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SUSceo684
post Oct 8 2021, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(inmyownmind @ Oct 8 2021, 03:02 PM)
Would an aluminium frame be sufficient? There’s suggestion of using a thicker and better quality aluminium such as awning types
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Alu profile can do the frame. Full alu cabinet as in every single component is alu, no formica or melamine (chipboard cannot get wet) Top with quartz or whatever synth stone top as desired. Hang on rail like ikea metod rail with brackets.

This metod rail https://www.ikea.com/my/en/p/metod-suspensi...nised-90271030/ will take care of all the weight if divided by 10pcs 2 inch screws/wall plug. UDL loading whole slab with sink barely few kg per wall plug. Can increase interval of mounts to the wall to maybe 12 or 15. x weight /12 or /15 is very little load per hole.

Materials wise all available even on shopee.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Oct 8 2021, 08:32 PM
TSinmyownmind
post Oct 8 2021, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Oct 8 2021, 06:36 PM)
You can do L slab as per your last pic before the layout plan. Make sure u ask the contractor do water proofing if it is cement slab.

You need to decide the finishing layer will raw or tiles. Not sure if you using stone. If using stone, make sure waterproofing the bottom layer of stone too before put on cement.

You also need to talk to your cabinet maker whether they ok or not; and how they want to mount.
Ask them show you excactly how to mount and get cement contractor to join the discussion.
Ask how is the water outlet is to be done, must get both understand.
How is the basin is place n mount.
Make sure the propose method allow you to change the water tap (basin cannot change is norm for these design).

Also, fyi the cabinet below basin is dummy. It is reserve for water trap.

Your table top is 2.5m, is doable with cement and reebar. Up to 3m still ok one.
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Thanks for your input smile.gif

To clarify, your suggestion here implies that going with a concrete top with rebar is doable, and the brick wall should hold this structure well (with basin above and and cabinets beneath).

As for a thick counter top look, I’d be looking at fitting tiles or stone material at the side and front right?
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post Oct 8 2021, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(metalfire @ Oct 8 2021, 06:59 PM)
May I enquire what is the measurement of the master bathroom (as in how big) ?
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Will get my constructor to obtain a precise measurement tmr smile.gif
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post Oct 8 2021, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Oct 8 2021, 07:23 PM)
With that space.   I rather have a bathtub
Airbrick is lightweight brick with air bubbles in it.
Avoid wood in bathroom.
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Unfortunately the space isn’t sufficient to fit a bathtub and a separate shower area. (Not a big bath tub user myself so that’s all good)
I’m definitely keen on getting this extra thick countertop floating vanity style going tho

This post has been edited by inmyownmind: Oct 8 2021, 09:37 PM
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post Oct 8 2021, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(inmyownmind @ Oct 8 2021, 09:30 PM)
Thanks for your input smile.gif

To clarify, your suggestion here implies that going with a concrete top with rebar is doable, and the brick wall should hold this structure well (with basin above and and cabinets beneath).

As for a thick counter top look, I’d be looking at fitting tiles or stone material at the side and front right?
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Yes. But talk to your contractor. Really depend from person to person. You and your 2 gf can even stand on the top once finish..

Do note there is minimum thickness of about >2.5 inches-ish as the reebar need to encast in cement. Very important to waterproof the slab before putting finishing layer (tiles, stone etc). If this step is skip, the cabinet will damp. For bottom of basin (water trap), you dont even need cover the bottom panel; just cabinet door for visual purpose.

If stone slab, waterproof the cement slab AND bottom facing of the stone.

If you intend to use tiles, bigger tiles will have less grout line but it is really depend your design and how messy you are in using basin. The table top depth and lenght should follow or adjust with tile size increment so less issue with workmanship (eg 2ft, 1 or 2x1.5ft, 2 or 3x1ft etc depth); not much choice and this will predetermine your basin size as well.

This post has been edited by chamelion: Oct 8 2021, 10:42 PM
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post Oct 9 2021, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 8 2021, 08:27 PM)
Alu profile can do the frame. Full alu cabinet as in every single component is alu, no formica or melamine (chipboard cannot get wet) Top with quartz or whatever synth stone top as desired. Hang on rail like ikea metod rail with brackets.

This metod rail https://www.ikea.com/my/en/p/metod-suspensi...nised-90271030/ will take care of all the weight if divided by 10pcs 2 inch screws/wall plug. UDL loading whole slab with sink barely few kg per wall plug. Can increase interval of mounts to the wall to maybe 12 or 15. x weight /12 or /15 is very little load per hole.

Materials wise all available even on shopee.
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Thanks for your input on this.
Will look into using full aluminium structures with a stone top as an alternative
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post Oct 10 2021, 08:08 AM

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Based on your intended design the best is to use L-Angle bracket c/w plywood backing as supporting frame for your stone.

On the thick stone surface, is just a fascia cover surface. Thick thickness is still as per normal range 18-25mm depending type of stone.

On concrete slab, not really practical for this kind of design due to one is fully cantilever. Chances of slanting is very high. Furthermore concrete itself is having much higher self weight.


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post Oct 10 2021, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(sl2007 @ Oct 10 2021, 08:08 AM)
Based on your intended design the best is to use L-Angle bracket c/w plywood backing as supporting frame for your stone.

On the thick stone surface, is just a fascia cover surface. Thick thickness is still as per normal range 18-25mm depending type of stone.

On concrete slab, not really practical for this kind of design due to one is fully cantilever. Chances of slanting is very high. Furthermore concrete itself is having much higher self weight.
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Will there be a concern of plywood backing and high humidity bathroom area for the long term use? Since there’s suggestion of avoiding any wood material in the bathroom if possible. Aluminium backing instead of plywood possible?

So for the thick stone countertop surface, as long as there’s a cabinet frame then can mount the stone surface on the sides to create a thick look right?
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post Oct 10 2021, 10:32 PM

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If it is dry area. Just do cabinet with wall plug to wall, with whatever top finishes.

If it is wet then do metal bracket with whatever top finishes. Concrete top is also doable.

Actually if your contractor skill is limited then don't force it, you will end up regret it for the sub par work afterward.
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post Oct 10 2021, 10:40 PM

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https://prnt.sc/1vl03mx

What I did for my client. Marine ply cabinet with tiles finish hanging cabinet.
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post Oct 15 2021, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(inmyownmind @ Oct 10 2021, 10:25 PM)
Will there be a concern of plywood backing and high humidity bathroom area for the long term use? Since there’s suggestion of avoiding any wood material in the bathroom if possible. Aluminium backing instead of plywood possible?

So for the thick stone countertop surface, as long as there’s a cabinet frame then can mount the stone surface on the sides to create a thick look right?
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If you concerned on timber material.. I suggest you can have a steel structure as the carcass. since is using in the toilet, send for galvanising..



 

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