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 Unifi to stop offering public IP to < 100mbps cust, Habis P2P?

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XxSupaNovaxX
post Oct 16 2021, 09:35 AM

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i seee
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The only explanation i understand

tm intro this, in order to reduce cost? (as per single separate number service each time? idk..just guessing)
as now can charge per bulk
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post Oct 16 2021, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Oct 14 2021, 08:06 AM)
Can't direct connect, but should be able to use Plex Relay https://support.plex.tv/articles/216766168-...-through-relay/

Though for 1Mbps for free & 2Mbps for Plex Pass, quality might not be so good
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I don’t have Plex Pass since I’m just a light user. I think there are other methods using different URL to bypass
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post Oct 16 2021, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(XxSupaNovaxX @ Oct 16 2021, 09:35 AM)
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i seee
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The only explanation i understand

tm intro this, in order to reduce cost? (as per single separate number service each time? idk..just guessing)
as now can charge per bulk
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i'm guessing:

1) they don't wan u to host anything using home package.
cuz hosting & things that require port forward no longer works.

2) they wanna assert more control, easier censorship.

3) they can splice the bandwidth, giving priority traffic to premium customers.
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post Oct 16 2021, 12:59 PM

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we dont have any alternative ? maxis fiber also using unifi port. TIMES not everywhere got coverage

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post Oct 16 2021, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Corsair0418 @ Oct 16 2021, 12:59 PM)
we dont have any alternative ? maxis fiber also using unifi port. TIMES not everywhere got coverage
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this has nothing to do with infrastructure used
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post Oct 16 2021, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Corsair0418 @ Oct 16 2021, 12:59 PM)
we dont have any alternative ? maxis fiber also using unifi port. TIMES not everywhere got coverage
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what you are subscribing to?
just fight for it la, dont make it easy for TM.

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post Oct 16 2021, 02:03 PM


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QUOTE(Corsair0418 @ Oct 16 2021, 12:59 PM)
we dont have any alternative ? maxis fiber also using unifi port. TIMES not everywhere got coverage
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Why not just request for a public IP from TM?
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post Oct 16 2021, 02:27 PM

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my newer nas and cctv no problem because they have cloud option and also, accessing it using ipv6 also no problem.

just that older device that have no ipv6. have to set up rpi just for reverse proxy
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post Oct 16 2021, 06:14 PM

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Is time fiber using public ip? Thinking want to change to time fiber
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post Oct 16 2021, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(kons @ Oct 16 2021, 08:01 AM)
actually the main reason is they run of public ips.
and they are not ready for ipv6 for the whole country yet.

so going private ip is a workaround for now.
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Blame whole world for IPv6 not ready is better, but yes, enabling IPv6 will causing higher speed drop for Google Malaysia long time ago, now maybe it still happen. brows.gif

Anyways, Streamyx did support IPv6, it is the first one supporting IPv6 well before QoS implemented, suddenly showing up and I was quite surprised.
Then I was having fun at full speed of browsing YouTube+Google, testing lot of IPv6 bugs on software and reporting to developer happily, while watching that crappy QoS implemented, then UniFi/Fiber showing up.

After a few years, suddenly Streamyx IPv6 disabled by TM, and not coming back...
Why?
Unsure, TM should have the answer, but not like Streamyx user gonna need IPv6 anyways, as they still can ask for public IP to connect CCTV... hmm.gif

Even their UniFi Mobile got IPv6, so...

QUOTE(soonwai @ Oct 16 2021, 02:03 PM)
Why not just request for a public IP from TM?
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Yes, as long as it still allowing for asking public IP like Streamyx user, it should not be a issues, but the problem is, will it? hmm.gif

QUOTE(RonanGow @ Oct 16 2021, 06:14 PM)
Is time fiber using public ip? Thinking want to change to time fiber
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Time is good and cheap enough for everyone, the fastest hotel in Melaka is running on Time, and yes, it is rent by MMU for global IT event in past. icon_rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

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post Oct 17 2021, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(brkli @ Oct 13 2021, 10:16 PM)
it will affect any person who utilizing their internet as a "server" of sort (i.e able to response to incoming request/connect) this include, but not limiting to setting up a local VPN, say you want to access to your home PC or whatever within your home network while you are away from home, you can do it via VPN and/or some port forwarding from you router/gateway as it has a public IP which technically an address that is recognize by the whole world.

so without a public IP, things like VPN, parts of torrent protocol and etc might not work (unless they have a way to do forwarding).

on the flip side. outside world cannot direct access to your gateway/router using an (public) IP anymore as your network is beside the ISP NAT.
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post Oct 17 2021, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(brkli @ Oct 13 2021, 10:16 PM)
it will affect any person who utilizing their internet as a "server" of sort (i.e able to response to incoming request/connect) this include, but not limiting to setting up a local VPN, say you want to access to your home PC or whatever within your home network while you are away from home, you can do it via VPN and/or some port forwarding from you router/gateway as it has a public IP which technically an address that is recognize by the whole world.

so without a public IP, things like VPN, parts of torrent protocol and etc might not work (unless they have a way to do forwarding).

on the flip side. outside world cannot direct access to your gateway/router using an (public) IP anymore as your network is beside the ISP NAT.
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any other way, i have same issue here, now i cannot RDP to my remote PC at home, as port forwarding not working.
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post Oct 17 2021, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Oct 16 2021, 02:03 PM)
Why not just request for a public IP from TM?
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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Oct 16 2021, 06:34 PM)
Yes, as long as it still allowing for asking public IP like Streamyx user, it should not be a issues, but the problem is, will it? hmm.gif
Time is good and cheap enough for everyone, the fastest hotel in Melaka is running on Time, and yes, it is rent by MMU for global IT event in past. icon_rolleyes.gif  laugh.gif
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Tm said this time you cant request for public anymore. If u want public you need to buy your own public ip for rm200 a month.


QUOTE(RonanGow @ Oct 16 2021, 06:14 PM)
Is time fiber using public ip? Thinking want to change to time fiber
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Yes, time is using public ip
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QUOTE(san517 @ Oct 17 2021, 03:29 PM)
any other way, i have same issue here, now i cannot RDP to my remote PC at home, as port forwarding not working.
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Use remote software like teamviewer or anydesk.
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post Oct 17 2021, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Corsair0418 @ Oct 16 2021, 12:59 PM)
we dont have any alternative ? maxis fiber also using unifi port. TIMES not everywhere got coverage
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I am on maxis fiber and I emailed them to change from private ip ( pre assign when you sub ) to public address , since I am running cctvs on the premise
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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Oct 17 2021, 03:44 PM)
Tm said this time you cant request for public anymore. If u want public you need to buy your own public ip for rm200 a month.
Yes, time is using public ip
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Oh no! Where did they say that?
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post Oct 17 2021, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Oct 17 2021, 03:44 PM)
Use remote software like teamviewer or anydesk.
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And fun facts, Teamviewer support IPv6, and it drop frame for UniFi IPv6 like hell 2 years ago, now fixed.

The problem is not we don't have IPv6, but even you have IPv6, the QoS implemented on it is still too low priority than IPv4.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Oct 17 2021, 05:42 PM)
And fun facts, Teamviewer support IPv6, and it drop frame for UniFi IPv6 like hell 2 years ago, now fixed.

The problem is not we don't have IPv6, but even you have IPv6, the QoS implemented on it is still too low priority than IPv4.... doh.gif
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maybe you should stop using crappy old routers
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post Oct 17 2021, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Oct 17 2021, 05:44 PM)
maybe you should stop using crappy old routers
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How is connecting via IPv6 or IPv4 to the same Teamviewer server has connection with router?

For your info, IPv6 is totally fine on my side, Facebook, Google, Lowyat.net, Fast.com at full speed, and so far everyone is still affected by that crappy IPv6 connection to reach the CloudFlare server at SG/HK, which capped at 10Mbps instead of full speed via IPv4(CloudFlare speedtest and other website that using CloudFlare but without the special setup like Lowyat.net that redirect user to CloudFlare MY server, only happen to IPv6 user as far as I can saw).

Try open any website that somehow using CloudFlare as their image hosting CDN at night, then you will know what's I am talking about. doh.gif

But it might be fixed, as I facing this crappy issues until either I force IPv4 only, facing 10M speed cap, or just give up like I did 1 month ago.
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Also, TM have a more crappy IPv6 in past, they will drop any IPv6 allocation if you running your PPPoE connection for a long period.

Did you spotted that your Android's Google Play Store will hang on updating sometimes 2+ years ago?
Yes, they are having a strange fallback that will waiting for 30s on IPv6 before cut it off and fallback to IPv4.

And yes, they are improving, this issues don't happen more, so what's left is still crappy QoS like CloudFlare one. icon_rolleyes.gif
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And also yes, I know which crappy router you are saying about.

Innacomm RGX4400
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3994248/all

After certain time of running without reboot, the QoS will drop the speed of IPv6 slower, slower and slower, but IPv4 is completely fine.
It is funny when I found about this QoS design. laugh.gif

Tried anything on it, custom QoS speed, default balance, any others to QoS, nope, only reboot as the workaround.
I guess, only telnet/ssh into router and finding a way to disable the QoS will solve the problem. tongue.gif

At the same time, I found out they also capped Google drive upload speed via IPv6, full speed via IPv4. laugh.gif
Unsure it is still the same or not, need someone that having high upload speed to test for me la. icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by BenYeeHua: Oct 17 2021, 06:04 PM
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post Oct 18 2021, 07:58 PM

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Hmm unfortunately mine has been moved to private IP now. I notice a huge drop in the service quality. Frequent dropouts during zoom meetings. Websites would not show normally. Have to refresh multiple times. When opening multiple websites, most websites would not connect at all and will say "waiting time too long" or "offline". Also the online games ping have skyrocketed. Like one normal game out of 3 games. To think that I have to bear with this from now on, I am so depressed.

This post has been edited by feedmyspitz: Oct 18 2021, 07:59 PM

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