According to this guy, Tunisian had back down on the Kuwaiti hornet acquisition few days before. Is it true?

If it's true, can we get all 28, add to our 8 and get 36. Enough for 2 full squadron


It seem earlier report that Kuwaiti super hornet being delayed to 2025 isn't true at all. The super hornet are ready and the legacy hornet can be retired.



https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-det...ries-for-kuwait

If available,we will get some of the aircrafts,not all..

Brand new super tucano or air tractor at-802u should be way cheaper

Good deal tbh. Better used goods than no planes at all.

How they deliver?

J&T

rosak later kena thrown and smashed to the floor 😔

Buy used need to upgrade this and repair that.
Might as well buy new.

Not suitable for rmaf requirement

Rmaf need supersonic jets to patrol South China sea not counter insurgency aircraft

This post has been edited by Raddus: Oct 2 2021, 08:19 PM

Most suitable plane for Malaysia is Tejas because delivery can become like gowind

Wanna hope so but don't wanna hold my breath for it.

Also, hopefully this won't make the govt to be even more complacent with future procurement.

The recon F18 are 28 years old, 5 years older than our F18.

Why not buy from da ge?

Haha, US using their Muslim proxy to 'help' Malaysia fight China.

Come on Malaysia, u know u want to shoot at China boats right?

Yeah but they don't use it much. So it's got 10 -15 more years of flying left.

US, UK, AUSSIE dowan to direct fight.
So they finding 'macai' to fight.
Malaysia is good candidate.

Buy in bulk lah. Can get discount.

36 T7 + 28 retrofitted hornet from Boeing for a total of 64 jet.

Terus our AF get 90 jet.

Can be 2nd strongest in ASEAN.

The easiest n fastest way to boost our military is to get these jets. Also arming the Kedahs.

Knowing how the leadership working. Buying used American jets how to earn commission ?

The formula is not right. Chances are low.

aku suka ulasan yang ni lagi.

U know China building our Naval boat rite?

cukur if dapat some of their hornets.

cukur if dapat some of their hornets.

This one cheaper. Please support barangan keluaran tempatan.

This jet for cinis people sembahyang one. Burn it

Bukan ulasan yg sama ke?

Ada maksud tersirat ke boss?


This post has been edited by darth5zaft: Oct 3 2021, 08:21 AM

ada TLDR?

Which priority right now for TUDM the LCA/FLIT or the Kuwaiti Hornets?

for a country that will never use it, maybe dont get so much when people are hungry?

Super tucano is cool, reminds me of Mustang fighter of WW2.

buy secondhand?

Thought the original idea was for a FLIT that can do LCA with BVR capabilities. An impossible tasks because no such jet exist.


Seem MRCA has been re included in RMK12



https://defencesecurityasia.com/lapan-buah-...-mrss-dan-ngpv/

So both?

This post has been edited by darth5zaft: Oct 3 2021, 08:34 AM

Harga sedara mara

1 million Dolah each, can use for 10 years

New cost 70 million dollars can use for 30 years.




This post has been edited by darth5zaft: Oct 3 2021, 08:36 AM

Its actually nothing to do with any other thing except which deal can SONGLAP the most

so how much songlap into whose helangs pockets ?

Menteri said huat ar!!! boleh jual lagi... hahahaha

da ge aircraft got backdoor spyware to spy where your air force is doing

also da ge not so easy to sell their things to you

da ge always expects some thing big in return

like sri lanka port, or that macedonia highway...which put the whole nation in big debt.

da ge is a loan shark, they borrow high interest until country cannot repay then they take all they want

ask bigbro china maybe can get free made in china jet

which one is more important for current needs ?

36 yo Cristiano Ronaldo or 22 yr old Jadon Sancho ?

Yes hornets are old, but we need them now to fend off China air incursions.

love this TUDM Hornet air refuelling pic with Australian tanker during Pitch Black exercise....



A TUDM F/A-18D uploads fuel from a Royal Australian Air Force KC-30A tanker during Pitch Black.



https://www.airinternational.com/article/ma...-mighty-hornets

Can hutang summore, sama2 OIC. Pandai dis tok arab..

patut la mmg amik dari rentaka pun

Kuwait Hornet is old and outdated
if RMAF buys then need to fork out more to upgrade until current RMAF hornet level
Right now even Hawk radar is better then the Hornet Kuwait's

this Hornets will not interfere with LCA/FLIT/LIFT program

This post has been edited by atreyuangel: Oct 3 2021, 12:39 PM

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.... but I suspect this deal have "udang di sebalik batu"?


For LCA, better get korean KAI T-50 Golden Eagle plus several endurance drones for long-range maritime patrol.

US deals can be as transparent as they can be,
all transaction will be written in the congress report and can be retrieve for review

even when we bought from Kuwait, the transaction still will have to go thru US

why do you think atuk are not keen to have US made asset!

This post has been edited by atreyuangel: Oct 3 2021, 02:54 PM

Beli pakai as it is boleh?
Or at least need a wee bit of upgrade?

Why after so long Taiwan still not fighting China?

Their best chance was during Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution but they were not successful. Now, they don’t even dream about it anymore 😜

No lah.

Rugi beli cannot shoot Singapore

Buy 2nd hand planes later crush, the engine have reached the life cycle already after so many years. Better buy new planes 2nd or 3rd generation types will do.

Habih barai la enjin jet dia, kena kebas dgn budak rempit bubuh kat ysuku depa.

Boleh setakat nak round2 dekat sarawak oil platform tu, kasi takut China border patrol ship

This is the best option for RMAF

Best case scenario: USD 1 million per unit . Upgrade cost: USD 3.8 million per unit. Canada upgrade radar to AESA standard at that price. Total unit price: USC 4.8 million per unit . Can use for max 15 years.

PLESE STOP WASTING TAX PAYER MONEY

We must buy the best of the best which is the TEJAS

At least radio kene tukar pasal semua radio system dlm RMAF dari sistem sama

tapi sayang la takde network centric awareness situation nanti

jet much more capable tapi ngan TUDM BAe Hawk pun kalah dari segi sensor ngan weaponry

tak ada kaitan langsung apa yang diulas rentaka dengan jehud sama zionis

Boleh terus cucuk Aje ke?
Nak kena tukar onboard computer gak kan?

Ok lah tu, LCA katanya budget $50 mil per jet. Dah ada hibah hornets Amek Aje lah T7 basic $25 mil per jet. Ada lagi $25 juta nak upgrade hornet, beli missiles semua.

Kalau nasib baik, lagi 15 tahun, Boeing dah upgrade T7 boleh Aje pindah senjata dari hornet ke T7

Kalau jadi Amek terus borong semua 28 kan?
Sebab MIG punya squadron dah reactivated

10 upgrades kaw kaw, lagi 18 upgrade cukup cukup makan buat interceptor?

project saling menolong

every helang wins

boleh upgrade kan

looking at our own hornet the support from US is tiktok liaoo...no issue parts etc

so i imagine the hibah hornet would be the same

After these plane become not airworthy, nak angkat apa?

should get this :

Nanti deliver to wrong address. Need to raise return/refund request. Manyak susah.

demand Kuwait 51% of their jets lah why not

yeah the better option is certainly China who just straight up took our lands

moron

good writeup. I only dispute this part:

F/A-18D TUDM kini telah hampir menyamai keupayaannya dengan keupayaan pesawat F/A-18F Super Hornet

that hampir is quite far off

girl who looks hot but 2 fella already dump her last minute, maybe think twice.... do not stick your dick in crazy



nobody uses Tornado any more

also it is not a good air superiority fighter; it was designed as an interceptor and fast bomb truck; focus was on low-level speed at the expense of high-level manoeuvreability

Bersangka baik.

Uncle Sam dia tak suka anak sedara dia kawin dengan can & tun.
Dia nak bagi kat mal.😂

Squadron je activate, staff ada tuu
tapi kapal terbang takde kikiki

the cost of upgrading into our current hornet level.
mahal gak la

mana orang pakai dah ni bang oi


Well, I think they are not far of
as right now some of the hornet is currently undergoing upgrade process in Bagan (it was suppose to be done in OZ) with the help of Swiss , USMC and USN.
when the process is finish the Legacy can be sit beside Super Hornet Block 1

is it worth it?

Asal activated awal sangat.

Kalau tak jadi Amek mau jadi bahan lawak jiran sebelah ni.

awal la baguih,
tak kalut.

Hornet Kuwait ni memang 50/50 tu pasal masuk ke tidak tak jejas pun program LCA/LIFT tu

Personally, buy jer LA... Not like our budget can afford anything new that fulfill every role. Budget proton but aiming for Honda civic Tubro. Side note, nonid upgrade until till premium version like super hornet.... Janji able to Use and defend our airspace is cukup.

Most people haven't notice is....this fighter jet park inside hanger most of time.. Not like your daily driven car ,start engine and be driven everyday.

This post has been edited by TRAZE99: Oct 4 2021, 12:04 AM

It is a good strategy by TUDM. Firstly TUDM technical staff and engineers have 25 years of maintaining and upgrading TUDM 8 unit of F18D Hornet to F18D-25C Hornet. And for the past 25 years since 1995 non of the 8 F18D Hornet has any incident. Hence maintenance no issue. Pilot also familiar only when get more jets need more pilot

If unable to get 28 but if can get 16 from kuwait with F18C and F18D variant and upgrade to same standard as current 8TUDM F18D it would be good , then TUDM will have 24 F18D / C Hornets.

The area maybe is the improve the cockpit to LCD display , with GPS

Looking at current and next few years situation, it is worth to look at this jets

If buy cheap, replace with brand new engines and re-strengthen airframe, may last 20 more years.

Tudm pilots are flying the F18D tandem seat with new LCD screen cockpit

Yes, the F18D Hornet GE F404 turbofan engine still on production. Cos GE also sell the engine to Tejas and Korea . Reading from spec a twin engine F18D would do a max 1.8 mach. A twin engine F18 E superhornet also 1.8 mach using newer GE F414 turbofan.

This post has been edited by jwst1313: Oct 6 2021, 10:06 PM

there's a risk that because of the smallness of Kuwait that the airframe may age differently than what on the logbooks.

your info not complete yet.
should be finding macai what willing to pay and fight for them.

Taiwan is 1 of them, spend millions to billions to buy outdated USA military hardware in dream to fight devil CCP.

Hope malaysia is not so stupid like Taiwan.

could you point out outdated military hardware from US?

Malaysia is purely defensive no need to wipe out China

Just need enough to make it so it's not worth it for China to invade and claim Malaysia

Same as well as Taiwan.

All their purchase is to bite so hard that the Chinese would lose ten of thousands for an invasion that drag on for years to make it not Worth it for them Chinese to even try.

Yeah, Malaysian wumaos choose to surrender rather than be "stupid" like Taiwan, isn't it?

Get lube, open backside, fight off the rescuer because scared rapist will rape harder. Oh and volunteer to suck cock too so hopefully rapist will treat better

USa should sell F35 to Taiwan to counter J-20 (gen4.5 only) fighter.


only if you have a nuclear weapon, else you will not reach that level.


only stupid go bang head into the wall.

smart nations will use other methods to avoid it.

like how Euro nation, singapore and Thailand manage its relationship with China.

if you can't win them, be friend with them, you can bite back when you are strong enough.
this is how CCP is successful,

This post has been edited by angelgemini: Oct 9 2021, 01:44 AM

Being friends doesn't mean its ok for your friend to take your stuff and claim it as their own. boundaries must be respected

this is how malaysia works...if not repair how to songlap...

use brain and diplomat to solve the issue, and not brainless like Taiwan, go verbally attack ccp publicly.

If continue brainless like Taiwan, just will have more boundaries boundary invasion.

stupidity is no cure, also will do harm than good.

This post has been edited by angelgemini: Oct 9 2021, 02:07 AM

Your argument is because of Taiwan does not have F35 so this does means that all Taiwan military hardware is outdated?

u need latest war machine to fight CCP.
CCP have 4.5gen fighter, so if Taiwan really wish to defend themself, need gen5 fighter to effectively win CCP.

do you expect an old tech Gen4 fighter can with CCP Gen 4.5 fighter?

Taiwan requested to buy it but USA not willing to sell it to Taiwan.
They sell to Singapore also don;t sell to taiwan.

USA also go keep rogol Taiwan for own benefit.
Let USA rogol but cannot do anything, is really a pity.
better go check out how many company been rogol by USA "long-arm law".


https://techtaiwan.com/20210929/tsmc-neutrality-chip/

This post has been edited by angelgemini: Oct 9 2021, 02:17 AM

how convenient that the "smart methods" you describe amount to doing nothing

Maruah Wumao terchalla.

Taiwan can talk shit to tongsan because they know tongsan can't do anything to them.

Same as Sinkie CNA & EU media everyday talk shit about tongsan and even sanction them.

So whose the idiots here. Go fight a fight they couldn't win? Everyday talk kok about how everyone else should lie down quietly and let them get raped?

Wait 10.10 got discount.

Singapore was the F35 development partner
of course they will have the priority to have F35

having a stealth aircraft does not guarantee taiwan unable to fight back
you think there will be a direct head to head fight fighter between Taiwan and West Taiwan?

it will be the last thing that happened in a real world warfare between both of them
the are high chances that will be a ballistic missile battle over head to head air fights

btw hate it to break it to you but stealth jet are not "stealth" the time
even the mighty Raptor are visible on radar when the bay door opened

Taiwan vs China in war today is totally helpless as ROCAF will be outnumbered by superior fighters, outmissiles & outgunned by PLAAF & PLAN.

US selling F-35 to Taiwan, China can detect F-35 from its spy satellites and China's ECM capability would greatly reduced F-35 missiles effective range. F-35 internal bay can't carry much, not an ideal multi-role fighter unless it's willing to forgo stealth carrying external armaments. Without external load, it could carry only 4x AIM-120C7 with kill probability 50-60% or less against latest China's 4.5th generation fighters defensive avionics. J-16, J-20 are high speed interceptors, with satellite downlink, they can see the F-35 position and they'll go after the F-35 getting into range where stealth compromised then kill the slow fleeing F-35.

Current president Tsai DPP poking at China just to stir tension to distract everyone's attention away from her songlap. US would leave Taiwan on its own fate because there's no natural resources and Taiwan fell too soon. US fleet would be too vulnerable to China's retaliation

This post has been edited by jayraptor: Oct 9 2021, 08:45 AM

Kalo China & Taiwan berperang, pesawat ROCAF skrg takkan mampu melawan, hanya melengahkan masa & ditembak jatuh. Dgn bilangan pesawat & peluru berpandu PLAAF yg ada skrg, mrk boleh melancarkan 2-3 PL-12/15 pada setiap pesawat ROCAF. J-20 yg memiliki stealth akan terbang jauh di hadapan memasuki jarak peluru berpandu & melancarkan peluru berpandu ke arah pesawat ROCAF yg menumpukan pada pesawat PLAAF yg muncul pada muka radar jauh di barisan belakang. Tiada harapan utk Taiwan menang.

Expensive less reliable maintenance and obsolete.

wow.... now everyone can fly aircraft as well.

The engines you can replace, avionics you can upgrade as long as there's money. However the airframe is what matters. Fighter jets airframe over 30 years taken much punishment from high G force would require lots of patching, need to check their flying hours too. Not even US with much resources for maintenance could guarantee old over 30 years airframe could still fly in 1 piece that you can see their old ageing F-15C/E breaking apart in midair.

Better focus on building economy first then buy new nice fighter fleet. F/A-18E/F, J-10C, FC-31, Sukhoi checkmate. Or just buy new engines for all existing Su-30MKM getting them into operational status again. If China newer WS-10 engine variant is more reliable, consult Shenyang aeronautics whether the engine can be easily fitted to Su-30MKM.

hmmm i wonder if kuwait is us or china ally?

https://www.realclearworld.com/articles/201...lly_112871.html

nobody ask when talk kok sing song? LOL

This post has been edited by judas: Oct 9 2021, 09:33 AM

US also can do the same, like what you are stated
US have the most advance satellite in the world right now and even their commercial can go until 100m depth resolution

plus US have surveillance over china all the time even (well, they are paranoid)

so let me just entertain your idea of a torrent of J16 and J-20 going on massive Pre-Emptive strike on Taiwan
does not this massive movement on the air base will triggered the defcon of the US which lead to alerting its ally on the potential offensive activity.

Taiwan is not that dumb, they will retaliate as much as they can to defend themselves while waiting on it's ally to launch counter offensive towards China itself.

Like I always said, "the first one that pull the trigger will lose the war"

so nobody will actually pulls the trigger, acah2 victim je banyak baik Taiwan dan West Taiwan


Taiwan kalau serang China memang la tak akan menang
But if China is the one that pulls the first trigger then ROCAF may not win, tapi does nto meant that they unable to give a bloody eye or two. Taiwan also have almost the same doctrine as is which is defence and not offensive. One more thing that people always forget, stealth on radar does not meant there is no way for your enemy to detect you.