you focus whether these money are in cash?
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Like I said, just wait for the outcome of the judicial review.

I’d like to see you eat your words.
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post Jul 25 2022, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Jul 23 2022, 09:32 PM)
Like I said, just wait for the outcome of the judicial review.

I’d like to see you eat your words.
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Wah? you talk like you are the judge ? or part of the invisible hand in jurisdiction system?
How you know the outcome?

Like all money games, those big bosses might be 'escape'.
The issue is those investor money would be gone. It never go back to their hand anymore..
MBI, Geneva Gold, JJPTR, Richway.......

WHEN they first con into investment, they already should knew the destiny and fate.
If a person invested RM 50k at age 30, any legitimate scheme would pay them at 2-3 % monthly until they die at age 80 or 90 ?
Ask your I-serve boss to register his business model to challenge Warren Buffett la. This is Guinness record with investment with compound interest up to 24%-36% yearly.

And do also unveil all the money in / money out in audited account in court. See who will be more scare.

I will buy pop corn and see what the outcome.


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