Maha said Malay is the first person to travel round the world.

"Tun Dr Mahathir Mohammed, during his first tenure as Prime Minister, reiterated this fact at a United Nations meeting on Dec 4, 1997. Mahathir took everyone present by surprise when he proudly declared that a Malay was the first person to sail around the world!"

So I goggled and found this article.

https://www.nst.com.my/lifestyle/sunday-vib...son-sail-around

he did.. he accompany magelan.. but there's another story about awang that the ultra malay did not know and did not want others to know

that he converted to christianity and help to protelyze the whole philiphine island from islam to christianity, which is a big no no no is history, lol!

can u imagine, first person to circumnavigate the globe is a malay, and he protelyze the philiphines! lol

(the original name of Manila is Amanillah, meaning blessed by Allah)

Sos mana?

Claim 1st

strong smell of weed coming from u

assignment during uni time, titas subject or something.. during that time we still refer to text book and physical journal.. I went to library in KL and Melaka to find info, but the library in melaka is the one that have lots of info.

U see, there's lot of writing in spanish record, but only few got translated to English and even fewer to Malay. The one translated to Malay is selectively translated, and omitted many part of Enqirue christianity and his missionary activity in Philippines. The source in English is the one that tell the real story, but I think most of it is not digitalized yet

thats why u see this Enrique name is not put inside national school textbook hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Hmm paging unker 9m2w if he knows something regarding this

Interesting.

Means you have a list of reference.

yerp.. wait till u read the translation made by malay scholar, even higher than smoking weed!

trivia: do you know why he is called Panglima Awang? the truth is, nobody know his real name. After the fall of Malacca, white people came freely and captures any Malay they found like a hunter hunting for pig. Thats how Awang got captured. They calls him Enrique, which loosely means 'black', because his skin tone. And what do Malay people calls people with dark skin tone? Yes, Awang. The 'panglima' thing is put there just to honour him posthumously

also trivia: the reason that malacca history is being taught in school is because before that, foreign powers dont dare coming to SEA region acting like samseng. Just righ after fall of Malacca, thats what they do. So Malacca is acting like US right now, preventing other samseng (China and Russia) from acting freely

filipine was a muslim nation until spain decide to conquistadore it either submit to christianity or get ready for beheading.
and when the rebel grew stronger they practically lost the war and were ready to pack they shiftily past the batton to america.

Not touching this subject with a ten foot pole 😂

But my lecturer did arrange us access to UM library for assignment research. Engineering related. University library not as well equipped. No titas or anything remotely the same during my time. So I guess plausible story (the effort part) but alot of effort if it's not a core subject

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Oct 24 2021, 04:33 PM

I think mamak can stay so long till now because the weed he taking very strong

1st person this, 1st person that... They all dead already. End of the person. You proud for what? Next who will be the 1st person step foot on mars. Just wait...

There's use to be a sultanate in manila. That's one is true. There's use to be an Indian kingdom also in the Philippines.

But Islam wasn't wide spread in the eastern part of Malay archipelagos during those time. Most likely the most people help protelyze is either Animism or Hindu/Buddha. Even Javanese become Muslim in the 17th -18th century.

The idea that Philippines was once Muslim then christianized is mostly folk tales by some ustaz here to play victim card.

This post has been edited by darth5zaft: Oct 24 2021, 04:41 PM

Lmao interesting read

Yeah, Malay dah maju. Now remove the farking tongkat!

if mamak knew this all along, the malay B40 kana game liao lettew.

Implement NEP and let malay ultra stay rich. One of his many cards.

Indianisation of early Malay kingdoms and society
Ranjit Singh Malhi
Published: Oct 24, 2021 9:05 AM

HISTORY: TOLD AS IT IS | As a multi-ethnic nation, Malaysia must take pride in its multi-cultural and multi-religious heritage as reflected in Tourism Malaysia’s slogan, “Malaysia, Truly Asia”.

In this regard, we must not deny the significant impact of Indian civilisation since the early centuries of the Common Era (CE) on the development of early Malay kingdoms and society, particularly on the ruling and upper class.

Indeed, till today, as reiterated by Ismail Hamid in his book ‘Masyarakat dan Budaya Melayu’, the Indian civilisation “has left behind some traces in every aspect of Malay life”, particularly pertaining to language, literature, customs, and the coronation ceremony of Malay rulers.

According to John F Cady, available evidence seems to suggest that “the massive cultural impact of India” on the Malays in the Malay Peninsula prior to the 14th century was “virtually overwhelming”. Similarly, Nik Hassan Shuhaimi states that “up to the 14th century, Hindu-Buddhist influences had a major impact on Malaysian culture.”

Nevertheless, it is important to note that the Malay society did not blindly embrace the Hindu-Buddhist culture in its entirety, but rather adapted it to suit local cultural patterns and religious beliefs. For example, the Malays did not adopt the Hindu caste system and that the scripts of Indian origin were modified for local language writing.

Sadly, our current school history textbooks have downplayed the influence of Indian civilisation on Malay kingdoms and society before the 14th century.

Worse still, the “ethno-nationalist narrative” of local history repeatedly claims that Parameswara, the Hindu-Buddhist founder of the Melaka sultanate, became a Muslim in 1414 and took a new name, Megat Iskandar Syah. However, based on Ming records, Parameswara died in late 1413 or early 1414 and was succeeded by his son, Megat Iskandar Syah. Make no mistake about it - Parameswara died as a Hindu-Buddhist.

According to the ‘Sejarah Melayu’ or Malay Annals and other leading historians such as Oliver W Wolters, Christopher H Wake and Mary Turnbull, the first Melaka ruler to embrace Islam in the 1430s was Sri Maharaja, the third ruler of Melaka, who assumed the name of Muhammad Syah.

Historians generally agree that the first Indian voyages to the Malay Peninsula occurred several centuries BCE (Before Common Era). The Indians, particularly from the Coromandel Coast of South India, arrived in greater numbers during the first century CE. As stated by Roland Braddell, there were Indian settlements in the Malay Peninsula from the first century CE. However, there is no evidence of large-scale Indian migration to the Malay Peninsula in ancient times.

There are various theories regarding the process of Indianisation in the Malay Peninsula. First, it is suggested that the merchant class paved the way for the entry of Indian religion and culture primarily through marriage with local women. Second, it is argued that the local Malay chieftains took the initiative to invite the Hindu Brahmans to buttress their authority and legitimacy.

Third, it is suggested that Indian culture was spread by local Malays who were skilled and brave sailors. A considerable number of them had sailed to India and subsequently brought back knowledge of Indian culture. Fourth and finally, Buddhism, which was an important religion of the rulers of India at one time apart from the dominant Hindu religion, was spread by Buddhist monks under the auspices of wealthy merchants.

Malay city-states and kingdoms

From about the second century CE, Indianised Malay city-states or small kingdoms such as Ancient Kedah (Kadaram in Tamil and Kataha in Sanskrit), Gangga Nagara (Kinta Valley) and Langkasuka (modern Pattani district) began to emerge on the Malay Peninsula. By the late fifth century CE, Buddhism and Hinduism had gained a firm foothold in the Malay Peninsula.

This is not only acknowledged by reputable historians but also by contemporary writers. For example, Mohd Fadli Ghani of PAS Research Centre in his article ‘Konsep Alam Melayu’ stated that the Malays were Hindu-Buddhists before embracing Islam.

A little-known fact is that there are several Sanskrit inscriptions on a boulder at Cerok To’Kun, near Bukit Mertajam which include reference to a king, Ramaunibha, who is probably, according to John Miksic, “the first Malaysian ruler whose name is recorded in history.”

The early Malay kingdoms adopted Indian ideas of divine kingship and form of government. Malay chieftains became rajas or maharajas with courts. Royal authority was buttressed by deifying the kings through elaborate rituals conducted by Hindu Brahmans. The early Malay kings were considered as the incarnation of Hindu gods, particularly Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma based upon the concept of devaraja (god-king).

The coronation customs of the early Malay rulers were influenced by Hindu culture. The tools used during the coronation of the king such as swords, bracelets and chains were the tools used by the Hindu gods. According to Richard Winstedt, the guardian genies of the state of Perak used to include Brahma, Vishnu and Indra.

Some elements of the influence of Hindu civilisation in the coronation ceremony of Malay rulers still exist today such as the erection of a five-tier dais for royal ceremonies, the ceremony of cleansing sins with the custom of watering, and the wearing of government tools on the hands, neck and head. The names of state dignitaries are also borrowed from the Indian element, including Seri Nara Diraja who is in charge of declaring the appointment of the Malay ruler.

Hindu Brahmans were appointed as ministers, scribes, astrologers and advisors to the Malay kings. For example, in the kingdom of Tan-tan which was most likely located in the state of Terengganu, there were eight high officers of state of whom all were Brahmans. In the kingdom of Chih-tu (The Red-Earth Land), which according to Paul Wheatley was located in Kelantan, there were several hundred Brahmans in the royal court.

The hereditary system of government practised by the Malay kingdoms was also influenced by Hinduism. Additionally, early government law was influenced by the Law Code of Manu and the Hindu law book, the ‘Dharmasastra’ whilst the state system was influenced by the work of Arthasastra.

The early Malay rulers also adopted Sanskrit or Hindu names. For example, Chinese annals mention the Hindu state of Pa-hoang (Pahang) which was apparently ruled by Sari-Pala-Varma during mid-fifth century CE. A cornelian seal engraved with the name of a Hindu prince, Sri Vishnuvarman, was found in Kuala Selinsing, Larut district of Perak. Places were also given Indian names. For example, the capital of Pahang was formerly known as Indrapura (city of Indra), named after the Hindu god, Indra.

Based upon Chinese documentary evidence, Indian customs had permeated local life. In Chih-tu, both the nobility and commoners were cremated upon death. Hindu-influenced Malay marriage ceremonies, including the adat bersanding (sitting-in-state ceremony) and adat berinai (henna-staining ceremony) have survived till present times.

Malay vocabulary

Pertaining to the Malay language, the Indian civilisation has contributed significantly to its initial phase of development.

The Malay vocabulary consists of thousands of Sanskrit and Tamil loanwords. Among the Sanskrit loanwords related to government and administration in the Malay language are negara, negeri, kota, desa, raja, permaisuri, paduka, mahkota, istana, putera, puteri, perdana menteri, menteri, bendahara, laksamana, duta, tentera, wira and bumiputera. Religious loanwords include agama, sembahyang, dosa, neraka, syurga, pahala, puasa, dewa and dewi.

Examples of family-related Sanskrit loanwords include keluarga, suami, isteri, saudara, saudari and saya. Trading activities loanwords include harga, benda, harta, bahara and kerja whilst those related to language, literature and education are bahasa, erti, guru, siswa, mahasiswa, sastera and perpustakaan.

Sanskrit loanwords related to time include hari, masa, purba, ketika, tadi, bila and tatkala, whilst those related to the human body are rupa, kepala, lidah, nadi and bahu. Other Sanskrit loanwords in the Malay language are derma, kerana, utama, warna, segala, supaya, antara, aneka, maha, segera, and sempurna.

Among the Tamil loanwords in the Malay language related to trading activities are kedai, gedung, modal, kapal and perahu, whilst those related to household items include katil, peti, talam and tirai.

Tamil loanwords related to social relationships include bapa, ayah, emak, kakak, and mempelai. Examples of Tamil loanwords related to food items are apam, kanji, kari, mangga, bendi, putu and sate. Examples of other Tamil loanwords in the Malay language are cat, catur, misai, mahligai, logam, denda, kuil and kolam.

With regard to early Malay literature and performing arts, much of it was adapted from the two Sanskrit epics, ‘Mahabharata’ and ‘Ramayana’. Examples are ‘Hikayat Sang Boma’, ‘Hikayat Seri Rama’ and ‘Hikayat Pendawa’. The characters in the Malay wayang kulit or shadow-play - Ramayana, Sita Dewi and Hanuman - are too drawn from the ‘Mahabharata’ and ‘Ramayana’.

In conclusion, to paraphrase renowned archaeologist Philip Rawson, Indian culture has been a powerful civilising force on the Malay kingdoms and society from the first century till the 14th century CE. Vestiges of the influence of Indian civilisation remain in the Malay language, literature, customs and the coronation ceremony of Malay rulers.

Of course, the Indianising elements occurred during a specific period in the early history of Malay society and only traces of them remain behind today. But history, however ancient, must be told as it is and we must not deny our heritage.

https://m.malaysiakini.com/columns/596497

Interesting. Got link to this Philipine story?

another Hang Tuah history remake?

Ya ya ya... They also landed on moon first

How can a 14 years old boy (according to wikipedia) of either Malaccan or Sumatran origin converts a region. Didn't you find it weird. Even if Malays has some similarity with the phils, the culture was so different it's almost illogical for an outsider to be able to do that. Also let say Enrique stayed quite a while in Spain and he was in his early 30s when he complete the journey, which is probably a much suitable age if we assume he was a preacher. That's like what, almost 20 years is Magellan's care. He would be a true blue Spaniard by then. I dont think he even remember or associate himself with anything with this region by then. Sama macam you guys la once duduk bidenland musti mau jadi bidenman punya. So it become less and less logical if you think about it.

So i would say your finding is probably plausible in some parts and horseshit in other parts. Maybe if you can include any citation from phils that can give support the findings it will be more believable. Sakian.

at least no berak tengah jalan. lol.

There is no answer. Not everthing is recorded like when you go toilet

u need to know that when the ship arrived at the shore of philipines, never did magellan thought in his mind that they have circled the globe, u know why? because magellan did not speak any malay, and the locals that they first came around were speaking in a language that Enrique could understand, which is Malay language. It became a basis to be the first man since Enrique is the one that set foot on the shore.

So why did I say Enqirue proselytize the Philippines? because he became the translator for Magellan, and Magellan is doing missionary work. Without Enrique, Magellan will never knew that the ship has already circled the globe, in fact Magellan will be killed much earlier when they reach the shore. Without Enrique also, Magellan can never do missionary work because there are no translator. And hell, Magellan even called the phils as 'Moro', which refers to the Spanish Muslim, simply because he didnot know that they were Malay (this is also why southern phils are called Bangsamoro)

On the Spaniard thing that u say, no, record on Enrique came from two sources which are Magellan himself, and his aid (or someone else on the ship). Magellan wrote positive things about Enrique, and that he thought Enrique as his adopted son, and even brought Enrique to be baptised in Italy (I couldnt remember whether they met the pope or not, but theres record that said Magellan met the pope in Vatican and Enqirue might be there). His aid on the other hand wrote negatively about Enrique, and he treat him badly. Scholars argue that the aid is actually abusing Enqirue and treated him like a slave (hence the name Enrique, or black man). Thus scholars argue that while Magellan treat Enrique nicely, Enrique went away the day Magellan got killed because he despise them. The official western record about Enrique ends there, which is followed by local record showing that Enrique might have arrived in port in Sumatra or Melaka. Nobody wants to stay in Bidenland if they were treated like shit, similarly deswai u see people migrating out of Malaysia sometime return back because the racism in angmoh country is shittier. Similarly Enrique hate Magellan because he's treated like a slave.

No citation from phils, as i mentioned earlier, research i done long time ago, and not a core subject also.

Anyway as u have mentioned phils, u need to know that the phils, like how malay muslim is having love-hate relationship with their hindhu-buddhist and liberal past, the phils too is having love-hate relationship with western colonialism+catholic religion+muslim. Thats why phils in Singapore want to write their race as Malay, and this belongs to far longer thread

Now thats weird. Because the way you wrote looked like he single handedly 'liberated' manila. lol. Why wouldnt a figure with big acheivement not celebrated in the country where he had done his good deeds.

yes


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lumay

Sri Rajahmura Lumaya, known in his shortened name Sri Lumay, was the first Rajah and the founder of the Indianized Rajahnate of Cebu. According to the epic Aginid, Bayok sa atong Tawarik,[1] a Bisayan epic story, Sri Lumay was a half-Tamil and half Malay minor prince of the Chola dynasty in Sumatra. Sri Lumay was the grandfather of Rajah Humabon.[2] He may be called a semi-legendary figure, since no other written records mentions about Sri Lumay, other than in oral traditions in the Visayan epic story of Anginid.

Sri Lumay, or Rajahmura Lumaya, established the Rajahnate of Cebu. He was a prince of the Chola dynasty which ruled Sumatra then. Initially, he was commissioned by the Maharajah to establish a base for their army force; instead, he created his own kingdom which he himself ruled with his son, Sri Alho and Sri Ukob; they ruled the south known as Sialo, which included Valladolid, Carcar, up to Santander.[3][2][1]

The account of Aginid, Bayok sa atong Tawarik is about Sri Lumay of Sumatra who settled in Sugbo with his son, Sri Alho, ruling the south known as Sialo which included Valladolid, Carcar, up to Santander. Sri Lumay established the city of Singhapala that become the capital of the rajahnate and what is now part of Mabolo in the northern district of Cebu City.[4]
Battle campaigns
Main article: Datu Daya

Sri Lumay fought the Magalos or destroyers of peace , this is a Muslim Moro warriors who come from Mindanao, they had been raiding the island of Cebu in search for precious item like gold or ceramics and slaves. Sri Lumay was noted for his strict policies in defending against Moro Muslim raiders and slavers from Mindanao. His use of scorched earth tactics to repel invaders gave rise to the name Kang Sri Lumayang Sugbu (literally "that of Sri Lumay's great fire") to the town, which was later shortened to Sugbu ("scorched earth").[5]

In other folk stories, the problem about the Magalos where already an issue since the time of early Malay settlers during the time of the legendary Datu Daya who build a watch towers to watch the community against the up coming raids.
Death

He died in battle, fighting with the Muslim Moro pirates known as magalos from Mindanao.[5]

This post has been edited by chrisweeks: Oct 25 2021, 01:07 PM

Good read

Merong Mahawangsa was descendant of Alexander the Great,... even he was gay,..

Lel I read this Panglima Awang novel when I was in primary school in the 80s.
Iinm, he didn't make a return to tanah Melayu coz he was dead in a war in the Philippines sea

Dato Azhar?

Bro, you no scared kena report? People here having torn in their ass every hour.

Well the chola never read Srivijaya history i guess.

Last time also Srivijaya when they are in java send someone to be their representative in Cambodia, then that suvarnabarman guy went rouge & establish his own kingdoms.

The Majapahit also never learned, they do ganyang melayu & concures malayapura, take the princess as wifu then his son go back Sumatra & declare himself the king & independence from Majapahit. After Majapahit got enough, malayapura offspring go to 2 different area. One go to Pagar ruyung while the other more famous one sang nila utama go Singapore. Parameswara is the the decedent's of sang nila utama.


As for Pinoy, generally their acknowledge that they part of the Malay race but Javanese like Dayak would be mad if you called them that as they view Malay as ethnicity. While Malay in MY &SG see the word Malay as a nationality.

Interesting...

Enrique is a Malabarese and he is a Kristan

sinister to changed his ethnicity origin to a hybrid race