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post Oct 2 2021, 06:26 PM, updated 5y ago

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According to this guy, Tunisian had back down on the Kuwaiti hornet acquisition few days before. Is it true?

If it's true, can we get all 28, add to our 8 and get 36. Enough for 2 full squadron


It seem earlier report that Kuwaiti super hornet being delayed to 2025 isn't true at all. The super hornet are ready and the legacy hornet can be retired.

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Boeing completes Super Hornet deliveries for Kuwait
by Gareth Jennings

Boeing has completed delivery of 28 F/A-18E/F Super Hornet combat aircraft for Kuwait, transferring them to the US Navy (USN) ahead of their eventual handover to the customer.

A screenshot from a Boeing video showing the final Super Hornet for Kuwait departing St Louis on its delivery flight to the US Navy. (Boeing)
A screenshot from a Boeing video showing the final Super Hornet for Kuwait departing St Louis on its delivery flight to the US Navy. (Boeing)

The manufacturer announced the event on 2 September, posting a video of single-seat aircraft 822 departing its St Louis production facility in Missouri.

With Kuwait's 22 single-seat F/A-18Es and six twin-seat F/A-18Fs being contracted in a government-to-government deal, they have all been handed over to USN ahead of their expected transfer to the Kuwait Air Force (KAF) in the coming months (a precise timeline has not been disclosed). As previously reported by Janes, this delivery milestone was delayed slightly due to the effect of the Covid-19 pandemic.


https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-det...ries-for-kuwait

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post Oct 2 2021, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(usernama @ Oct 2 2021, 08:34 PM)
The recon F18 are 28 years old, 5 years older than our F18.
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Yeah but they don't use it much. So it's got 10 -15 more years of flying left.
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post Oct 2 2021, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(ledtechn @ Oct 2 2021, 08:05 PM)
Brand new super tucano or air tractor at-802u should be way cheaper
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Buy in bulk lah. Can get discount.

36 T7 + 28 retrofitted hornet from Boeing for a total of 64 jet.

Terus our AF get 90 jet.

Can be 2nd strongest in ASEAN.
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post Oct 3 2021, 06:06 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 3 2021, 12:01 AM)


aku suka ulasan yang ni lagi.
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Bukan ulasan yg sama ke?

Ada maksud tersirat ke boss?


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post Oct 3 2021, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 3 2021, 08:11 AM)
Which priority right now for TUDM the LCA/FLIT or the Kuwaiti Hornets?
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Thought the original idea was for a FLIT that can do LCA with BVR capabilities. An impossible tasks because no such jet exist.


Seem MRCA has been re included in RMK12

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Merangka beberapa perolehan aset baharu TUDM bagi memenuhi keperluan operasi seperti Fighter Lead=In Trainer (FLIT) – Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MRCA), Maritime Patrol Aircraft (MPA), Long Range Air Defence Radar, Medium-Range Air Defence Missile System (MERAD), Medium Altitude Long Endurance Unmanned Aerial System (MALE-UAS) dan Helikopter Utiliti


https://defencesecurityasia.com/lapan-buah-...-mrss-dan-ngpv/

So both?

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post Oct 3 2021, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Oct 3 2021, 08:24 AM)
buy secondhand?
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Harga sedara mara

1 million Dolah each, can use for 10 years

New cost 70 million dollars can use for 30 years.




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post Oct 3 2021, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 3 2021, 12:37 PM)
patut la mmg amik dari rentaka pun
Kuwait Hornet is old and outdated
if RMAF buys then need to fork out more to upgrade until current RMAF hornet level
Right now even Hawk radar is better then the Hornet Kuwait's
this Hornets will not interfere with LCA/FLIT/LIFT program
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Beli pakai as it is boleh?
Or at least need a wee bit of upgrade?
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post Oct 3 2021, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Csgopro123 @ Oct 3 2021, 05:01 PM)
The narrative is don't beli barangan yahoodee and zionis......
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No lah.

Rugi beli cannot shoot Singapore
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post Oct 3 2021, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(tokroni @ Oct 3 2021, 06:48 PM)
This is the best option for RMAF

Best case scenario: USD 1 million per unit . Upgrade cost: USD 3.8 million  per unit. Canada upgrade radar to AESA standard at that price. Total unit price: USC 4.8 million  per unit . Can use for max 15 years.
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Boleh terus cucuk Aje ke?
Nak kena tukar onboard computer gak kan?

Ok lah tu, LCA katanya budget $50 mil per jet. Dah ada hibah hornets Amek Aje lah T7 basic $25 mil per jet. Ada lagi $25 juta nak upgrade hornet, beli missiles semua.

Kalau nasib baik, lagi 15 tahun, Boeing dah upgrade T7 boleh Aje pindah senjata dari hornet ke T7
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post Oct 3 2021, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 3 2021, 07:56 PM)
At least radio kene tukar pasal semua radio system dlm RMAF dari sistem sama

tapi sayang la takde network centric awareness situation nanti

jet much more capable tapi ngan TUDM BAe Hawk pun kalah dari segi sensor ngan weaponry laugh.gif

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Kalau jadi Amek terus borong semua 28 kan?
Sebab MIG punya squadron dah reactivated

10 upgrades kaw kaw, lagi 18 upgrade cukup cukup makan buat interceptor?


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post Oct 3 2021, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Oct 3 2021, 08:46 PM)

girl who looks hot but 2 fella already dump her last minute, maybe think twice.... do not stick your dick in crazy

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Bersangka baik.

Uncle Sam dia tak suka anak sedara dia kawin dengan can & tun.
Dia nak bagi kat mal.😂
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post Oct 3 2021, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 3 2021, 09:29 PM)
Squadron je activate, staff ada tuu
tapi kapal terbang takde kikiki

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Asal activated awal sangat.

Kalau tak jadi Amek mau jadi bahan lawak jiran sebelah ni.
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post Oct 7 2021, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(jwst1313 @ Oct 6 2021, 09:53 PM)
It is a good strategy by TUDM. Firstly TUDM technical staff and engineers have 25 years of maintaining and upgrading TUDM 8 unit of F18D Hornet to F18D-25C Hornet. And for the past 25 years since 1995 non of the 8 F18D Hornet has any incident. Hence maintenance no issue. Pilot also familiar only when get more jets need more pilot

If unable to get 28 but if can get 16 from kuwait with F18C and F18D variant and upgrade to same standard as current  8TUDM F18D it would be good , then TUDM will have 24 F18D / C Hornets.

The area maybe is the improve the cockpit to LCD display , with GPS

Looking at current and next few years situation, it is worth to look at this jets
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there's a risk that because of the smallness of Kuwait that the airframe may age differently than what on the logbooks.


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post Oct 8 2021, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(Raddus @ Oct 8 2021, 08:14 PM)
Malaysia is purely defensive no need to wipe out China

Just need enough to make it so it's not worth it for China to invade and claim Malaysia
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Same as well as Taiwan.

All their purchase is to bite so hard that the Chinese would lose ten of thousands for an invasion that drag on for years to make it not Worth it for them Chinese to even try.
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post Oct 9 2021, 06:21 AM

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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Oct 9 2021, 02:06 AM)
use brain and diplomat to solve the issue, and not brainless like Taiwan, go verbally attack ccp publicly.

If continue brainless like Taiwan, just will have more boundaries boundary invasion.

stupidity is no cure, also will do harm than good.
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Maruah Wumao terchalla.

Taiwan can talk shit to tongsan because they know tongsan can't do anything to them.

Same as Sinkie CNA & EU media everyday talk shit about tongsan and even sanction them.

So whose the idiots here. Go fight a fight they couldn't win? Everyday talk kok about how everyone else should lie down quietly and let them get raped?
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post Oct 9 2021, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Oct 9 2021, 09:16 AM)
Kalo China & Taiwan berperang, pesawat ROCAF skrg takkan mampu melawan, hanya melengahkan masa & ditembak jatuh. Dgn bilangan pesawat & peluru berpandu PLAAF yg ada skrg, mrk boleh melancarkan 2-3 PL-12/15 pada setiap pesawat ROCAF. J-20 yg memiliki stealth akan terbang jauh di hadapan memasuki jarak peluru berpandu & melancarkan peluru berpandu ke arah pesawat ROCAF yg menumpukan pada pesawat PLAAF yg muncul pada muka radar jauh di barisan belakang. Tiada harapan utk Taiwan menang.
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Off course Taiwan won't win. They just want to give west Taiwan a bloody nose.

The conquest of Taiwan would come at the cost of ten of thousands of Chinese soldier lives as taiwanese resist their attempt to invade. It would take few months to a year to occupied Taiwan and it would come at the cost of international sanction which would allowed US moral standing to blockage the Malacca & Hormuz straits & cut off west Taiwan oil supply.
West Taiwan economy & even citizens standard of living would go down the drains.

And after invading the west Taiwan would occupied a hostile citizens who has no problem doing all insurgency asymmetrical warfare that Afgan employed. Then they have to liberate Malacca & Hormuz straits pulak.

That's why normal wumao all shout victim shouldn't scream, fight back nor called the polis. Just kangkang kaw kaw and get raped quietly. Because if the victim fight back CCP ain't going to be around anymore.


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post Oct 12 2021, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Oct 12 2021, 04:29 PM)
Taiwanese today are just like local cainis here, tame and soft. They don't have the guts and moral to fight like insurgents and militants unless the invader is barbaric country with backward mentality

Edit : some butthurt lipot my post. Talk facts also got people dengki?
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I don't know

Probably the guy think you are glorifying MCP.
Which is illegal btw under our democratic law

If you in sinki then polis would knocked your door any minute now


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...rference-online

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post Oct 12 2021, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Oct 12 2021, 04:26 PM)
Dasar pemikiran warga Taiwan, asalkan negara China boleh mengambil-alih Amerika sebagai kuasa ekonomi terbesar dunia, mrk akan menyerah & menikmati kemudahan berniaga & membuka kilang di China. Tidak perlu berperang & dah muak berlawan sesama sendiri. China dah kata mrk hanya berminat berlawan dgn Amerika, bukan sesama org Asia. Pencerobohan hanya utk tujuan latihan realistik terhadap senjata & avionics Amerika.

Stealth lawan stealth, ditambah dgn penggunaan ECM canggih, pesawat tentera Amerika & China akan bertempur pada jarak kurang 20 batu. Kelemahan F-35, rekaan pesawat khas utk pelepasan/pendaratan menegak STOVL oleh itu aerodinamik kepak & badan pesawat lebih pada kestabilan pada kelajuan rendah mengorbankan kelajuan maksima. Kalo setakat bawa 4x AIM-120C7/D dlm internal bay, sekali kehabisan peluru berpandu atau musuh memasuki jarak tempur dekat dogfight, habislah. Mahu lari pecut x boleh, kalo dogfight tanpa AIM-9X sedangkan musuh ada PL-10E, habislah.



J-20A dgn enjin WS-10C boleh lawan pakai PL-10E tapi kekurangan meriam GSH pun masalah lepas kehabisan peluru berpandu. Sekurang-kurangnya masih memiliki kelajuan jadi boleh patah balik & pecut. F-22 tidak boleh berlepas dari kapal induk jadi hanya sebilangan kecil mampu terbang ke perairan China. Jepun & Korea Selatan takkan terpedaya membenarkan negara mrk dijadikan medan perang menggugat ekonomi maka Amerika terpaksa menyerang dari laut.
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Comparing a multirole jet & a air superiority fighter then come to a conclusion that air superiority fighter good at flying 😂

It's like comparing a kapchai & a ninja 650 and conclude ninja are bad because you can't smoke, riding in jam is a pain nor got a bakul to buy groceries.

Yes J20 & F35 is a stealth jet just like a kapchai & ninja is a motor. The lack of powerful engine & limited flight control software & hardware mean J20 is more aerodynamic & stable due to canard which help in flying superiority but are bad for stealth. J20 is most likely stealth at the side but not the front or rear.Chinese stealth can only fight other jet and can't really be use for ground target or maritime strike something the F35 can do, and would be used for.

J20 habis peluru boleh patah balik but F35B abis peluru just need to find a flat deck LPD nearby. LPD ain't expensive, almost everyone getting one even Sinki are going to get 4. Even if they don't want it, US going to make them get one. Also some amphibious IFV while at it.

And NO anglo Saxon with their superiority in radar tech ain't going to fight within visual range. Seriously if you yourself can figure out a scenario that give Chinese the advantage how on earth you expect the anglo Saxon not to realized it as well and NOT do it. They are going to stay BVR. At Beyond visual range, you don't need anything more then a Gripen C to shoot at Chinese jet. Gripen as it is, is basically just a LCA with BVR capabilities to hunt Sukhoi. It's basically just a $30 mil jet with $2 mil aesa radar. It's pretty much a low entry point for other to join in . They all going for F35B to be use as Gripen at sea and create a LIFT/LCA that function like a Gripen highway landing on land.


Also air superiority platforms like tempest,NGAD ,FA-XX,. Mitsubishi FX,FCAS are online by 2030s. They purposefully create a multiple versions of the same thing to increase their chances of being undetectable. The Chinese then need to chase 6 different programs to identify & locate all 6 different jet.

If you want to fight the American in 1 on 1. Then go fight in the Pasific. The fact the Chinese are doing it in everyone else backyard tell another story. Sendiri fail in the foreign policies design don't blame others people. Asian for asian is something people had heard before. No one going to fall for it again.

As good as a wolf worrior is, they can't do anything against a wolf pack.why do you think the other asian are betting on the Anglo Saxon? Anglo Saxon promised protection, food & spoiled of war if they join them. What does the Chinese offer to other asian other then me big strong, you kangkang let me rape. You don't call police or fight so Me puas. You go dapur make me dinner. Why the f**k would people even entertain it?

Even if china want to soften up their stand, anglo Saxon won't allowed them and all it does it give an impression of weakness & more young wolf going to join the pack.they ain't going to risk and all out confrontation, they will encircle, bite it when the lone wolf are preoccupied with other wolf, rinse & repeat. They are going for death by a thousand cuts just like they did USSR.
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post Oct 16 2021, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(jwst1313 @ Oct 16 2021, 11:12 AM)
Murika will not sell to Taiwan F35 or F22 Raptor. It will be never. If willing 15 years ago already sell F15 Super Eagle and F22 Raptor. Krrp dreaming

Taiwan wamt to buy, 50 years old design redrawn become F16 viper sell to Tsai at US$120 million a piece
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I though US are afraid of industrial espionage from china if they sell something to Taiwan. Taiwan can't even get gef404 engine for their new LCA project.
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post Oct 17 2021, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Oct 17 2021, 09:55 PM)
What is MCP? I'm not interested in sinki nor bother to go to their cramped tiny island anyway.
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CCP branch in Malaysia 😂

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