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post Oct 16 2022, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(ApekMiddleAge @ Oct 16 2022, 04:47 PM)
don't have to try so hard to sound wise n politically correct la DAD....
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Thanks for the advise. Actually it is not hard.
Sometimes for some people, they don't managed to see or know the different between investing in a locally regulated and a non regulated products...
Thus i hv to post .....
Anyway it is not hard or trying to be wise,
It is just easy thinking, somethings just came to mind, does not need to be very wise.

But then again for some people my post would seems hard or sounded hard for them to write or post...perhaps they are not wise enough to think, write n post something like that? Just hope they have better reasons

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post Oct 16 2022, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(ApekMiddleAge @ Oct 16 2022, 06:07 PM)
if u wanna imply tfxi as scam then do so la, no need to be wise n politically correct la, y? worry when year 2030 still not collapse and all LY fellow laughing at u n curse u for listening to your so called atas pagar logic just because u stars studded? keyboard warrior also half cooked
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A scam can only be proven once it had happened...
With no proof but just having red flags waving thus hv to be wise and politically correct too. Even bnm, sc or mas hv no proof that it is a scam.

BTW,
Do you know that.
Number of stars in lyn does not imply anything other than the number of posts...
To be a keyboard warriors does not need to hv so many stars too...
The numbers of posts like what you are having can be one too.
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post Oct 16 2022, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Oct 16 2022, 10:20 PM)
All your above theory is only applicable if TFXI really collapse. But you @MUM as usual intentionally comment in such perspective where you already "presume" that TFXI is "Going" to collapse. So I don't find a point you trying so hard to stay neutral everytime where your core perspective of all of your comments is pretty much obvious since the beginning
I reckoned 80% - 85% of the "red flags" are made by:
- Haters
- Competitors
- Scam Recovery
- Money Making Blog (such as BehindMLM)

Which has proven time & time again to be inaccurate, bias & non-factual article. And then you haters recycled that bias article & said its "Red Flag", and then reuse this statement in future posts again & again just like how you guys keeps barking the same DVD all the way.
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Yeah, it will keep on repeating as long as there are audiences and responders...
Just like you also repeating this dvd stuffs and oerhaos more too.

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post Oct 17 2022, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(ApekMiddleAge @ Oct 17 2022, 12:59 PM)
Not very atas pagar ya with this post .......u memang lalang la.............. all your previous post u just agree and leaned towards its be a 100% scam or 100% scam in the making but now U-Turn ..................LALANG MUM!!! rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Yar lor, hv to repeat again lor

Yar lor,.. Especially those that try to blow horns on how good n trustworthy that company is...
Any other good reasons for them to do that other than try to "con" vince readers about that company?
If they are sure that that company is good,... Just diam diam lah,.. No need to try to convince readers here, for readers here are not their family members or friends, why want to tell them the secrets to unlimited riches? ...
Unless they hv other hidden agendas? 🤔


Is that not true?

Aiding n abetting others to join a non regulated investment platform/entities is a no no ...

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post Oct 17 2022, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(lavenderguy @ Oct 17 2022, 10:35 AM)
enjoy reading the comments at triumph official fb.....and also 理财嘛嘛档  fbif you can read Mandarin..
full of entertainments...some having troubles, some said very smooth, some cried foul play, some said defamation, some questioned why withdrawal some slow but deposit so fast...
to each of its own...
i believe it can really make money and like mum said it's not a scam until it collapsed..
just dun involve too many around u...sendiri diam diam untung lah
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Yar lor, ...since they mentioned they did not earn much from introducing others,
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post Oct 17 2022, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Oct 17 2022, 05:28 PM)
As far as I'm concerned, this ENTIRE LowYat started with all ya'll haters bashing TFXI non-stop. No one. Literally No-One promoted TFXI, saying how good it is etc. We are just trying to PROVE that you hater's points are completely non-factual all these while. And that makes us promoting it? @MUM don't try to manipulate the entire Forum's Narrative here.

Supporters countered hater's false-claim does not mean supporters are PROMOTING the platform. We supporters kept quiet for a few days (on mid-September) and you can see old + new accounts came repeating the same shit over & over again. When we tried to repeat our counter-points, now you highlight us the same for being a DVD? Saying us have hidden agendas when you can clearly see all the hater's agenda here.
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You dvd play back, haters did played back too. Then cycle repeats
As long as there are audiences and responders,...it never ends.
You are also playing back...does not matters when it starts...from mid Sept also makes no difference..playback dvd is still playback dies not matter when it starts.

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post Oct 17 2022, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Oct 17 2022, 06:01 PM)
Agreed. But the key-point in this non-stop argument is this. There are 2 Parties. Supporters & Haters.
So in my opinion, we should look at REALITY & ACT towards the facts that reality have proven from time to time.

IN REALITY -
Is TFXI profiting for 13 years? = Yes
Have TFXI scammed? = No

So IN LOW YAT CIRCUS -
Should supporters promote TFXI since it's profiting for 13 years? = Not necessary & Not recommended
Should haters keep saying its a scam? = No, because the more you haters utter its a scam year by year, the more you guys make yourself look like a clown.

Simple Equation. Reality is that TFXI stands after 13 years. TFXI did not scam. All statements here I'm talking about IS AS PRESENTLY.
So barking about TFXI is a scam for 7 to 8 years ain't going to move this community forward since its pointless as reality keeps opposing your point likewise.

Supporters already stopped commenting in Mid-September & never once promoted TFXI.
But early October you can see hater pressed the replay button again when they see reality is not aligned with their speculations. And keep on crying and crying and crying.
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does changing the word to "potential scams" instead of "it is a scam" used by "haters" makes it better/correct?

anyway, this thread got alot of "insider" / indepth info from you,...
i really gained alot from your postings (since Sept)

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post Oct 17 2022, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Oct 17 2022, 06:48 PM)
It does definitely make YOUR point & argument better. But in an unbias reality, the word "potential scam" is only implied because you haters said so.

You can say it's "Potential Scam" as far back as 2015 until now for 7 Years & continue keep saying it is until 2030, it will STILL make your point & argument better throughout the 15 years. All you haters are trying to do is to comfort yourselves that it is a "potential scam" and divert all attention of your argument on that single phrase just to prove your points "Potential Right" throughout the years.

But in reality, TFXI still stands today & your point can be labelled as "Realistically Inaccurate & Wrong" + "Potential Right".

So let me ask you. Which is certain & which is uncertain? "Realistically Inaccurate & Wrong" or "Potential Right"?
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my view,....
in uncertainty,....i would go with BNM, SC or MAS.
for if anything goes wrong,.... if it is regulated, i think it is "filtered" and are under the purview of local regulators, thus i know i have the recourse of law to try to help me.



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post Oct 18 2022, 06:11 AM

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I really hoped to see more of these kind of products go mainstream, worldwide and lasted forever.
Perhaps some of us maybe dead by then. But for let's says, if after 30 yrs, many would hv believes and see that nagic.

Then more parents even those that are poor would try to find that usd1k to save for their child. Perhaps more charities prganisation can also chipped in to help too.
Just imagine, every year can get almost 1 fold of money growth.
In just 1 generation or 2 later, the world would hv no poverty forever.
Then there will be new saying ...only death, taxes and no poverty are confirmed.
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post Oct 18 2022, 11:44 AM

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If one had real old friends, in frequent contacts relatives or family members that had invested in products that had been giving constant 5-8 % at times more returns monthly for years,...
Would his risk appetite goes up due to those information?

And those real old friends, in frequent contacts relatives or family members that had invested in products that had been giving constant 5-8 % at times more returns monthly for years,...will their risk appetite goes up as well and dump on more with each opportunity they have?

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post Oct 18 2022, 04:20 PM

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waiting for coffee,...

just have some fun with calculator....

if have the affordability and can spare USD 1000,....can try it.

put in and forget,...come back open the account after 8 years,...should have > 1 miilion MYR
put in and forget,...come back open the account after 10 years,.should have > 1 miilion USD

put in and forget,...come back open the account after 18 years,.should have > 1 billion MYR
put in and forget,...come back open the account after 20 years,.should have > 1 biilion USD

if you put in and forget,...but come back open the account after X years and found that the money is not accessible or gone,. should have just lose your USD 1000

what a better way to present your child before he/she finished his university ..... brows.gif



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post Oct 18 2022, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Oct 18 2022, 05:05 PM)
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Good calculation. Technically its accurate. Provided if FM didn't close down or retire or lose money. Then yes, possibility is there.
But I reckoned as recently 2 Fund Managers (Data Trader 1 & Data Trader 2) from China closed down due to personal issues. In reality, I don't think everything is permanent. Even if trader are giving consistent profit for 10 years, doesn't mean they will for another 10 years. They might retire, close down or even lose money.

PS: Data Trader 1 & 2's Investors were allowed to withdraw all their capital when the fund closed back in September. (Yeah, scammers allowing investors withdraw. Very Logical)
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Even if they close down, ...as long as they did not run away but returns the money to the investors,...still no lose.
Then move that money to another company.👏👍

Oops added this,
If going by this
"In reality, I don't think everything is permanent. Even if trader are giving consistent profit for 10 years, doesn't mean they will for another 10 years. They might retire, close down or even lose money."
Then this can also be true too.
In reality, I don't think everything is permanent. Even if trader are giving consistent profit for 10 years, doesn't mean they will for another 10 years. They might retire, close down or even run away with the money. (Losing all the money t trades will be more remote than running away with it. As I think i did read they hv stop lose limit for their trade)

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post Oct 20 2022, 06:26 AM

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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Oct 20 2022, 01:36 AM)
Prove to haters: Haters misinterpreted it.
Explain to haters: Haters say FAKE
Prove again its real with more proofs: Haters keep quiet for weeks

2 Weeks Later: Haters ask the same question again. LOL
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5 Years later we'll be seeing its still there saying its scam. Nothing changes.


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I am not sure if I should say this, ....
As I mentioned earlier,
As long as there audiences and responders, ..it never ends.

Haters will keep on repeating as a forummer had earlier (just few posts back) mentioned "it is entertaining to waste your time". (The "your" in his that post was referenced to another "defender/lover/supporter/promoter or just anyone that goes against the thinking of those "haters of tfxi and was not directed to you in his that post). But I guess some haters at times would find it entertaining to read your responses to their posts everytime they post too. Else why would they keep on repeating those claims or perhaps they would just liked to warn other new readers that happened to surf here about this product/entity/scheme etc
For myself, as I had mentioned just few postings back, I did get a lot of useful "insider/ indepth" info from your postings since mid Sept.

Haters will keep on postings claims.
Lovers will keep on spending time to "counter/repeat rebukes" those claims
X months/ yrs later still may chance nothing....
Will you keep this up for X months/ years?
Hopefully you too find it entertaining n fun in replying them.
And lagi better if your income also depended on them.

I think those haters posting here may consists of some that are not interested about tfxi but (if I recalled correctly, there was a mention) your 'narcissism" style of postings..
Just not sure if they don't like it so the posts or they loved to "troll you" to think and write more of those entertaining things for them to read

Just remember to continue to have fun in postings, be it haters/lovers.

Parting note for this morning.
Having its name listed in alert list of bnm/sc/mas does not mean it is a scam.
So are not having listed in the alert list of bnm/sc/mas does not mean it is not a scam

Being listed as not regulated means you will forgo having protection n any recourse of law available to try to get your money back if it burst.
Potential Scams can come and go to be came a confirmed scam when it burst.
How do you spot signs of Potential Scams?
Google may helps gives some idea.

Confirmed returns and payout now can be halted with short notice or even without warning.

As "Don" had recently posted this which I find it to be highly n reasonably true.
"I don't think everything is permanent. Even if trader are giving consistent profit for 10 years, doesn't mean they will for another 10 years. They might retire, close down or even lose money".

This "trader" can includes your unit trust funds or your employer etc
This "close down" can includes running off with your money or operations stopped by the authorities too.

Just wish someone that are in tfxi or triumphfx or hv any contact with them ...can try to check with them about the "controversies" findings about those "awards".
Yes it may not prove that it is a scam or potential scam, but little error or corrections of those little "mistakes" if confirmed to be true can impact the credibility or perceived trust worthiness of the entities...
Which if not corrected/clarified would end up as a repeated talking point again n again later with responders getting involved again.

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post Oct 20 2022, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(kinnasai @ Oct 20 2022, 09:32 AM)
https://www.sc.com.my/investor-empowerment/...ated-complaints
Guys, just help to do your best part.
Report those jokers in SC, so that something still traceable later.
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I am sure the authorities already knew about this entity.
For they are already listed in alert list in Malaysia n spore too



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post Oct 20 2022, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Oct 20 2022, 11:28 AM)
Yes. Agree with your statements. Very unbiased POV on above.
But I still couldn't get the fact of why these haters bashing TFXI non-stop? And when we defend it we are so called "promoting"?

Please enlighten me on this. Scroll back to Page 1 to 68 you can see none of us PROMOTING TFXI except some comments which is meant solely to answer someone's question that was raised in the Forums.
I think there are forummers "telling their experiences" of many years and that they have no issues and are having constantly 7-8% at times more profits every 5 week cycle .....
This "experience telling", ... (hopefully they are true) can be deemed as a form of "promoting" for some people.
Just like those telling bad things are called haters too.


But if you reverse the perspective, why would haters wake up everyday and bashing non-stop? What's their agenda? Doing good for the community? Like I mentioned, they have been "doing good" since 2015 until now and 7 years nothing "Good" seemed to be true. Infact, those that go against them already made thousands or maybe 6-7 figures. (I use the word MAYBE).

After all, its NOT their money to give their opinion from the start. Like some of them said, it's their money. What they invest is their problem.
those that are already inside that are playing of course it is their problem. What about the possibility if some new readers that might be "enticed" by the "wow, so good and no-one is talking bad or having tell of any possible signs of it is a scam in the making" and they joined it?
If I choose to invest in US Stocks in an Offshore Broker, it's still unregulated in Malaysia, (might be potential SC Alert List).
I believes it is ok if one were to do it on his own with full knowledge of the risk that investing in US Stocks in an Offshore Broker, it's still unregulated in Malaysia, (might be potential SC Alert List). And knows that returns are no constant and passive and do it without aiding or abetting others to join in. For those that had been enticed to join in may not hv the same self control after tasting sweets n dumped more in. Example With thinking like if in just 8 yrs i could becone a millionaire with 1k usd...what if i put 10k or more usd?? Few generation no need to work liao
See post 1359 directly above by forummer kembayan for recent example of "doubt/enticed"

Do you all haters go against me? I reckon you haters will do that.
I think (only think) they go against the product of tfxi or triumphfx in the beginning, later when you posted, with you styles of posting facts and those extra writes up and tagging of replies between one another makes it seems like targeting you and them
So what's the point of keep bashing and made your point that is COMPLETELY NON-EFFECTIVE for 7 Years?

I think maybe it is not "efficiencies"  of bashing that product that they are seeking to do currently....now I think it is more to tagging of replies which would become having more personal direct feeling. ... maybe like what I said earlier about ..entertaining. "you bash they bash, you stop they bash. You bash back, they stop. You stop they bash. and repeat.

in the beginning of this thread, I think they also believes that nothing that "presented as experience" to be that good" can be constant forever. ...thus they called it a scam, money games or ponzi.
As my previous coffee break math calculation had shown, ...one would hv reached 1 million (myr) at 8 yrs with just 1k usd..
For me, if I am in the shoes of the organiser,  for ease of calculation I would run away at 8 yrs. If 1 investor had 1 million and with just 1000 investor each having 1 million, ...I will be a billionaire myr or in another 2 yrs later billionaire in usd......there are of course more than xx000 investors and many more having millions inside at that time.


Please enlighten me @MUM
dare NOT say it is enlightenment, ...just kay poh observation n talk only which can be entirely wrong

Thank you.
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post Oct 20 2022, 02:36 PM

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Sharing of experience may start of with a simple question asked by forummer.
Sometimes it could just start with this simple posting, .exsmple....

Every 5 weeks i get approx 6% return, but due to the usd 25 dollar charge, i will continue to purchase invest to make it round up to USD 200 per 5 weeks.

It has growth so far, and withdraw of money seems no issue.

In your opinion, is this a type of scam or something like bitcoin where indeed it is legal in others country and still continue to grow trend
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wah really ka?? my friend just intro me this and ask me join... say some already join few years.. masuk over hundren thousands.. couple weeks get back tens of thousands wo.. really get money.. how leh?
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Experience sharing is ok if those experience shared are not obtained from experience gain that are against any kind of legal act in Malaysia.

Ecstacy pills or drugs is just another simple example of the experience that the users can experience...telling of those good joyful experience openly?
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I believes That is what makes this thread so entertaining to some.

If facts can be twisted, so can many more things

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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Oct 20 2022, 02:57 PM)
You see @MUM, I think you don't get the point. Forums/Debates are very clear cut.

You can see in the beginning someone asks a question & created this thread out of curiosity.
Then haters group up & said its a scam with almost ALL wrong facts/links given just to prove their point.
Supporters then came to clarify that some facts/links given are false & it is NOT true.

Haters then said supporters are promoting, crying & make SC report like as if we have committed a crime.
If they felt that is promoting something illegal, they are free to report to the authority, ..it is their right.
You quoted "Ecstacy pills or drugs is just another simple example of the experience that the users can experience...telling of those good joyful experience openly?"

It is only you people & other haters claim this is a scam/not legit/fake platform. Hence you enforce others to BELIEVE in what you THINK it's true. And repetitively saying the same thing. So when supporters retaliate, you guys have nothing to say & use excuse such as "Us promoting" to point back the fingers to us.

Bro, you guys ask. We answered, you guys said we doing drugs. What?
I think you don't seems to get what I meant when I said about those drugs things...it was meant to be an anology (example) to ask is it ok to openly tell the positives experience openly about something that is against the law in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Oct 20 2022, 03:08 PM)
Replying to your comment for Post#1360

I think there are forummers "telling their experiences" of many years and that they have no issues and are having constantly 7-8% at times more profits every 5 week cycle .....
This "experience telling", ... (hopefully they are true) can be deemed as a form of "promoting" for some people.
Just like those telling bad things are called haters too.


Forumers "telling their experiences" because you guys ASK FOR IT. Like I mentioned many times, we are just RESPONDING not casually PROMOTING out of nowhere. There's a difference in the intention & action.
sometimes it was not asked but posted as a simple query/experience sharing and this is dependent on the view of readers to determine iv it was really a query or masquared as in a form of query or simple truth experience sharing.
those that are already inside that are playing of course it is their problem. What about the possibility if some new readers that might be "enticed" by the "wow, so good and no-one is talking bad or having tell of any possible signs of it is a scam in the making" and they joined it?

The problem is, the 'signs of scams' mostly are self-made up by haters & most of the facts aren't true. Which is where we are here to clarify. Even so, clarifying our rights made desperate people like @KANNASAI decide to report us to SC just because we are standing at our point of view.
you made your point, he made his. I think there is another forummer also reported to his MP and then to BNM too
I believes it is ok if one were to do it on his own with full knowledge of the risk that investing in US Stocks in an Offshore Broker, it's still unregulated in Malaysia, (might be potential SC Alert List). And knows that returns are no constant and passive and do it without aiding or abetting others to join in. For those that had been enticed to join in may not hv the same self control after tasting sweets n dumped more in. Example With thinking like if in just 8 yrs i could becone a millionaire with 1k usd...what if i put 10k or more usd?? Few generation no need to work liao

Then my friend, it's not our problem. If you think your duty to spam FAKE News/ FAKE Articles/ FAKE statement just to bash TFXI & tarnish its name in order to prevent greedy people to "Taste Sweets & dumped more In", you're completely handling this wrongly.
People's greediness has NOTHING TO DO WITH TFXI & it is completely up to different individual. You guys bashing TFXI just because of someone else's intention is completely doesn't make sense at all
may not make sense to you, but it may be to them to try to get "unconverted" people some thing to think about other than all the glories being told.
Go against their intention of greediness instead of bashing TFXI. It's the same theory as, I taste a candy I like, I keep eating the candy. Instead of bashing ME not eating the candies, you open a Forum & Trashtalk the candy company to prevent others from eating it as well.....WAT?
You tasted candies that are "not encouraged" to eat in Malaysia then tell of those good experiences openly...then I think they feel have to tell those "unconverted" or the authority.


I think maybe it is not "efficiencies"  of bashing that product that they are seeking to do currently....now I think it is more to tagging of replies which would become having more personal direct feeling. ... maybe like what I said earlier about ..entertaining. "you bash they bash, you stop they bash. You bash back, they stop. You stop they bash. and repeat.

Exactly. Barking with emotions. So what's the point of this forum anyways? Exactly proved my point for the 100th time. CIRCUS Forums with CLOWNS.
If you stick with this kind of thinking and writing, eventhough you are right, you will have to keep on repeating what you had posted for some times longer. like I said earlier, haters will keep on postings.
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in the beginning of this thread, I think they also believes that nothing that "presented as experience" to be that good" can be constant forever. ...thus they called it a scam, money games or ponzi

Then its completely their problem & have nothing to do with anyone. IF they think its a scam so be it. If we think it is NOT a scam so be it.
but you as you had been, will keep on telling it is not a scam as haters will always come to claim it is a scam
End of this discussion between you and me, I still couldn't find whats the desperation for them to go so hardcore just to prove their point which in reality is not happening?
👍 I too don't see any ending to it...as long as there are audience and responders.
BTW, hv you noticed how DrFx n Terry reacted to recent challenges from Trailblazer regarding the toilet paper cert issue.? I am not telling you should follow their footstep. But think of what you gonna do to end this "I bash, you bash, I bash, they claim, you rebuke, repetitive kind of things.
Like i asked earlier, if you got income from it (replying to claims here) or are really enjoy responding to those claims then ok lor.
Else if for me, I would just keep focusing on getting my millions without need to have my blood boils from having to constantly repeating myself here as I know I don't get much $$ from getting new investors to join too

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QUOTE(Ultimate Warrior @ Oct 30 2022, 10:05 AM)
Some questions hopefully get answers

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6. Since inflation is getting higher the few month, Forex investment can assist to reduce the impact if investment is correctly done.

Thanks in advance if answered.
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My unqualified advise/suggestion is....beware of what you think you want to do to reduce the impact of inflation on your available money...

That action that you gonna do to reduce or positively impact the value of your available money from negative impact of inflation, may as well turned into something that reduced your available money significantly or worst if/when it can make that available money "gone".

10k getting IF 4% at FD = 400
10k IF, at 7% inflation is 700
1 year lose purchasing power of 300

10k if lost 15% in investment = -1500 + 400 (opportunity cost)
10k if "scammed" = -10k

How long do you need to recover that lost 1900 or 10k?

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