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koaydarren
post Oct 5 2022, 10:32 PM

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There are many people starting to complain about being not able to withdraw the money or extremely late withdrawal from the platform. Anyone is experiencing the same?
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post Oct 23 2022, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(BC3232 @ Oct 23 2022, 06:53 PM)
You are the 1 who told earlier : IT FROM OBTAINED FROM YURI"S ACTUAL ACCOOUNT. Then something goes worng and post another not trusthwotrthy?
You are full of s..t

Since OBTAINED FROM YURI"S ACTUAL ACCOOUNT why got problem。

obtain synonyms: Get, acquired  and etc
Actual synonyms : true, genuine, authentic , confirmed and ETC.

SO 1 time post this is authentic record, becuase people can withdraw money, then when people question...oh is not correct.

YOU OWN WORDS !!!! YOUR QUOTE!!!! YOU ARE TRYING TO PROVE THE INVESTMENT IS GENUINE.
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Bro, people invested in and have been actively recruiting people into this scheme. You want people to admit its a ponzi scheme? To be honest, as long as this sheme does not burst, we can never confirm that. Save you energy and come back later only when "if" it burst.

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post Nov 8 2022, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Nov 8 2022, 11:51 AM)
that's why u need to read my reply above.
yes, u can transfer to bank fetch good rate. well if u can think of that, average joe also does that. and because of that many people starting to withdraw to bank. and causing so call "bank run" on TFX side? i don't know but now withdrawal had been halt and also mention officially in their email "slow process" in withdrawal. or perhaps tfx invest the cash in some form of investment paper that not liquid enough? i don't know. but it check the flag when some project rugpull. like celsius stopping withdrawal.

but still i'm not 100% sure yet it is gone. i also invest some money half year ago. but the money i afford to lose la.
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You are right. This situation is exactly same like three arrows capital and Terra where they first slow down the withdrawal process significantly, and then stop withdrawal entirely. Because its not regulated, siphoning out the money from the platform entirely is not impossible.
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post Nov 8 2022, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Nov 8 2022, 12:40 PM)
but this kind of losing peg is a death spiral. the TFX USD will continue to losing the value as time goes by and the people request bank withdrawal will keep growing. So when TFX available to perform withdrawal, the amount to withdraw become way way bigger. If they can't swallow that, then situation continue to worsen. So now the only solution is TFX really have earn that $ and able to pay off users. and it take some time to prove that so that TFX can back to normal again.
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Although the official withdrawal directly from the TFX platform is halted or very slow, at least TFX users can still get their money back via P2P. This is the reason why they need to have a master or upline to handle their downlines because internal transfers can be done easily when u have a big team handled by the master. U can join the telegram or WhatsApp groups. New joiners will feed the old members' withdrawals.
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post Nov 8 2022, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Nov 8 2022, 01:20 PM)
yes u can do that. but have a macro view, so call P2P the fund still circulating within TFX. it continue creating the pressure that people go for bank withdrawal as P2P rate already below USD value. at this situation, if u have fund u still will go collect cheap usd in p2p group? if TFX didn't resolve the withdrawal issue asap, the P2P group will continue trade lower and lower USD rate. until it go zero.
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However, we might be wrong. TFX could be really generating huge profits from its trading activities and manage to consistently distribute the profits to TFX users. Then withdrawal issues could be really due to IT issues. Otherwise, the crash could be sooner than we expected. But if we think rationality, the entire world is facing a financial crisis. How to consistently generating 7% per cycle is still a miracle to me even if you are a hedge master or investor. I guess I should excuse myself from commenting to avoid being attacked.
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post Nov 9 2022, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(BC3232 @ Nov 9 2022, 11:22 AM)
The question is about: the supply (Inflow) < demand ( Outflow). It's the huge gap that is causing the withdrawal delay.  Getting a TFX coin and you need to queue to get your coin converted to USDT, doesn't solve the issue.
The supply is still less than the demand.

Why not from now on, the broker just returns and accepts the money using either USDT or a bank transfer? I am very sure that investors are willing to pay for all the transaction costs !!!!!

Oh, by the way: They claim they have a total of 10 billion Funds with them. I assume all FMs did 1 transaction per 5 weeks and were charged a brokering fee of  0.001 percent (buy and sell), the broker fee s 1 million USD for every 5 weeks.
With that amount of broker fees, I think they can afford a customer service team to handle all the withdrawal issues easily.
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Even FTX world second largest crypto exchange is collapsing. Imagine if the new coin is not backed by real money. It will collapse instantly. Luna and UST used to peg with 1 to 1usd, but collapsed immediately.

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post Nov 11 2022, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Nov 11 2022, 01:24 PM)
Proven?

Doesn't make sense.

Ir seems to suggest those trading are by chance. Lucky then cabut profit. If not loss. But so coincident, always for 80% win rate.

Normal traders specify a specific trend then bet on it and put a stop loss and let winners win. To say close position at 1% up or down doesn't make sense.

Like this. Anyone can do it then. Why bed traders to do for you.

Repeat that scenario to your friends in finance or even normal people, see it makes sense or not
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My friend who invest in this scheme also realised this unusual win and lose rates, capping at consistently 7% returns. Handling 10billions usd funds with only 7 staff doesn't make sense at all. Imagine Affin Bank with only less than 10 staff 🤣.

This is already a big sign of collapsing when you csnt withdraw your money for more than a month. Forex trading should be a very high liquidity activities. Hopefully, all the investors including my friends manage to get back their money ASAP.

Please do not trust ur upline or Ceo, even FTX ceo claimed that their company is totally good, and the next day the company stopped all the withdrawals. Use your common sense and logic with investments.

This post has been edited by koaydarren: Nov 11 2022, 01:34 PM
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post Nov 13 2022, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(vanguish @ Nov 13 2022, 09:23 AM)
sorry i didn't read through all the pages, only last few pages.

They already doing that earlier, all this while as I was told more than 90% of the withdrawals is already been processed via P2P, profits and withdrawals selling to new investors not coming from actual USD. All these while the system been functioning like internal circulation USD only.

"Value will drop ÷10??.I thought there was a mention in a chart earlier of projected rise to 5USD?", this must be a joke of the year.

I highly doubt the value will even stay at 1:1 after people realize what the actual meaning of conversion to TRX means.

Supply: will increase by 10% (comm+profits) every month due to good performance FMs.

Demand: only internally use for TF investment.

A crypto whereby the supply will increase exponentially and limited adoptability, more likely to go /10 after few months rather than $5 la.

** i just got a text from my friend after they read my comment. He said i got the idea wrong. **
** correction **

** TRX is for withdrawal, means all withdrawals now will be either in TRX of you can sell to new member like current P2P system. The system will not force convert from USD to TRX. All will be still display as USD as currently, but the deposit method will be limited to "Buying USD from other ppl via P2P" or with in TRX crypto. All other deposit method will be disabled, only can deposit via old USD in the system or TRX (as mentioned earlier in the thread). He said the quantity of TRX will not increase because the system, did not convert into TRX, it's still display as USD points. he said the company will mint only 10B TRX, the company will be holding it and use to pay those that cant sell their USD to new victims by TRX.

So the TRX crypto will be a instrument used to facilitate global p2p. currently the p2p is taking place among individual group with their upline. With the implementation of TRX, now the P2P is globalize and can take place from any member to any member.

Company rich, no need process withdrawal anymore.
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Seriously? What you described is pretty dangerous. The situation is exactly like FTX and Alameda. The value of FTT is supported by own internal transfers and has no actual value.
TFX is very smart because they encourage internal transfer only and discourage direct withdrawals (delay until u find a buyer for your funds) with withdrawal fees.

Honestly, who invented this system is a genius. Because the account and trading activities are not publicly available, the possibility of mass withdrawal due to bad news is very low. Hence, it will no burst at all unless its hacked.
koaydarren
post Nov 30 2022, 12:45 PM

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The three musketeers are laughing at us and enjoying their millions of profits while seeing our comments bashing TFX! Deeply regretted I never joined this.

This post has been edited by koaydarren: Nov 30 2022, 12:46 PM
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post Dec 8 2022, 07:35 PM

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Why you guys are so concerned about the withdrawal and bashing them! They are still earning 7% per cycle while waiting to withdraw the money. Their wealth is still increasing without losing any money!
koaydarren
post Dec 10 2022, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Dec 10 2022, 01:28 PM)
I see the WhatsApp group, leader mention buy at 0.7 untung. coz Monday 8am tfx buy back at 1usd and profit 40% in few days. no need wait 1 cycle.
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Hahaha, why don't the leaders all in themselves?
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post Dec 14 2022, 12:57 PM

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In fact, once tfx moved everything to crypto, it means they have returned all the money to the investors, since they are forced to transfer. Whether or not the tfx coins worth the original value, that's another story. Many are still in the dream land.
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post Dec 15 2022, 07:28 PM

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I'm not so sure why they said this scheme existed in 2013. I only heard of this 2 years back in Malaysia. The history of MBI or JJPTR repeats itself. Few more months or weeks they will claim that the server is hacked. I'm surprised there are so many elderly invested in this on Facebook. They don't even understand investment fundamentals and block chain technology. Some even ordered tfx how to manage the withdrawal process 😂. All the red flags have shown this is problematic, but many still do not believe. That's shocking.
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post Dec 17 2022, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 17 2022, 07:15 PM)
Announcement : Solution advise

Big upline Malaysia speech

“Nola, one thing is I think all of us will agree is to flush out all the speculators are. Right. A lot of IB, you know, I know they are promoting it the wrong way and that's why I never agreed to certain leaders the matter that they are doing things. Right. So, did you bring in a small apple? You spoil the whole basket, right? Majority is doing it. You know, treating as a money game coming in here. I want to make fast money here. Come on, let's go. Right. So, one thing is, yeah, bad apples. Right. But another thing is trying is still fixing. Yeah, because I might be most of them are putting pressure on them. They have to fix it and how they fix it, right. The lesson learned is that, you know, Ibis should be learned how to select right people to invest and teach the proper things. That is one thing, right? But we just need to wait. We can't push, we don't know when, we don't know how. Just let them do it. But our end, we just need to strategize and do whatever we need, right, to get the cash for those people who need to pay their liabilities. Right. Treat it as this week. A small profit, 2 to 3% or too bad, like James. It's still good cash flow, right. It's still cash flow where in the world right now you can get a cash flow in the investment market, none for I see right now none, right there is, but there is no consistency in, but never mind, we will continue to shop around if there is in the future no harm, right. But in the end right now there are five funds which is pay above 8% right now, right 8 to 11. So, we're talking about let's say. I reached out there 8 to 11% right if I would sell my coins according to the current price right now right, I would still average out between 5 to 6% net. Right. Versus 7% net funds, I'm only getting probably 3 to 3.5% if I would sell the coins for USD. So not too bad, man. You walk aboard. I did it. Why not? That's why I have to put it. I suggest it, do it. I get just do it right. Don't hesitate. Don't think so much of all those negative nonsense of people. Speculators will be speculators. They don't know how to strategize their assets, right. But we know we are experienced investors, right? Try effects, like I said, is only one. Of My Portfolio, right, I've got many portfolios and each portfolio are worth 3 strategies according to market sentiment, right. So, in the financial world, we have to tell them, you know, they are always up and down, right? They are always uncertainty. But when this happened, how do you re-strategize your portfolio? That is the whole idea. There is a whole teaching that we need to share out, right? It's seriously, they are scammers. But right now, 10 billion, they can just shut the whole bloody thing and you won't be able to. exchange for usdt at all I can't even withdraw right and I did withdraw for a lot of people right now and change for USD to cash right just based on whatever you need hold on to the capital let the flusher flush themselves out then we'll have peace of mind ready later on”

Conclusion:

Point 1:
I did able to find maximum return fund from FM. So,i implement the new greater perform fund Maximilan from last month which giving total gross profit 21.13%. Investor will get at 13.734%. If base on the market price now at 0.4.  I would still average out between 5 to 6% net. if I would sell the coins for USD
Point 2:
For the new investor able to buy cheap tfx to attach FM. They are earning more compare old investor due to low rate to enter.

Example :
Old investor : invest $1000 / 1000 tfx  – profit return $75 / 5 weeks
New investor : Invest $1000/ 2500 tfx – Profit return $55 / 4 weeks

Two profits can be earn for new investor, can consider good timing for enter the market
1) 5-6% per month which well better compare to other investment.
2) High potential profit return if price more than the time they buy in invest.

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sohai still believe in 60% profit with zero 10 bil auditing
sohai advise more sohai put in more money  so upper sohai can milk more money from them  :thumbsup:
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Can't believe the "big uplines" said it like this. They just never care about the interest of their downlines. Don't you feel the language and English sound like someone we know? They never address the withdrawal issues and the fundamental of the so called investment scheme. The payout ratio and distri ution method already do not make sense. This is just crazy.
koaydarren
post Dec 18 2022, 01:12 PM

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I hope the victims have to understand that from a mathematical point of view, the tfx coin and usdt can never reach 1 to 1. The reason is simple. 10 billions funds with a 7% return per cycle, the interest is around 700 millions profits, but they are giving out 250 millions only (10million buyback per day), assuming the original investment is not counted. As time passes longer, the tfx coins will be minted more, and the proportion of the payout ratio will be even smaller. At this rate, for sure the tfx will crash. Again, we are here to provide logical reasoning for every investment. Do not attach emotion to your investment. When you see red flags, get out while you can.
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post Dec 18 2022, 01:33 PM

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Assuming your TFX proposes either pop up lucky draw withdrawal or capped distribution to the investors. Just imagine your net worth is growing at 7% per cycle, but the value to withdraw the value stays the same. From a statistical or mathematical point of view, the difference will only be getting bigger and bigger. When you have the money, it does not make sense for your not to withdraw and use it. Until a certain amount, people will start withdrawing. You can power the number of cycles and estimate when this scheme will burst. The value of the TFX will drop around 30% per cycle based on my modeling. Of course, I might be wrong. But I will revisit my answer soon.

This post has been edited by koaydarren: Dec 18 2022, 01:36 PM
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post Dec 20 2022, 06:52 PM

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The biggest problem here is that because this is a lottery pop-up and can be controlled by the TFX system, the pop-up could appear on their own fake dummy accounts. As soon as the distribution is based on luck, no matter how much the the buyback per day, it can be manipulated. Good luck guys
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post Dec 22 2022, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(vanguish @ Dec 22 2022, 06:52 PM)
TRX still got a chance to go up now. If everybody admit it's a ponzi scheme and the FM is non-existence fairy tale .....this is just a number game all the while...

All members hold hands, not selling their TFX and keep promoting to new ponzi lovers.....

TRX maybe really can go up $5 le....and blowup much later....
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It will crash for sure before CNY when all need to cash out to spend. It will be interesting to see how people react when 3 months can't liquidate their money.
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post Mar 24 2023, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(aaa_batteries @ Mar 24 2023, 11:49 AM)
Believe I mentioned this previously ...

Not only engineer but any profession, there are good doctors and average doctors, good accountants and average accountants, good engineers and average engineers, ...

You don't need to be top of your class to graduate as long as get enough credits and the working life will separate those better ones from the average ones. The better ones will move up the corporate ladders and manage the rest and able to take on more responsibilities. Even at management level, the "better" managers will be able to retain staff while the "average" managers will lose more competent staff who realise they are better off elsewhere .... don't play play with MARKET FORCES

Every industry, you will know someone who is good in his/her work. They don't promote themselves, their work promote them.

Your friend is not stupid, he is just inexperienced when come to financial and maybe don't have an open mind to listen to logical argument/facts (which is a bit surprising because those with science background should appreciate verifiable facts, technical review, peer review, due diligence, etc).

If your friend still into it, I can only "assume" he/she is just an average engineer!

Edited: my bad, probably a greedy average engineer  nod.gif Don't look down on greed, a great force to reckon with. Just ask any Jedi.
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Good old days when the three musketeers bashed us so hard. When we asked for facts, he said we are marons and jokers. When forummers pointed out all the fake trades or weird displays from the website, then the three always turned around the Bush.

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post Apr 12 2023, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(aaa_batteries @ Apr 12 2023, 12:58 PM)
Don’t know whether to cry or to laugh, this is beyond stupid/moron/brain dead ☠️.

Still think this is real… everything is fake from the moment any money deposited. They want to close both eyes that their ULs been taking commission from their deposits. Why do they think the ULs working so hard for no pay? Even a small amount of 30% commission (others have mentioned comm rate as high as 47%), every 1000 deposited left with 700 and profit is calculated based on 1000.

Simple maths will tell you that 7% profits per cycle (calculated based on 1000) = 70 but this is actually from 700, which means fake FM must make 15% returns since there’s sharing 65/35. Wah Lau 15% every five weeks 150% per year. Not even WB can generate such returns every year for last two to three years.

The fact is your money has gone to various pockets and your AUM is fake. You are just millionaires on papers now. Even the hell money need real money to purchase. You can’t even buy hell money with your coins.
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You sure? But initially the three musketeers said they didn't receive any commission by recruiting any victims. They prefer not to share this scheme to anyone as they can receive passive income from it.


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