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 Modenas/Bajaj Pulsar RS/NS200 and Dominar 400, I'm an Owner and a Foreman, AMA here!!

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post Nov 19 2021, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Nov 2 2021, 03:53 PM)
After coughing up cash for a new Triumph Tiger 850, I skipped work to send my Dominar back to the Kg Subang service center yet again.

By now, I'm already a familiar face there.

Ran into yet another fanboi while I was there. He accused me of not bothering to read the manual about fork seal maintenance. I told him off.. on which page in the freaking owner's manual does it say anything about fork seal maintenance? "Oh.. ini petua yg sepatutnya ada dalam manual, tapi entah kenapa Modenas tak taruk".

Dah kantoi.

Tak cukup kantoi 1 kali, he goes on to claim that the real maintenance requirement for fork seals is to not let the fork stanchions dry. Need to use axle grease or gearbox oil on the stanchions in order to preserve the fork seals.

Why do fanboys always insult me like this? Me getting a lemon not enough ah?

To further rub salt into my wound, the Grab ride back to Ampang costed me RM70 coz it's hard to get a regular Grab driver around that godforsaken area.
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Lol
I ride big bikes for almost 30 years.

None of the Jap bikes I rode and ride require this kind of maintenance on the fork stanchions.
The most is I clean it when I wash bike.
No leak whatsoever.

So after this. Just make sure you get a more reputable bike brand
Less headache.

joemiad
post Nov 20 2021, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Nov 2 2021, 03:53 PM)
After coughing up cash for a new Triumph Tiger 850, I skipped work to send my Dominar back to the Kg Subang service center yet again.

By now, I'm already a familiar face there.

Ran into yet another fanboi while I was there. He accused me of not bothering to read the manual about fork seal maintenance. I told him off.. on which page in the freaking owner's manual does it say anything about fork seal maintenance? "Oh.. ini petua yg sepatutnya ada dalam manual, tapi entah kenapa Modenas tak taruk".

Dah kantoi.

Tak cukup kantoi 1 kali, he goes on to claim that the real maintenance requirement for fork seals is to not let the fork stanchions dry. Need to use axle grease or gearbox oil on the stanchions in order to preserve the fork seals.

Why do fanboys always insult me like this? Me getting a lemon not enough ah?

To further rub salt into my wound, the Grab ride back to Ampang costed me RM70 coz it's hard to get a regular Grab driver around that godforsaken area.
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Bro, how the Tiger 850 experience? Good? Asking because want to know Tiger performance, hope getting Tiger 660 later.
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post Nov 21 2021, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(joemiad @ Nov 20 2021, 09:09 PM)
Bro, how the Tiger 850 experience? Good? Asking because want to know Tiger performance, hope getting Tiger 660 later.
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The Tiger 850/900 is a completely different animal (pun intended) compared to the Tiger 660.

I bought it to do what my Dominar failed to do - to tour 2-up with wife & luggage in comfort & with shitloads of grunt. Even in its "detuned" guise, Triumph's new 888cc t-plane triple hauls ass with a passenger on board in any gear!

Being new to adv tourers, seat height & weight are of special concern to me & surprisingly the cheaper 850 ticks both boxes better than the rest of the 900s. After a trip to the famous Has Cushion, I can now flatfoot the damn thing when loaded up with wife & luggage with the rear preload 3/4 max.... and that's a huuuge boost to my confidence in handling my first proper adv tourer.

None of this has anything to do with your 660 though. However you'll get the same top-notch purchasing experience I enjoyed. First there's the test ride - take your time to go thru every inch of the bike to discover that Triumphs are generally exceptionally well built & they are rich in the little details (ie logo stamped on the swingarm, deep lacquered paint etc!) Salesman bagi layanan penuh tu toksah ceritalah since it's a given coz they take special pride in having successfully acquired you as their customer... but once the bike is yours, you can come while they walk you thru the pre-PDI check where the guy will explain in greater detail in ins & outs of the bike. On the delivery day, you'll go thru a handover ritual where they'll go thru the delivery order checklist with you, hand you your nice Triumph zipper folder with ur spare key (the keys look fabulous!), lock barrels, manual, svc book etc. They'll take your photo with your shiny new bike with a full tank of fuel & add you to the RATpack group. There is a sense of welcoming into a family, so to speak.

I got jack shit when I bought my Dominar. They handed me my geran + keys & chased me out in 5 minutes. There was just barely enough fuel in the tank to reach the nearest petrol station! Eang Chun guys didn't even know my name & frankly they didn't care. Now I have to live with a shit bike for another year.

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post Nov 21 2021, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Nov 21 2021, 07:24 AM)
The Tiger 850/900 is a completely different animal (pun intended) compared to the Tiger 660.

I bought it to do what my Dominar failed to do - to tour 2-up with wife & luggage in comfort & with shitloads of grunt. Even in its "detuned" guise, Triumph's new 888cc t-plane triple hauls ass with a passenger on board in any gear!

Being new to adv tourers, seat height & weight are of special concern to me & surprisingly the cheaper 850 ticks both boxes better than the rest of the 900s. After a trip to the famous Has Cushion, I can now flatfoot the damn thing when loaded up with wife & luggage with the rear preload 3/4 max.... and that's a huuuge boost to my confidence in handling my first proper adv tourer.

None of this has anything to do with your 660 though. However you'll get the same top-notch purchasing experience I enjoyed. First there's the test ride - take your time to go thru every inch of the bike to discover that Triumphs are generally exceptionally well built & they are rich in the little details (ie logo stamped on the swingarm, deep lacquered paint etc!) Salesman bagi layanan penuh tu toksah ceritalah since it's a given coz they take special pride in having successfully acquired you as their customer... but once the bike is yours, you can come while they walk you thru the pre-PDI check where the guy will explain in greater detail in ins & outs of the bike. On the delivery day, you'll go thru a handover ritual where they'll go thru the delivery order checklist with you, hand you your nice Triumph zipper folder with ur spare key (the keys look fabulous!), lock barrels, manual, svc book etc. They'll take your photo with your shiny new bike with a full tank of fuel & add you to the RATpack group. There is a sense of welcoming into a family, so to speak.

I got jack shit when I bought my Dominar. They handed me my geran + keys & chased me out in 5 minutes. There was just barely enough fuel in the tank to reach the nearest petrol station! Eang Chun guys didn't even know my name & frankly they didn't care. Now I have to live with a shit bike for another year.
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Thanks bro for the review. Yeah it is different beast, but hope some of the characteristics hand over. Hahaha... Ride seat comfortable with std seat?
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post Nov 21 2021, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(joemiad @ Nov 21 2021, 10:16 AM)
Thanks bro for the review. Yeah it is different beast, but hope some of the characteristics hand over. Hahaha... Ride seat comfortable with std seat?
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My wife is interested in the Trident 660 and is in the process of doing her B Full license. When she's ready, we intend to test ride the bugger & see what the new 660 triple engine is all about.

The salesman advised me against opting for the Tiger 900 GT Low version since it includes not only a lower seat but also reduced suspension travel. Happily though I found the stock seat on my 850 to be adequate in the stock low position, requiring shaving off just a few mm to make it just perfect.

Again, the Tiger 660 is a diff bike. Recommend you sign up for a test ride when it arrives next year.
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post Nov 22 2021, 08:54 AM

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how to compare ler a bike tht's over 5x the price tongue.gif tongue.gif

we see your face on triumph fb dy... rclxms.gif
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post Nov 22 2021, 08:57 AM

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meanwhile the dominar will cont to hv other heppy owners...
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post Nov 22 2021, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 22 2021, 09:54 AM)
how to compare ler a bike tht's over 5x the price  tongue.gif tongue.gif
For RM13000, can we at least expect a bike that does not come with rust water in the radiator, leaking fork seals & brakes that don't work...

... or is that far too much to ask?

Good to know others are happy with their D400.

Me, my direct personal experience with this bike as an owner has not been pleasant. For example, right now it has been stuck at the Modenas Svc Ctr in Kg Subang for 4 bloody weeks already for its 3rd warranty claim. Tell me who's happy with that, even if it's a RM5k kapcai?


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post Nov 22 2021, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Nov 22 2021, 10:19 AM)
For RM13000, can we at least expect a bike that does not come with rust water in the radiator, leaking fork seals & brakes that don't work...

... or is that far too much to ask?

Good to know others are happy with their D400.

Me, my direct personal experience with this bike as an owner has not been pleasant. For example, right now it has been stuck at the Modenas Svc Ctr in Kg Subang for 4 bloody weeks already for its 3rd warranty claim. Tell me who's happy with that, even if it's a RM5k kapcai?
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Let's just say there's some bad QC on some of the bikes , Some of us like me for example don't have any major issues as for most of the user on the Dominar FB group.
I never went to their official service centre only back to EC motor for servicing cuz their service centre always full and need to wait for at least a month for appointment.
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post Nov 22 2021, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(007SMH @ Nov 22 2021, 11:15 PM)
I never went to their official service centre only back to EC motor for servicing cuz their service centre always full and need to wait for at least a month for appointment.
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I too avoid the Modernass retards like the plague as much as I can, so I service the bike elsewhere.

But when the bike shat itself and I needed to claim warranty, Eang Chun told me fuck it wait for the lorry to come to load up the bike & send it to... yep you guessed it... Modenas Kg Subang, Shah Alam.

LPPL.

So better pray to god Modenass made your bike on a good day, not on a Friday when those lazy bastards cut corners to go home early for the weekend. Otherwise, you will know my pain when you have to claim warranty...
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post Nov 23 2021, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Nov 22 2021, 11:42 PM)
I too avoid the Modernass retards like the plague as much as I can, so I service the bike elsewhere.

But when the bike shat itself and I needed to claim warranty, Eang Chun told me fuck it wait for the lorry to come to load up the bike & send it to... yep you guessed it... Modenas Kg Subang, Shah Alam.

LPPL.

So better pray to god Modenass made your bike on a good day, not on a Friday when those lazy bastards cut corners to go home early for the weekend. Otherwise, you will know my pain when you have to claim warranty...
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As a side note bro, you can also claim at Service Plus, Service Plus operators are technically independent, hence some are more than happy to help you claim and you can definitely expect better service than SC.
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post Nov 23 2021, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 22 2021, 08:57 AM)
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meanwhile the dominar will cont to hv other heppy owners...
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I'd say most are pretty happy as far as i know. Problems aren't major and easily resolvable, most decide spend some money to fix those issues permanently, it beats having to claim via modenas and have it recur again and suffer downtime and the hassle of the procedures.
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post Nov 25 2021, 10:16 AM

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I'm coming up to 500 first service for my UG. Do I have to go back to EMOS to make use of my free service coupon or can I do it at any modenas sc?
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post Nov 25 2021, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(goldmine @ Nov 25 2021, 10:16 AM)
I'm coming up to 500 first service for my UG. Do I have to go back to EMOS to make use of my free service coupon or can I do it at any modenas sc?
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U can do it at any authorized modenas SC/service plus/dealers. Do ensure you have the oil filter replaced AND ensure they are original modenas/bajaj ones to safeguard your warranty. Some stricter SC will inspect your filter and other consummables in case of a warranty claim.
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post Nov 26 2021, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Nov 22 2021, 11:42 PM)
I too avoid the Modernass retards like the plague as much as I can, so I service the bike elsewhere.

But when the bike shat itself and I needed to claim warranty, Eang Chun told me fuck it wait for the lorry to come to load up the bike & send it to... yep you guessed it... Modenas Kg Subang, Shah Alam.

LPPL.

So better pray to god Modenass made your bike on a good day, not on a Friday when those lazy bastards cut corners to go home early for the weekend. Otherwise, you will know my pain when you have to claim warranty...
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Wa EC screw you until liddat meh

I oso bought my NS from there but didn't receive that kind of experience rofl

Also OP, weren't you the guy who posted his workshop showing off an NS with a round headlight mod in MPOC FB group?

Looking to get a windshield of about 45 to 50cm and a crossbar to mount accessories in the middle instead of relying on screwing in the mirror mount. How much would these additions usually cost?

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post Nov 26 2021, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(overl33t @ Nov 26 2021, 07:04 PM)
Wa EC screw you until liddat meh

I oso bought my NS from there but didn't receive that kind of experience rofl
EC didn't want to deal with warranty claims, refused to make Modenas's lousy QC their problem. They taichi me back to Modernas Shah Alam in Kg Subang, siap suruh tinggal motor tunggu lori datang angkut when they're free.

Incidentally... my bike is still there, coming to 5 weeks edy waiting for them to honour their warranty.

I think I need to go there tomorrow and hound them myself.

Really beh than man....

Motor Modenas, tapi bila claim warranty kena tunggu macam Ducati.

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post Nov 26 2021, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Oct 23 2021, 04:28 PM)
My total garbage low quality ModernAss Dominar has now developed a new problem as the odometer passed the 10,000km mark.

Anytime I pull the throttle more than half & when the tacho passes 5000rpm, it starts to backfire & fart its brains out. I lost half my engine power.

That, and the fork seal has started to leak.... AGAIN.

No choice but limp back to ModernAss service center to claim warranty FOR THE THIRD TIME.

Dominar quality sucks cock.
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just to chip in here.

clean the maf sensor insiode the air filter box. i diagnosed it something wrong with the maf voltage thru obd.

happen to my friend's dominar d400. this is due to air-fuel mixture backflow during throttle closure, thus contaminate the sensor. the sensor is bosch sensor.

just buy throttle body cleaner from mr diy will do.

ecu need to read the amount of air coming in, the contaminated sensor give erratic reading thus the problem.

This post has been edited by hr_elie: Nov 26 2021, 11:36 PM
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post Nov 27 2021, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(Vi Merkz @ Nov 25 2021, 11:59 PM)
U can do it at any authorized modenas SC/service plus/dealers. Do ensure you have the oil filter replaced AND ensure they are original modenas/bajaj ones to safeguard your warranty. Some stricter SC will inspect your filter and other consummables in case of a warranty claim.
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if you guys are open sunday, i'll drop by with my coupon
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post Nov 27 2021, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(overl33t @ Nov 26 2021, 06:04 PM)
Wa EC screw you until liddat meh

I oso bought my NS from there but didn't receive that kind of experience rofl

Also OP, weren't you the guy who posted his workshop showing off an NS with a round headlight mod in MPOC FB group?

Looking to get a windshield of about 45 to 50cm and a crossbar to mount accessories in the middle instead of relying on screwing in the mirror mount. How much would these additions usually cost?
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Ye thats me and that black NS is mine :rofl:

I havent started stocking up on windshields, most windshield for the NS are installed over the stock "windshield", which i find rather filmsy. Theres this guy, windbro selling the bracket, its sturdy, but offers very little in terms of angle adjustment and looks pretty cumbersome. The bar you were mentioning is indeed usefull, but can get messy and clutter things up alot, i find that the easiest way to mount stuff is to move over to fatbar or just regular 22mm bar with a riser adapter. Looks alot neater too and provides a more comfortable riding position.

QUOTE(hr_elie @ Nov 26 2021, 11:32 PM)
just to chip in here.

clean the maf sensor insiode the air filter box. i diagnosed it something wrong with the maf voltage thru obd.

happen to my friend's dominar d400. this is due to air-fuel mixture backflow during throttle closure, thus contaminate the sensor. the sensor is bosch sensor.

just buy throttle body cleaner from mr diy will do.

ecu need to read the amount of air coming in, the contaminated sensor give erratic reading thus the problem.
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Also to add, we discovered multiple v1 and v2 user having this problem which leads back to water seeping into their tank. Early signs are rust spotted along the lips opening under the tank lid. The MAF sensor would definite go haywire when your fuel mix is contaminated with water. Light cases gives occasional stutter, most user reports problem going away after refuelling couple of times. In a severe case, the bike wouldnt even idle and was vibrating harder than an excavator when throttle forcefully opened to keep engine running and the exhaust smells aweful. A full tank flush was needed and the issue went away. Do check if you happen to have this, if you do, i suggest finding an o-ring the size of your rubber flange on the lid seal and place it under the seal to further reinforce sealing.

QUOTE(goldmine @ Nov 27 2021, 12:43 AM)
if you guys are open sunday, i'll drop by with my coupon
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Yep we open daily for now. See you on sunday :smile:
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post Nov 27 2021, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(Vi Merkz @ Nov 27 2021, 02:02 AM)
Ye thats me and that black NS is mine :rofl:

I havent started stocking up on windshields, most windshield for the NS are installed over the stock "windshield", which i find rather filmsy. Theres this guy, windbro selling the bracket, its sturdy, but offers very little in terms of angle adjustment and looks pretty cumbersome. The bar you were mentioning is indeed usefull, but can get messy and clutter things up alot, i find that the easiest way to mount stuff is to move over to fatbar or just regular 22mm bar with a riser adapter. Looks alot neater too and provides a more comfortable riding position.
Also to add, we discovered multiple v1 and v2 user having this problem which leads back to water seeping into their tank. Early signs are rust spotted along the lips opening under the tank lid. The MAF sensor would definite go haywire when your fuel mix is contaminated with water. Light cases gives occasional stutter, most user reports problem going away after refuelling couple of times. In a severe case, the bike wouldnt even idle and was vibrating harder than an excavator when throttle forcefully opened to keep engine running and the exhaust smells aweful. A full tank flush was needed and the issue went away. Do check if you happen to have this, if you do, i suggest finding an o-ring the size of your rubber flange on the lid seal and place it under the seal to further reinforce sealing.
Yep we open daily for now. See you on sunday :smile:
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i see. thanks for the insight. will check on my friends.

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