according to presentations and testimonial, i do believe the investment got benefit many people and families before 

many of them have gotten passive income with the RM / USD EXCHANGE method and actually no need pays USD100

it seems not EVERYONE is loosing money, i plan to join not getting any downline. and my upline got say many do not even have downline, just get 7% every 5 week, and many even dump in a lot e.g. RM100k and get back a big RM in 5 week, the money used for family or kids or house... NOT EVERYONE is victims, and A LOT GAIN BENEFIT  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

On this, "The adventure not yet ends... If only when it burst... Then it will ends"

So y judge something that u guys are totally involved in. u have not even open to read the book, just see see look look from cover and tittle already says almost 100% its a scam if not 1000%.

No one in this forum even says they lost money, cannot do withdrawal, only late and higher charges for exch. rate or charges.

those guys that i've inform them about this tfx, i told them exactly what i felt, too good too be true while at the same time too good to just ignore it, go google and read up, own risk own appetite, no blame culture.
replying to that idiot that argue on my CONFIRMED = DEATH alone!!!  Oi bangang/bodoh, banyak org lari tax ok, banyak org also tak greedy ok, saya greedy but not all around me are greedy BUT SEMUA AKAN MATI, pekak badak la kau, itu logic pun tak paham, bodoh piang.

Above give me one more bad karma no issue la, already cursed and labelled by "holier than u" as bad and cockroaches of society ma................

yes i think it is a rich people game, i don't achieve that level yet as my friend's friend    so i don't put a lot.. i guessing they even put 200k .. imagine get rm14000 passive income every 5 week.        but for me no such saving in my whole accounts la hahahha    so will be conservative TFXI investor 

Wanna ask a question.. If TFXI is willing to provide us with EA form for our tax submission, what implication will that bring to the table, both of legality and validity?

Once again just asking, TFXI probably can't and won't since its not based in Malaysia. but IF they were..

Hmm, actually this technique is called capital retention.. Stock holders do the same as well. Even business owners with stable business income.
(Business owners that do the same will not do it with business failure sign flashing in the face or having known unsustainable returns to pay out to investors)
No, I'm not a TFXI investor or supporter nor am I considering investing in TFXI..

Just that I'm tempted to answer this question.

As a matter of fact, if you are willing to put 2k in an investment that can generate monthly 7%, and just let it run for 5 weeks. you will get 7%.. That's 140 return.. withdraw your capital of 2k.. just let the 140 run for 10 years, you will get 173k..
(why would should he withdraw that 2k when it was "gambling"  money or the money he had already afford to set aside to lose)
If they run in between, too bad, but expected because you are greedy to let it run for 10 years.. but either way, you won't loose a dime..
(won't loose a dime except the money he deposited after the initial deposits and again after collected and accumulated the monthly returns he had gotten trom it).
Again If he had "experienced" 7-8% ROI each month & real money being withdrawn for 24 months without issues and having seen his money inside the tfxi accounts still has alot of accumulated $$.  Will he not have confidence to put more $$ in and also tell his family members about that golden goose? I don't see he can constraint himself of not doing that after 2 yrs... Not to mention if it was in 10 years scenario as you had used.
Not taken in consideration the withdrawal fees if any, or any other charges..
(BTW,  there is now no more usd100 for each withdraw as informed recently. They can by pass triumphfx by doing transfer of money to other "buyer"  that pay the seller ( withdrawal) directly.)
Hahaha...

Hmm, I beg to differ.. My company issues EA form to non-employed agents whom introduce us customers. As we pay them referral fees. And it's also good for us to offset our tax as operation expenditure.

It's called capital retention for a reason.. You want to retain your capital.. At one point, be in 1 month, or 10 years, you would need to take out the capital right? Otherwise what's the point investing if you don't intend to use the generated money?

Don't just take anyone's word on the surface only.. When one says it's a money one can afford to loose, it doesn't mean they are hell bent on loosing this money..

It's like the banker telling the FD investor, auntie, you put your money in FD and lock for 1 year only? Since you don't need this money for the next 1 year, you won't need this money 10 years later also.

Even in stocks, one should buy with money one can loose.. That is why margin loan is so dangerous..

If an investor doesn't have any sense of capital preservation, then any investment, be it a money game or a dividend stock won't work for him.

Pinjam your quote but should extend the curse to their entire family.

Those who continue to promote and perpertuate this scam ... 

Yea man.. totally agreeing with you.. Like I mention in my previous post, if one doesn't have a game plan.. it doesn't matter what sort of investment, be it TFXI, or FD, it won't yield any better quality of life in the end.
(Putting money in kwsp or sspn or ASNB fp funds does not need a game plan... Just let the returns compunded)
It's exactly how money game works.. they tap on the greediness of human... the money find money.. So, just be smarter than them..
(mind sharing how to be smarter than triumpfx when you don't know how long it will last and also the constant present of human greed.
When one started with triumphfx with greed and after 2 yrs of having seen his greed had been handsomely rewarded.  What will make him stop his Greed again? )

Ahh, I thought of an example...

I buy Toto for RM10.. I won RM15,000... So I buy again at RM15,000 again... I lose this time... so I'm still RM10 poorer.. But if I'm not greedy, I buy RM10 again... I lose.. I'm still RM14,980 richer..
(only if he stopped,  but if he did not,  it will be gone soon. So are triumpfx investors that had invested for more than 2 years get off before it burst.... But will he?.. Most probably he will continue to put money in.  Just like the toto buyer)

So does Toto bro... so does Genting... So does bet365...

to a more extreme point, so does insurance companies.. it's all the Law of Large Numbers.

Difference between Insurance and Money Game is one pays in instalment, another pays lump sum upfront.

I did. I was in for 2 cycles. then I'd withdrawn all out.. So stop being so condescending. I totally understanding your nobility but it seems like you are hell bent on seeing this crash.. It's like a personal vendetta because you have guts smaller than them...
(If i hv guts smaller than them,  perhaps I was not like you,  I forsee without having to go inside to fel that their trade patterns are very doggy n lack of transparency just like you had experienced)
Anyway, The reason I withdrawn was because I felt their trades patterns are very dodgy.. The lack of transparency too was a decisive factor..

I did not let greed cloud my judgement.. and I would happily put back my return into it to let it run for 10 years since I got nothing to loose now.. But why would I? I'm 13% richer now.. So in your words, I'm smarter than them..
(smarter than them that exited after only 2 cycles with 13% profits... To those that had been with triumphfx much longer would be saying you are more stupid n more gut less than them)

Yea man.. Call it gambling if this provides you closure. And reflecting this back to you, longing Serbak is also a gambling ... lol...
(serba dinamik still hv some money left,  triumphfx if burst, ... All money gone with no hope of getting any back.)
Stop twisting words and coming out with your own pretext. You are going full blown Amber Heard already.
(stop defending  triumpfx with something that is not justifiable like comparing triumphfx with gambling to make a case that it is a product that can put money in like buying toto or buying stocks.)

I'm not defending TFXI. You can see from my previous post even in Jun, I had totally declined TFXI.. Yes, I do think TFXI is a money game and it will burst eventually.. I can list down all the red flags that I'm sure you will happily agree with me. That I'm very align with you, and that we are on the same boat..

It's just weird that you are cursing and ranting about others' decision with your bias emotions.. even belittling them as if you are superior...

Just look at yourself... Just because I do not agree with your points, I'm automatically labelled as a defender of TFXI.

(Do you realised that &  also looked at yourself,  just bcos I countered your every posts you posted ...

"Stop twisting words and coming out with your own pretext. You are going full blown Amber Heard already."

Isnt it,  you had automatically labelled me as a..... or something??)

(serba dinamik still hv some money left,  triumphfx if burst, ... All money gone with no hope of getting any back.)

Serba yes, if that's the case, so is Luno coins... Triumph... That is WHY I said if one is intending to go in knowing they are a money game, go in with a game plan...
(previously when you post, " So, just be smarter than them". I asked, ..
mind sharing how to be smarter than triumpfx when you don't know how long it will last and also the constant present of human greed.
When one started with triumphfx with greed and after 2 yrs of having seen his greed had been handsomely rewarded.  What will make him stop his Greed again? ..
I am still waiting for that answers.
Now instead of "be smarter than them"  you used  "go in with a game plan"... Then an slmost similar question...
mind sharing how to have and implement a game plan in triumpfx when you don't know how long it will last and also the constant present of human greed.
When one started with triumphfx with greed and after 2 yrs of having seen his greed had been handsomely rewarded.  What will make him stop his Greed again? ..)
If they don't even realize it's a money game... then there is no hope no matter how educative you are here to them...
(so you are saying triumphfx is a money game equate it to gambling)
But no... deep down, you sadistically hope they crash, and everyone else die with them... You are not being very 'MUM' at all...
(If triumphfx is like what you mentioned as a money game or gambling instead of a passive income investment product.  Then it is inline with the intention of my postings here... To warn others about thinking that this Triumphfx is like those promoters preached it to be a constanttly 7-8% every 5 weeks cycle passive income things... It is not but a scam that can burst)

Probably no balls and are envy of those making money out of a scam in the making before it burst kua.....nak tapi takder telur, so hope everyone else becomes poor lo but it's not MUM, he already very politely condemn everyone in tfx, ada lagi those mor jialat...hahaha

aiyo, if u just willing to go to the website to see the license, its there, fake or not i dunno and dont care because i am greedy. I know what i am walking in to, and know the risk involved. Like i said earlier, no one really promote tfx, at least here in this forum, most are just sharing info from their personal experience and friends stories after being hogwash as a 100% scam or 100% scam in the making.

Chris_Inch did logically laid out all the details, he is being quite fair, he was into it, he made 13% and he felt it was doggy and he came out. and he is 13% richer than before.
(just asking,  if you refer to his post abt that 13%, he quited it bcos of reasons he found.  Do you not fear of those reasons and do you see those reasons in triumphfx too? )
I'm in it but not yet out. not out means not yet make, its simple fact and i know this, its like people keep saying shares dropped, no worries, no sell means no lose, only paper lost. here is exactly the opposite, its only paper win until one withdraws his full capital and only "invest"/"gamble" with his profit.

Nothing pao win one. At least i'm the only one here that is admitting that i'm into this bcoz of greed altho i have a 50 50 feeling its a money game. And that karma shit dont matter to me because i dont promote it, to me its exactly like i buy my 4D number and hope it comes out and hope everyone else number lose.

U keep mentioning after syiok, how to withdraw capital, golden goose. Everything has a limit, greed also needs limitation, self control, if cannot then too bad for the person la. no one force him. if he listen to his promoter/upline believing everything he says blindly then his problem la............(if he did not believes his up lines,  he would not have tried it.  If he got sweets and had been enjoying those sweetness constantly for 24 months,  I am sure he will believes more of what the up lines tell him or cursed that why he had not met his up lines years earlier)

Self discipline / control is the key, but yes, u argued then dunno when burst, i agree thats y i labelled it directly as gambling. i dont twist my words or feelings.

honestly i don't know why you are so gung ho about arguing with people on tfxi. yes you put up your facts etc. but why argue?

they still want to do let them do lo. you already put out the facts. smoking is bad, still people smoke. let them be la.

i don't understand why you so hardcore attacking them all the time. it's their money let them do what they want

Lol... He MUM sounds more like a jealous person to be very honest. Look at how he keeps challenging people to put more money and retaining the capital in it.. Even when Topglove was shooting up like no tomorrow, a sound investor with all the positive facts would be defensive and retain the capital in participation of the fall, and surely it did...

Those that had done so, wouldn't be banging their balls right now as TG's price nosedives this year.. Because it is still profit, albeit diminishing.. but hell, profit is still profit...
(everyone knows that stock price can go up n down, ... But those that promoted TFXI as a constant ROI every month... That is a difference between STOCK n TFXI)
People do it there, and yet, TFXI believers can't do it here.. That shows how naive of an investor he is...
(they can but don't promote it as sure constant 7-8% every month)
If he is so noble about saving souls, why don't you go camp at Toto and Magnum outlets? No, he prefers to be a keyboard devil..
( those that do toto or magnum know what they are getting into... It is gambling and not sure win)
If someone resolving to personal attack on the ground of sharing knowledge, I rest my case...