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post Jun 2 2022, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(yvliew @ Jun 1 2022, 06:07 PM)
well Terra UST and LUNA are different from actual scams like this Triumph FX. Although I would say different for Anchor Protocol which is like a ponzi. But Triumph FX will stay as long as there are more ppl going in and pumping money in.. right? As I know if you want to cash out, their fees is extremely high and it's recommended to "sell" your USD to another user without fees. So TriumphFX actually don't need take out any money to pay their users.

Depends how greedy the ppl behind TriumphFX is, the greedier the longer they might be around.. My friend keep say they are around for 10 years... is it true??
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Although I would say different for Anchor Protocol which is like a ponzi. But Triumph FX will stay as long as there are more ppl going in and pumping money in.. right?

A Ponzi scheme is an investment fraud that pays existing investors with funds collected from new investors.

They are both the same..

They can still be around 10 years later, or they can still be around 1 month later, or they can still be around 1 week later. Noone knows except the Triumph's owners.. But... we don't even know who the owners are..


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post Jun 2 2022, 05:42 PM

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The thing about Triumphfx is.. they claimed their fund is managed by fund managers like.. Tokyo's Finests... Yuri Rothenberg... Guardian Management Capital, AMG Capital, Nikolay Divinsky... there isn't ANY info that we can find about these funds.. Any info that we can currently find in the internet are released by Triumph and Triumph only... That's the biggest red flag for me.
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post Jun 7 2022, 05:46 PM

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I have been with them for 2 cycles. Managed to earned some and decided to withdraw everything out cos I smell the end game is getting nearer and nearer. After 3 years, I earned around 13%, not that bad but this question keeps lingering.. Who the hell are those fund managers? Fancy name but can't find their info. For TFXI supporters, I hope you can ask them about this.
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post Jun 7 2022, 05:47 PM

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Sorry, can't edit my post. After **2 cycles**...
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post Jun 8 2022, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(kinnasai @ Jun 8 2022, 09:44 AM)
I also have been investing since 2014 in TFXI, had made tonne of money.
Any 1 who still believe this TFXI, you are totally on the right investment path. Pls ignore those negative comments from this topic. Better news for you as TFXI investor, i got another better platform which offering ROI 8%~15% monthly (YES, DOUBLE of TFXI's), and lock-in period is only 3 weeks, pls PM me for more details if you're keen.
I'm giving you a chance to be much more better, if you r riding a Honda Cub now, in 3 year times, Porche will be your daily drive.. ooh nono, it's Porsche, typo error..... If you are masturbatxing by own hand now, in 3 years time, you will have different human holeS to use everyday.... Let the better skill FX investors to generate money for you....
PM me....
When you jump from rooftop in future, i will burn you tonne of money... no worries.... money guarantee...
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I have a guaranteed 16% return a month too. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Daily return, and can be withdrawn everyday, but very high risk and dodgy. PM tepi.
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post Jun 27 2022, 06:39 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vItS-msPtY

I notice their youtube doesn't allow comments. Fishy..
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post Aug 19 2022, 02:44 PM

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Wanna ask a question.. If TFXI is willing to provide us with EA form for our tax submission, what implication will that bring to the table, both of legality and validity?

Once again just asking, TFXI probably can't and won't since its not based in Malaysia. but IF they were..


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post Aug 19 2022, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 19 2022, 02:09 PM)
If you had "experienced" 7-8% ROI each month & real money being withdrawn for 18 months without issues and having seen your money inside the tfxi accounts still has alot if accumulated $$.  Will you not have confidence to put more $$ in and also tell your family members about that golden goose?
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Hmm, actually this technique is called capital retention.. Stock holders do the same as well. Even business owners with stable business income.

No, I'm not a TFXI investor or supporter nor am I considering investing in TFXI..

Just that I'm tempted to answer this question.

As a matter of fact, if you are willing to put 2k in an investment that can generate monthly 7%, and just let it run for 5 weeks. you will get 7%.. That's 140 return.. withdraw your capital of 2k.. just let the 140 run for 10 years, you will get 173k..

If they run in between, too bad, but expected because you are greedy to let it run for 10 years.. but either way, you won't loose a dime..

Not taken in consideration the withdrawal fees if any, or any other charges..

Hahaha...
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post Aug 19 2022, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 19 2022, 02:50 PM)
According to this site, 
https://www.sql.com.my/sqlpayroll/eaform/

What Is EA Form / Borang EA?
EA form is a Yearly Remuneration Statement for private employees that includes your salary for the past year. EA form is used for the filing of personal taxes during tax season.

Triumphfx is not in employer employee relationship with you.  Thus I don't think they will give you EA form
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Hmm, I beg to differ.. My company issues EA form to non-employed agents whom introduce us customers. As we pay them referral fees. And it's also good for us to offset our tax as operation expenditure.
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post Aug 19 2022, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 19 2022, 03:07 PM)

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It's called capital retention for a reason.. You want to retain your capital.. At one point, be in 1 month, or 10 years, you would need to take out the capital right? Otherwise what's the point investing if you don't intend to use the generated money?

Don't just take anyone's word on the surface only.. When one says it's a money one can afford to loose, it doesn't mean they are hell bent on loosing this money..

It's like the banker telling the FD investor, auntie, you put your money in FD and lock for 1 year only? Since you don't need this money for the next 1 year, you won't need this money 10 years later also.

Even in stocks, one should buy with money one can loose.. That is why margin loan is so dangerous..

If an investor doesn't have any sense of capital preservation, then any investment, be it a money game or a dividend stock won't work for him.
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post Aug 19 2022, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(kinnasai @ Aug 19 2022, 03:15 PM)
Yeah, u r rite.

Only if you really withdrawing your original invested amount, after the fund double after 10~11 cycles (ard 1 year later)... and if TFXI still giving out money after 10~11 cycle lah....
And, how many fund contributors will really withdraw the original amount? Most of them will be more greedy and looking for the fund to be rolling bigger and bigger (number in the account) by maybe only test withdrawing money for self-believing the fund is on legit platform......

for TFXI very simple, only when the Actual Money in the pool running negative, means times to wrap the business..... Then, some of the fund contributor will just cry, but some may just wait @ 18th floor below to wait for the money burnt to them.....

Forex is a just a simple zero sum games. If there is a margin taker from the currency trade, means there will be a sohai losing on currency trade... Maybe some TFXI sales person will tell you, the currency trade is so damn complicated only expert will know how....USD, Pound, Euro, Yen, keep trading and invest, that's why Pakistan Rupee droping like helll..... bla bla bla....

I really hope those who keep promoting this TFXI can die faster, as fast as possible..... And TFXI promoter, pls send me a letter of defamation if i'm damaging your platform... Oh no, NOT IF, indeed YES i seriously cursing TFXI promoter can DIE FASTER, and soonest possible.
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Yea man.. totally agreeing with you.. Like I mention in my previous post, if one doesn't have a game plan.. it doesn't matter what sort of investment, be it TFXI, or FD, it won't yield any better quality of life in the end.

It's exactly how money game works.. they tap on the greediness of human... the money find money.. So, just be smarter than them..

Ahh, I thought of an example...

I buy Toto for RM10.. I won RM15,000... So I buy again at RM15,000 again... I lose this time... so I'm still RM10 poorer.. But if I'm not greedy, I buy RM10 again... I lose.. I'm still RM14,980 richer..
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post Aug 19 2022, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 19 2022, 03:28 PM)
The example you used does not hv scams in the making warning sign flashing..
Not the same products for capital retentions or can afford to loses money concept that triumphfx promoters used here.  They referred to it as gambling money.
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So does Toto bro... so does Genting... So does bet365...

to a more extreme point, so does insurance companies.. it's all the Law of Large Numbers.

Difference between Insurance and Money Game is one pays in instalment, another pays lump sum upfront.
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post Aug 19 2022, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 19 2022, 03:50 PM)

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I did. smile.gif I was in for 2 cycles. then I'd withdrawn all out.. So stop being so condescending. I totally understanding your nobility but it seems like you are hell bent on seeing this crash.. It's like a personal vendetta because you have guts smaller than them...

Anyway, The reason I withdrawn was because I felt their trades patterns are very dodgy.. The lack of transparency too was a decisive factor..

I did not let greed cloud my judgement.. and I would happily put back my return into it to let it run for 10 years since I got nothing to loose now.. But why would I? I'm 13% richer now.. So in your words, I'm smarter than them..
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post Aug 19 2022, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 19 2022, 03:56 PM)
So now you are telling that this triumpfx is gambling platform?.
Investing in triumphfx is not possible as a passive returns but All your money placed in it can be lost too?  Just like toto?

Toto = game of luck = gambling
Triumpfx = gambling too
You are very correct 👍👍
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Yea man.. Call it gambling if this provides you closure. And reflecting this back to you, longing Serbak is also a gambling ... lol...

Stop twisting words and coming out with your own pretext. You are going full blown Amber Heard already.

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post Aug 19 2022, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 19 2022, 05:53 PM)

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I'm not defending TFXI. You can see from my previous post even in Jun, I had totally declined TFXI.. Yes, I do think TFXI is a money game and it will burst eventually.. I can list down all the red flags that I'm sure you will happily agree with me. That I'm very align with you, and that we are on the same boat..

It's just weird that you are cursing and ranting about others' decision with your bias emotions.. even belittling them as if you are superior...

Just look at yourself... Just because I do not agree with your points, I'm automatically labelled as a defender of TFXI.


(serba dinamik still hv some money left, triumphfx if burst, ... All money gone with no hope of getting any back.)

Serba yes, if that's the case, so is Luno coins... Triumph... That is WHY I said if one is intending to go in knowing they are a money game, go in with a game plan...

If they don't even realize it's a money game... then there is no hope no matter how educative you are here to them...

But no... deep down, you sadistically hope they crash, and everyone else die with them... You are not being very 'MUM' at all...


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post Aug 19 2022, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(eyerule @ Aug 19 2022, 09:08 PM)
doesn't seem like that though. present the facts not personal attacks.

people want to believe what they want to believe you can't stop them. as long as you put forward information, what they do with it is their own responsibility
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Lol... He MUM sounds more like a jealous person to be very honest. Look at how he keeps challenging people to put more money and retaining the capital in it.. Even when Topglove was shooting up like no tomorrow, a sound investor with all the positive facts would be defensive and retain the capital in participation of the fall, and surely it did...
Those that had done so, wouldn't be banging their balls right now as TG's price nosedives this year.. Because it is still profit, albeit diminishing.. but hell, profit is still profit...

People do it there, and yet, TFXI believers can't do it here.. That shows how naive of an investor he is...

If he is so noble about saving souls, why don't you go camp at Toto and Magnum outlets? No, he prefers to be a keyboard devil..

If someone resolving to personal attack on the ground of sharing knowledge, I rest my case...


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post Aug 19 2022, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(aaa_batteries @ Aug 19 2022, 09:36 PM)
We get it. As long as it doesn't hurt you too much, it's fine. You are willing to lose what you put in and hopefully make some out of it.

For others who lost their retirement fund, lifetime savings or education fund, it's their problems because they invested or gambled on their own choices, after you have told them it's risky.

This kind of mentality is what's keeping the scheme going and when burst then tough luck to those people who lost everything and provided you with the passive incomes.

I am not saying you are wrong but just pointing out all kinds of human characters.
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Yea man... it's a zero sum game... When someone is 1 dollar richer, another person is 1 dollar poorer...

I'm not supporting money game... and yes, people can die from it... but if I campaign against them, I would rather start from casinos.. Because the odds are always in favour of the banker., and it's written in black and white..



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post Aug 20 2022, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 19 2022, 10:46 PM)
The simple logic it is not promoted as gambling, ... But promoted a constant sure win 7-8% monthly passive income.  If it is so good,  Then why not put more in?

If it is promoted as a money game where the time will come where all money will be lost when burst,  then don't put in as you may not be that lucky.

If you are prepared to lose,  then why take out when you start to win? It is money that you had prepared to lose.

As I mentioned earlier, I am OK if it is, just promote as money games where it can burst any time where there is no guaranteed of constant passive income.
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You are oddly stubborn... It is a game plan.... Noone invested in ANYTHING or TFXI will sell car, sell house to buy into their favourite investment.. But I'm not gonna answer you on this anymore since you are programmed without an input option.. Like many have noticed here, it's like you against the world... Have a good life being a hater... Manipulative and not wanting to accept opinion of others.. Oh ya, salad is good for health. Go start hoarding them since that's what you are programmed to be..
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post Aug 26 2022, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(Madgeiser @ Aug 26 2022, 05:57 PM)
This is actually very true, I notice this too.  Says Vanuatu license is crap,  then when they gave up Vanuatu and got Cysec,  says Cysec is crap and suddenly Vanuatu is good.

This is not the only case BTW, there is others. It is nice to be in the background reading.  I also agree that most poster here in the forum has mob mentality and not very objective.
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Agree with you.. It's very very bias and manipulative, unobjective.. Come out with a statement that does not agree with one, and you are immediately labelled as anti or pro... Even cursing our family.. These few LY members here (you know who) at another thread cursed the family of a member's recently deceased member.. How rude and uncivilised.

ApekMiddleAge's experiment was really on point and it goes to prove how this forum is not a forum anymore but a display of self-proclaimed wise men...

I'm very sure even this post will be labelled...

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post Aug 30 2022, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 30 2022, 06:22 AM)
for me to consider "if something is too good to be true, ..." decision making process,
other than just focusing on the results, i would include additional factors like, the number of times it happened with in a period of time...
sort of like consistency of it happening.

without statistic, thus i just think, many that had gone to Genting would at times also happened to be able to win 200 or 300 with a capital of 100

not sure if this Vesbolt Inspecto is a pro trading entities or not ....
looking at the results of the monthly performance from the image borrowed from post 642,...there seems to have some DULL periods at certain times every year when compared to their "normal".
if YES, they are Pro Trader,...then i guess even this pro does not have consistency in that "normal" monthly returns too.

Then i really respect those self DIY traders that can make 20% ROI monthly every month.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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It might be a deliberate plan by them to make you trust their 'inconsistency'? It looks very hindsight and foretold too, which is good to market its' inconsistency..

Pitching: 'We are not a scam... look at our results.. it's not consistent.. Which is why you should trust Vesbolt... and don't worry that it's a bad month, the previous month was a good month, and next month will be better month too....'

From that 36 months, it's actually 9.7% return per month on average...

Isn't this 'too 'better' to be true'?

Since its so good, would you advise me to go all in with money I'm ready to lose, and then don't EVER take it out and let it roll until... don't know... if I'm ready to lose it now, I'm ready to lose in FOREVER.

Yea, maybe it doesn't have the MLM aspect to it, but not every scam is MLM... vise versa not every MLM is a scam..

P.S. I'm not a supporter of TFXI nor critic of TFXI.. its just not my cup of tea.. Gonna put this disclaimer to remind the bashers here...

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