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Cubalagi
post Apr 7 2025, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 7 2025, 03:55 PM)
Thank you for your input, bro,... we have different lifestyles,...  biggrin.gif

My kids,... I noticed I'm not comfortable to talk abt trading, investments, etc in front of them,... I just feel it is NOT healthy. My gut feel tells me it's not good to signal these things to young people,... they will think this is a shortcut to succeeding in life.

Yeah,.. I too support them in their chosen careers,... go as far and as high-up as possible,....
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My investment philosophy is that I invest not to be rich but to avoid being poor when Im old.

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post Apr 16 2025, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Apr 15 2025, 10:28 AM)
any good "retirement calculator"/more relevant to Malaysia use case that you guys are using to calculate your retirement/FIRE amount?

want to do some final cross checks before making the eventual jump
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Is this one good enough?

https://www.mycalculators.com/ca/retcalc2m.html
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post Apr 20 2025, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(ruben7389 @ Apr 20 2025, 04:52 AM)
Also for the retired guys, more of a personal question.

What do u guys do to occupy urselves? Myself FIRE about 10 years, spent couple of years travelling and of course few years went towards covid etc etc. Now sometimes find myself too much time don't know what to do as all those in my age group working still

Sometimes but boring la, so much time only to watch YouTube, exercise, read, watch my fishes, etc etc

Mind to share some stuff u guys do to release the boredom
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No kids?

10 years retired, how old are u now?

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post Apr 21 2025, 09:05 PM

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For financial.planning purposes, my target age is 90. At which point my principal.will be zero. Net worth will only be left with properties (if these still.exist, climate change and all that). By around 70s, the plan will start to eat into principal.

Of course this is just planning at this point. Currently in early 50s and still working. Surely will hv adjustments. Also doesnt mean I hope or wish to live until 90 or beyond.

And also starting to exercise seriously now. Weight training and running mostly.

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post Apr 21 2025, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 21 2025, 10:53 PM)
curious... I assume you used some calculator to do the forecasting and it shows that around 70, your plan starts to deplete your principal.
If you reduce a bit of your withdrawal rate by like 20 to 40 bps, is that sufficient to keep your principal intact?
like say 3.5% down to 3.1%?

would that be worth a consideration?
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Of course, if I reduce withdrawal then there will be capital intact. But, I dont want the capital to be intact. I want to spend the savings I worked hard for all those years if I can. At same time, being aware of the risk of running out b4 I die and be a burden.





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post Apr 22 2025, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 21 2025, 11:34 PM)
understand... very rare to know of a person that is ok to drawdown on principal...
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At 90, my kid will be 60. Why should I downgrade my retirement life in order for him to get a few millions? I save for my retirement, not for his 😆 .its only if I kaput earlier will he get some.



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post Apr 22 2025, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 22 2025, 08:04 AM)
Yes to each his own but our time is different n much easier to accumulate wealth, the new generation will have it TOUGH in jobs & biz due to decoupling & AI unless they got inheritance.
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Personally, I rather support my kid if necessary when Im still alive and he is younger, then to wait for him to be at retirement age and give him a windfall when Im dead.

QUOTE(dwRK @ Apr 22 2025, 07:59 AM)
lots of ppl drawdown principal... not rare at all...

giving fire level type principal to the kids at one's expense... now that is rare...
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True..based on epf statistics most ppl will be 0 just a few years into retirement.

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 22 2025, 04:52 PM)
Yeah. That's why I earlier said rare for drawdown of principal.
But it turns out depends on how one view it.

Cos if got large leftover upon us kicking the bucket, did we really planned to drawdown on the principal?
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Yes..if u put your "expiry date" too far away like 110, 120, its practically the same as not touching capital at all and just using the income/interest throughout your retirement life.

The difference in monthly/annual retirement income can be significant enough which could be several.nice memorable holidays, a new car, giving more to your family (when you are alive and can share happiness together) and so forth.
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QUOTE(frostfrench @ Aug 15 2025, 12:02 PM)
I have been FI for few years, and this week, I have been thinking my child's uni education, which going to happen in 9 years time.

I was wondering, what are the ways u guys are doing for yr child's uni education? Hoping I will be well prepared smile.gif
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"Child" singular..so thats easier.

Its just like budgeting for something like retirement. U need an X target and figure out how to get there in 9 years.

U have to do a lot of research on X target. The good thing about X target is that its not necessary to pay all at once. Its staggered. Also remember that there is pre-u to consider which may not be cheap depending on the route.


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QUOTE(magika @ Aug 21 2025, 11:03 AM)
Now now 7 million for FIRE ?  Going to scare lots of people.  blink.gif
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All these numbers will vary for different people.

3 key factors:

1. When is the person retirement date? To retire next year is not the same compare to retirement 20 years from now due to inflation.

2. How old when retire? There is a big difference between retiring at 60 and retiring FIRE at 40. Assuming 80 year lifespan, those who retire at 60 need to provide for 20 years of no active income. Those who retire at 40 need to provide for 40 years. Double the number of years and still have to factor in inflation.

3. Status of dependants esp kids. Those who retire when their kids are already working will need far less than a person who retires when the kids are still schooling. The later requires their retirement pot to be deep enough to cater for the kids education which is also highly inflationary.

Me..target to retire at 55 (just a few years away), kid should already be working (hopefully). Quite comfortable with my plan.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 23 2025, 07:38 PM)
I need my b40 lifestyle to send kids overseas. If they are staying on Malaysia can ease off the gas pedal.

But need to grind for them.
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Bro..when did u get married and have kids?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 24 2025, 09:31 AM)
Coming soon. Getting married next year.
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Well done and all the best bro!

Btw if having baby, pre-natal and post-natal care not cheap, unless u also plan B40 way for this?

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post Aug 25 2025, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 25 2025, 09:52 AM)
Pre natal just go klinik kesihatan. Govt hospital is the best for delivery as
1. They have ICU backup in case anything happens.
2. Most private hospital does not have any support for babies so they will just die if anything happen (I am not talking about Subang or Sunway)

There are ways to make post natal cheap.
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If KKM clinic for check-ups and govt hospital for delivery, then its very cheap. Assuming ur gf agrees.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 29 2025, 12:51 PM)
I don't count my investment income as I am not touching it yet. I am actively reinvesting it.
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Fair enough..like people shouldnt count their kwsp dividends as income, unless they retire.
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Aug 31 2025, 11:08 AM)
guy3288

my friend worked his way up from kuli to ceo of a big prop developer... he fire at 55...

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55 consider FIRE? Back in 2000, that was still the official retirement age. If target is 55, then no need to live a B40 life when younger. Just save a bit extra.

Anyway, 55 is my retirement target. 30 years working and paying income tax.

But only semi-retire, will.still.look for something part time until cannot work anymore. Probably will still be paying income tax, but less I hope.


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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 4 2025, 08:22 AM)
guy3288 nah this is something like what I said. You can say no to your boss and walk off because you have options.
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One can also walk put from a job without fully FI if you are in demand as a worker. This usually require experience and indusry network, which one need to build over the years.

My current boss is the fierce and rude type. But with me, he control, coz he knows if he OTT with me, I can walk out and go to the competitors.


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Health is wealth!

Something I realized is that improving health has paralels to increasing wealth. There is a compounding effect in play. Very incremental changes that snowball over time.

Change to a healthier lifestyle, then there is a positive compounding effect. Like ones epf.

Start living a unhealthy lifestyle, then its negative compounding. Its like not paying credit card statement on full. Slowly over time, the debt gets bigger until u go bankrupt.

As like building wealth, the earlier the positive compounding starts the better. But also, even if start late, there are big benefits.

However, ultimately, we are mortals. There is an expiry date to life. We need to balance with living an enjoyable life.



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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 6 2025, 07:33 PM)
ya like Asset Allocation = Food Macros Diet; Equities Vs Fixed Income Vs Alternative = Protein Vs Carbs Vs Fiber & Fats  biggrin.gif
Asset rebalancing = Diet adjustment when too fat/thin  laugh.gif

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I have more weightage in exercise than diet.

Not saying diet is unimportant, but if you are on point on the exercise part, you can afford to be a bit more cincai on the diet part. Key word being "a bit"..like having the occassional char kue teow, kfc etc.

And on point is meeting the min health recommendations of150 minutes of moderate cardio exercise/75 minutes hard cardio/mix and 30-60 minutes strenght training per week.

QUOTE(MUM @ Sep 6 2025, 10:38 AM)
Thanks for telling,

Huumph, i wonder why it is not in kkm health screening test recommendation to the general public or recommended by the usual doctors in the clinic?.

Judging from this article,
Perhaps it is very expensive or there are cheaper test or alternate tests that can yield the same results in predicting the possible coming of a certain disease?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38033754/
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My clinic does ApoB test for RM50.RM50 for one test is too expensive to be required for the general.public.

ApoB is another test if you want a more accurate picture of your cholesterol levels.

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 9 2025, 08:56 PM)
err that's not what it actually meant but nvm :grin:

and since you mentioned your actual SWR I calculated mine using my last 12 months withdrawal over total invested... 0.75% sweat.gif

guess I need to go back to look at my spending already
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0.75% per year at retirement?

Thats way too much underspending.

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post Sep 10 2025, 08:59 PM

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My retirement funds consist of EPF and a DIY investment portfolio. Still a few years off to retirement, but its looking like it will be about 60:40 on retirement but markets could change.

In terms of withdrawal strategy, it will be withdrawing from both i.e. whatever the ratio then, unless the DIY portfolio turns negative for the year, which EPF will be 100%.

I also have some properties but I dont count that as retirement fund. Can be liquidated in the future if get good price.

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