there is a different between Capital Preservation/Retention and Profits Preservation/Retention.
and also have to realise "the can afford to lose money (Capital)...is it really can afford to lose money or just I "think" it can afford to lose money" when someone started to put in that capital to join a high risk investment?

i am of course happy because i realised the difference.
who cares, as long as i am happy.
just like who cares as long as one is happy to be in TFXI.

But, just don't ABET them here lah
for those that ABET may not realised that it is an offence to abet

not saying you are abetting, as you did mention that you left after realizing something inside.

This post has been edited by MUM: Sep 9 2022, 01:27 PM

just a note though, ...

if one were to think of the returns that one can get from FOREX trading DIY style,...
which i think would be dependence on alot of things....

i got these statistics about CFD trading .....just not sure how exactly similar this CFD with forex trading.
but if based on self DIY i think which would also be dependence of alot of things,
then just have a look at the number of the chances of losing

it is not about the amount of losses but the chances of losses if based on self DIY which would be dependence of alot of things.
(just what are some of the major similarities of this "alot of things" between CFD trading with Forex trading?)

thus sure, 20% profits per forex trades are very possible, ....but then, so are ......

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anyone knows, what are the chances of stock trading's losses if DIY styles?
cannot seem to get those from official sites like these CFD statistics
but i have a gut feeling (just gut feeling, no statistics) that it would be much lower as the chances of making (or temptation to believes can make) 20% profits from EACH shares trading in a very short time frame would be much lesser than forex trading.

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why only bad comments of experiencing bad stuffs in TFXI "to includes" (WITH PROOFS OF PERSONAL EXPERIENCE)
while good comments in Trust pilot (If you're experiencing good stuffs in TFXI ofcourse) did not specifically mention (WITH PROOFS OF PERSONAL EXPERIENCE)?

never tried Trustpilot before,.....
can anyone just gives comments in Trustpilot eventhough not actually encountering anything or can anyone just shiok shiok place comment be it good or bad in there?

,...just my thinking,...not saying your is NOT correct...
just my thinking only.

for some of it can go the other way too,...just like this for example

Go ahead man. No one's stopping you. If you don't want to risk investing offshore,
No one Not all is stopping you....if you are already in it,...those stopping it may be directing those messages to "potential" new converts too. Or they could also be trying to oppose those are trying to "promotes" it.
No one is CRITICIZING you. (i believes these are happening to or with both parties too as can be read from these thread)
No oneNOT ALL is CURSING your families.
(some of those supporters are doing it too,...perhaps not families but names calling too)
No one No All is SPAMMING FALSE INFO about what you're investing.
(bcos this scams are not burst yet, thus some of those info currently being told by the supporters could not be classified as as FALSE info yet)
No one is PUBLISHING your photo on forums & ask people to "recognise their faces". but i think that intention is to get proof of those involved in case of scam happened. But i believes it will be a futile action (of collecting faces) too. As BNM may just say,...we already too you to be alert of this entity.
No oneNot all is BASHING about your investments 24/7.
(some supporters are also BASHING those non believers at every opportunities they got too)
No one Not all is going to say you're BRAINWASHED
(some supporters did also label those not believers something like those lines too,)

but when that involves ABETTING others to invest in it,...then that is not as simple as what you think it to be...

Is telling of "positive" experience, especially when those experiences obtained are from having participated in activities that are against the law in Malaysia; be considered as abetting?

also
(not sure if those experiences being told are true or not)
(not sure if those experience are really their experience or just hearsay or information from their uplines too)

for the benefits of doubt, i will take it as real positive experience being shared.

my thinking is "positive" experience shared is like those marketing products that usually comes with some sort of published (good) Customer Reviews and Testimonials. Those marketeers will use it to influence a person's perspective and place more trust in a new brand or product.

btw, in one of the ACT in Malaysia, it did mention, "it is an offence to aid or abet another person........"
is giving referral code (without it, can join?), contact number of uplines, brought potential investors to meet with their uplines or PIC to discuss more and etc, etc, with the intention to assist the new person to join an activity (illegal activity) be considered as "to aid another person"?

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just wondering, what reply can that be? for they had already place it in the Alert list and i think the operation of this entity does not need physical offices, thus cannot be raided by the authorities.
could it be for those reasons, you are being challenged to make that report?

yes, hope you could updates me about their response.
i really appreciates your effort n time spend in really "digging" up the details about TFXI.
especially the video presentation, the details published inside it and the time stamps about those "interesting" details.



This post has been edited by MUM: Sep 11 2022, 10:38 AM

yes, thanks goodness,....
yes, thanks goodness you had downloaded it
perhaps, it was not unintentionally that it was put on youtube. for it can also be perhaps a kind of advertising/marketing info....
like "if you don't understand it or needed more info,...just goto see the explanation/presentation that had been in Youtube" or
in case of new promoter,...
"i think you should watch this Youtube video, it explained more clearly and in more details, much better than if i were to explain it to you. And after seeing this video, if you don't understand, then ask me again. Ok?"

if that person making that presentation and are part of the TFXI ecosystem,....
then same as the Rajesh China saga,....could they use that same reason like

"We have discovered that certain IBs continue to abuse our Code of Conduct, operating TriumphFX offices in China, representing us and soliciting funds without the authorization of TriumphFX.
This has been causing major issues, affecting and jeopardizing the TriumphFX brand name."

i think, their code of conduct,...should probably be inclusive of "fake info" when doing presentation.

btw, previously if not mistaken, publishing also about the many "award received" too

just hopefully, it is just a part of the elaborate scams to try to take down TFXI by its competitors
thus those promoting TFXI could still deny those info posted in that video. "That video is FAKE...not from US".
for could it be, those the thinks that video is FAKE because their uplines does not present those fake info to them....but how sure are they about the code of conducts of the uplines of some others??

or in the opposite spectrum of things, since that video is new (just less than 2 weeks old (29 Aug 2022)), it could also meant to be an official "unofficial" presentation video that are NOT meant to be viewed by those not converted. Thus current converts may not know about the availability of those latest updated info as in that video.

This post has been edited by MUM: Sep 11 2022, 03:34 PM

yes, i understand your reasons...
but i believes that the use of 'rude mannerisms" is just one of their planned actions to try to silence "critics"

guess they had succeeded in silencing one more critics

he mentioned "So many dedicated TFXi supporters here with rude mannerism. This will be the last post of mine for this post"

to him,...it is MANY.
Many is a subjective word,...but if he were to use "So many ALL dedicated TFXi supporters here with rude mannerism. This will be the last post of mine for this post",....then different response lah.

This post has been edited by MUM: Sep 11 2022, 01:57 PM

in some of the post ,... (just some of the example,.. that are to me is ABETTING,....to you perhaps NOT.)
i ask his other triumph friends if ever got negative or lost money every cycle, he say no, always consistent, lowest is 5% or what, but average is 7-9%..

but he say it has been around for 10 over year... so why not .. take a risk

I personally invested about four years ago, and below is the result as of now,
Capital: 4k USD
Total Gain: 64k USD
Total Withdrawal: 33k USD
Cycle Profit: 4.6k - 5k USD

yes,...that is what i meant precisely....

thanks for sharing and telling of your "positive" experience, especially when those experiences obtained are from having participated in activities that are against the law in Malaysia
yes, keep up dating. thanks

even when you merely earn enough just to survive four years ago and yet you can come up with 4k USD (capital)
just too bad, if only you were not merely earning enough just to survive four years ago,...then abit more huat lah you now

This post has been edited by MUM: Sep 11 2022, 02:18 PM

you can still park illegally, if you wanted.
you can still hire PATI, if you wanted to too.

btw, no need to feel BAD for calling me keyboard warrior here,...i had been called much worst than that here actually.
anyway, i do appreciate your acknowledgement about it.
may peace be with you too....
not sure if it can burst or not,...but hope you can managed to get it out before it burst (if it did burst). Good luck and may you continue to have passive income

This post has been edited by MUM: Sep 11 2022, 02:42 PM

in the (retail investors) DIY perspective,...
does this forex trading things same as trading with CFD or involved with same CFD?
like the strategy and method of tradings similar?


This post has been edited by MUM: Sep 11 2022, 05:11 PM

thanks for the input,...

got this thru some search....

it mentioned: "In many ways, forex is simply another kind of CFD."

so do you think it is "safe" to imply that "In many ways, forex trading is simply another kind of CFD trading"?

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i think it does matters to the traders,...
bcos if follow that details from that site,...
"In many ways, forex is simply another kind of CFD."
and from your earlier posting..."cfd is for commodities, indices, stocks and cryptos... fx for currencies... they are actually not the same... but is transparent to traders because it's traded the same way"

if the strategy and methods are almost similar,
then if looking at the chances of winning from these data,...then it is

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Previously there was mentions of ocal participants does not withdraw thru the official channel to save on the 100usd withdrawal fees...
They do it "internally among themselves"....thus should not have any delay issues, as they do transfer of units/$ to the buyers\sellers

I believe the sequence of events before getting burn and the results from the "burned" and the actions following it would be different.

Is the "burn" caused by market forces or just by the organiser of where you placed your money?
Is the burn abrupt (sudden and unexpected)?
Do you feel the heat or slight burn before getting fully 100% burned?
Do you have the choice to decide if you want to get away after getting 10-20% burned or the choice is made for you that you will get 100% burned without warning?
Do you have any chance of recourse of law in Malaysia to try to get your grievances heard with attempt to get your money back if and when you feel that you been unfairly burned 100%?