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post Aug 20 2023, 08:37 AM

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FT Charts that Matter: S&P 500

Surge in zero-day options sparks fears over market volatility
Very short-dated options account for 43% of volume in S&P 500 options

by George Steer (AUGUST 19 2023)

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Source (with paywall): https://www.ft.com/content/7799af5a-f62d-49...88-8aa53e205e47
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post Sep 13 2023, 07:08 AM

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WSJ FINANCE | STOCKS

Amateurs Pile Into 24-Hour Options: ‘It’s Just Gambling’
Rookie speculators try to strike it big on short-term investments that often act like lottery tickets

https://www.wsj.com/finance/stocks/options-...share_permalink
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post Nov 11 2023, 09:24 AM

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FT Alphaville: Derivatives

Crunch time for LOBO
If this dog were an option, would it be exercised?

by Nicholas Dunbar (YESTERDAY)

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Source (with paywall): https://www.ft.com/content/b497ce90-c591-40...dc-05c220422206
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post Dec 12 2023, 11:19 PM

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WSJ FINANCE

The Adrenaline-Fueled Trades Sweeping the Market
Activity for stock options is headed for a record in 2023, with an average 44 million contracts changing hands daily

https://www.wsj.com/finance/stocks/the-adre...share_permalink

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WSJ FINANCE | INVESTING | HEARD ON THE STREET

Eye-Popping Yields Mask Paltry Returns From These Funds
A retail trading boom has spawned ETFs paying fat dividends, but caveat emptor

https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/eye-p...share_permalink
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post Jan 25 2024, 02:13 PM

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Tada tada... I like their marketing words:

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“The sales team will start the marketing by asking this to their clients: do you believe the CSI 500 could fall by more than 20 per cent? If not, you should buy a snowball as a safe bet,” said the head of a medium-sized Chinese brokerage that sells snowballs.
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Chinese retail investors hit by big losses in ‘snowball’ derivatives
Wipeout in contracts sold as safe investments is feeding erosion of confidence in domestic stocks, analysts say

by Cheng Leng in Hong Kong (41 MINUTES AGO)

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The Harbin ice festival in north-east China. Sales of so-called snowball derivatives, named because of the steady returns they can accumulate for holders, rose in 2021 as retail investors chased higher yields © Andrea Verdelli/Bloomberg


Chinese retail investors who loaded up on derivatives that rely on calm market conditions have been hit with heavy losses, further undermining confidence in the country’s sputtering equity market.

So-called snowballs, which promise a stream of sizeable interest payments as long as stock indices trade within a certain range, have grown to an estimated Rmb320bn ($45bn) market in China.

Brokerages and private wealth managers increased sales of such derivatives — named because of the steady returns they can accumulate for holders — in 2021, touting the higher yields on offer at a time when equity markets were relatively placid.

But a protracted stock rout since late 2023 has led to indices breaching a lower limit embedded in the contracts, triggering so-called knock-ins that leave many holders facing substantial losses on their original investment unless stocks rebound.

Most of the estimated Rmb327.5bn of outstanding snowballs are tied to the CSI 500 index of Shanghai- and Shenzhen-listed stocks and its small-cap counterpart the CSI 1000, according to Zhao Wei, an analyst Sinolink Securities.

Zhao said there had been a “wave” of snowballs “knocked in” when some Chinese stocks sank to a five-year low this week. Markets have since been steadied by Chinese Premier Li Qiang’s promise of “forceful” state support to halt the sell-off.

Retail investors are now left nursing big losses on investments they say were marketed as relatively safe alternatives to bank deposits.

“The sales team will start the marketing by asking this to their clients: do you believe the CSI 500 could fall by more than 20 per cent? If not, you should buy a snowball as a safe bet,” said the head of a medium-sized Chinese brokerage that sells snowballs.

Stephanie Liu, a 34-year-old clerk working in Shanghai, clubbed together with friends to buy Rmb1mn worth of snowballs in June 2022. The contracts offered a 15 per cent yield over two years as long as the CSI 500 did not fall more than 20 per cent or rise more than 3 per cent.

Now her contract is on the verge of a “knock-in” threshold that would trigger a 20 per cent loss on her original capital unless there is a significant market rebound by June.

“I feel helpless and guilty [because of] my friends,” she said. “It is a situation that has no solution. It’s not the right question to ask why we bought snowballs, but why the index is performing like this.”

Despite their small size relative to the Chinese equity market as a whole, analysts said the wipeout for some snowball holders could exacerbate the country’s stock rout. Brokerages that sell the contracts typically buy stock futures to hedge their position. When knock-ins are triggered, they have to sell those hedges.

“In a downturn market, futures trading in link with snowball positions could intensify the selling pressure on Chinese stocks,” said Yu Mingming, an analyst at brokerage Cinda Securities.

The China Securities Regulatory Commission urged brokers in 2021 to strengthen their risk controls on snowballs and refrain from marketing them as fixed-income products. Still, the sector remains relatively loosely regulated.

The CSRC did not immediately reply to a request for comment.

Complex derivatives in products such as snowballs have backfired for Asian investors before.

In 2009 several major banks lost heavily after South Korean courts extricated hundreds of companies from contracts that could prove ruinous if the won moved outside set ranges.

South Korean retail investors’ appetite for so-called autocallables has also been blamed for hurting European stocks and depressing US stock volatility.

Additional reporting by Jennifer Hughes in New York
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post Jan 29 2024, 09:23 PM

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Sifu sifus, me being the newbie with cc would need some guidance for the query

If my based price 1.00 and set strike price 1.20, upon expiry date the based price drop to 0.90, am I force to jual the share upon expire with loses? Unless I kasi close the call before expiry to retain the stock with penalty on the commission and premium? Same with i kasi rollover to new date

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post Jan 29 2024, 09:56 PM

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hmm your post not so clear, i'll have to make some guesses

cc is covered call right?
so your scenario is, you have 100 shares of $XXX, that you purchased at $1.00. and you sell 1 out-the-money call with a strike price of $1.20?

if share price drop to $0.90, your short position still OTM, the buyer will rugi if he call away your stocks.

if my understanding is wrong, do elaborate further
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post Jan 30 2024, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jan 29 2024, 09:56 PM)
hmm your post not so clear, i'll have to make some guesses

cc is covered call right?
so your scenario is, you have 100 shares of $XXX, that you purchased at $1.00. and you sell 1 out-the-money call with a strike price of $1.20?

if share price drop to $0.90, your short position still OTM, the buyer will rugi if he call away your stocks.

if my understanding is wrong, do elaborate further
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Yea covered call, if OTM drop below the based price I thought the seller will rugi cuz jual at discounted price (since jual below the based price) minus off the premium? No ka? No I x paham eh
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post Jan 30 2024, 05:47 PM

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if you have an OTM call at $1.20, and shares at $1.00, means if the buyer want to execute, he'll be buying the shares from you at $1.20. paham? so that's why it's worthless (and you get to keep the premium you received)

if shares at $0.90, that OTM call will still be $1.20 regardless

This post has been edited by Medufsaid: Jan 30 2024, 06:01 PM
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post Feb 10 2024, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jan 30 2024, 05:47 PM)
if you have an OTM call at $1.20, and shares at $1.00, means if the buyer want to execute, he'll be buying the shares from you at $1.20. paham? so that's why it's worthless (and you get to keep the premium you received)

if shares at $0.90, that OTM call will still be $1.20 regardless
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Aiyo now terbaik jor... Tu pltr ATH edy. If CC dah expired I terpaksa jual at lost la... (all the gains after OTM)
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post Feb 10 2024, 04:37 PM

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really don't feel like layan posts that sounds like borderline trolling esp on a peaceful holiday, but i decide the post above might mislead newbies...

when you sell covered calls and it expired worthless, even if $PLTR goes up to $100 or $1000, you don't have to honour your short position, because it has already expired
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post May 15 2024, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(Nemozai @ May 15 2024, 07:07 PM)
Just curious what foreign investment can generate positive free cash flow monthly ? Dividend u mean ?
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Selling options + dividend investing. Selling options allow me to do early FIRE than when I can actually FIRE if I were to depend on dividends alone. It's able to generate like 70-100% of my monthly salary per month.

Dividend is super slow and need huge capital. Take the premium from options with salary and buy.
1. Quality companies regardless if they pay dividends or not.
2. If they pay dividends, my criteria is at least 10%p.a raise in my dividend ls for past 5 years.

Options is basically like another me earning money.
Eg.
Me say earning RM10k/month
Options can help by contribute another RM7-10k/month
Dividends help by extra RM2100/month.

Above numbers are just example. You get the idea.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: May 15 2024, 07:20 PM
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post May 17 2024, 04:46 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 15 2024, 07:19 PM)
Selling options + dividend investing. Selling options allow me to do early FIRE than when I can actually FIRE if I were to depend on dividends alone. It's able to generate like 70-100% of my monthly salary per month.

Dividend is super slow and need huge capital. Take the premium from options with salary and buy.
1. Quality companies regardless if they pay dividends or not.
2. If they pay dividends, my criteria is at least 10%p.a raise in my dividend ls for past 5 years.

Options is basically like another me earning money.
Eg.
Me say earning RM10k/month
Options can help by contribute another RM7-10k/month
Dividends help by extra RM2100/month.

Above numbers are just example. You get the idea.
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On selling options, what is your average % of gains monthly? Friend told me his average spread out for 2023 was 3%/month. His moomoo acc balance has grown usd60k in last 3 months. He has not lost since doing sell options whether market up or down. What is d best way to learn selling options?
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QUOTE(MGM @ May 17 2024, 04:46 AM)
On selling options, what is your average % of gains monthly? Friend told me his average spread out for 2023 was 3%/month. His moomoo acc balance has grown usd60k in last 3 months. He has not lost since doing sell options whether market up or down. What is d best way to learn selling options?
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I don't look at %. I look at cash received. I aim USD350-700/week.
Youtube. YouTube taught me the basics. Rest is experiment with real money.
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post Jun 1 2024, 09:40 PM

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NVDA's rally in the past week has been driven by the option market's "gamma squeeze".

https://archive.ph/IoCPr
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I just started options trading this month. Using my Schwab account. Restricted to 'safe' strategies for now. Also, limited by the stocks I currently own, which are not the best for CC strategy. Projected to make 1% this month, i.e., 12% a year. Aim to increase this over the next few months.

I also just got my Moomoo SG account approved. Thanks to Medufsaid for the account opening guide. Looking to start trading on this soon once I transfer over some USD. This one does not seems to have any strategy restrictions. We'll see.

Happy trading!
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Bloomberg Technology: Goldman Team Finds Alternative to Crowded TSMC Arbitrage Trade

Trading desk advises a put strategy to monetize ADR premium
ADRs have surged more than Taiwan stock on AI frenzy in the US

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FT Exchange traded funds

Strategy guarding against sharp swings pummeled by market sell-off
‘Covered call’ ETFs were supposed to be a goldilocks investment but are not immune from sharp downturns

https://www.ft.com/content/2d2ce18b-f842-49...bf-f4b8c1190c0d

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post Sep 10 2024, 10:49 PM

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WSJ FINANCE | STOCKS

The Boom in Zero-Day Options Is Coming for Tesla and Nvidia
Brokers and exchanges discuss expanding #0dte to options on individual stocks

https://www.wsj.com/finance/stocks/the-boom...share_permalink
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For those interested in harvesting "volatility risk premium" by selling covered calls and puts (i.e. delta-hedged options).

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Volatility risk premia refers to the fact that on average implied volatility in many asset classes is above realized volatility. This phenomenon can be consistently modeled withing incomplete markets framework, for example jump-di↵usion or stochastic volatility models. The situation is particularly clear in the equities space, where the risk premia harvested in “normal” times, via, say selling a portfolio of Delta-hedged options (e.g. in [Bakshi and Kapadia, 2015]), is partially paid back in the stressed regimes during which the Delta-hedged options portfolio, which is short Gamma, suffers losses.

In this project, we do simulations on harvesting volatility risk premia by short selling delta hedged options under different model assumptions and compare with the
theoretical gains by theoretical derivation. We found that both stochastic volatility and jumps will cause loss in our delta hedged option portfolio and there could be extremely large potential loss due to jumps. Finally, we also tests when volatility risk premia are harvested via volatility swap, how the delta hedged option’s value will change with different parameters


https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-c...Lu_01210524.pdf

A very recent masters thesis from an Imperial maths student.

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