Steroids can help you build a massive amount of muscle, increase your strength, and drastically speed up your recovery. But they can also come with some serious side effects, especially for many beginners that rush in without knowing what they're doing.

Steroids can help you build a massive amount of muscle, increase your strength, and drastically speed up your recovery. But they can also come with some serious side effects, especially for many beginners that rush in without knowing what they're doing.

So, anyone using steroid here for shredding?

Yup. It's true steroid boost user energy and enhance recovery, making user can to more rep, gain more thru training. It also make your didi can't stand up.

Unless you're professional, making money thru body building, better stay away for it

Plenty of examples of people hopping on gear thinking its the shortcut and ended up just as bad or getting mediocre result at the expense of health risk. as greg doucette mentioned tons of ppl on gear but doesnt even look like they are.

If someone cant even loose weight by simply watching what they eat, they dont have any business touching synthetic hormones

This post has been edited by axtray: Oct 2 2021, 08:51 PM

SARM ,human grow hormone , insulin and etc
All these hurts body and pocket . Never try .U wouldn't know

i can say 95% of malaysian who's currently on roids do not have a purposeful reason behind it.

Like what above have mentioned, almost all roids users that i know haven't even reached, or NOT EVEN close to their genetic limit/natural limit - but already is on roids...

But of course, everyone wants that "muscular" look, but ultimately it does not change their life for the better in any way

Yeah, it is true

I always thought about this.

But isn't it dumb to use it only to surpass genetic limit once you reach genetic limit?
Because then the moment you come off, those over genetic limit gains are gone. Like the gains were so short lived.
Unless you stay on forever, but then that's horrible for health and you'll likely die early cause constant use.
Every-time you're on it skews cholestrol and accelerates atherosclerosis.

It seems better to use them lightly to reach genetic limit (after you know everything about natural bodybuilding and have decent lifting experience).
Then you can just come off and maintain that body with 0 long term health consequences.
Its more rational safe sustainable use.

This post has been edited by Armesh: Oct 21 2021, 01:21 AM

That's why Malaysian boycott bodybuilding and powerlifting competition
Very Big muscular woman surely using steroids

Women cannot touch roids.
The androgenic side effects very obvious.
The saddest part is, all that muscle will instantly poof vanish once they come off, But the masculinization from androgens STAYS FOREVER!
Don't understand how someone can dispose their entire femininity FOREVER for some temporary ever fleeting "gains".

This a good video. Very low dose Oxandrolone is the only safe thing women can use. But clitoris still can be permanently enlarged with long term use.




This post has been edited by Armesh: Oct 23 2021, 03:39 PM

Wait what? Since when boycott?

Many decade ago No steroids No competition

I got friends who thinks like that, so called “use-lightly” to get build the muscle mass that would take a natural at least 3-5 years min, in a shorter span of 1-2 years.

Thinking after just do 1-2 years then goes clean, and maintain it. While it’s a known fact muscle maintenance is way way easier then trying to gain extra muscle mass - it just does not work well for them, well both of my friends.

Something to do with the body innate response to the T-levels, and they’ve all had permanant side effect/damage caused by their earlier cycle.

Google this shit, lots of resources about why this is a BAD idea unless you’re making money outta bodybuilding/your body.

In the end, once the dudes all got older, they realize to get the girls, they have to improve their financial standing instead of getting capped shoulder, or 16” bicep, or squatting 160kg.

Did they train as hard/diet as when they were on? Were they extremely well educated/know how to make progress well before ever touching roids?
Even lifetime natural bodybuilders when they have kids/stressful job they can't train/diet as well will start losing most of their muscle.

What permanent damage they had (explain in detail)?
As I know only "permanent" damage you can have from roids is atherosclerosis or HTPA downregulation, which ussualy only happens in those long time abusers.
Moreover if they "had permanant side effect/damage", it obviously shows to me they are uneducated idiots. I doubt such a person can train/diet perfectly and make good gains naturally.
Kindda impossible to have permanent damage if you have some brains, only do TestE, manage blood pressure/estrogen, and PCT off properly.
But yeah, Malaysians are brainless for most part, everything also listen to their "friends/abang" in the gym.

This post has been edited by Armesh: Jan 24 2022, 03:08 AM

Girls like big belly ,big banana
Gays looking for muscles

Diet more better. Don’t eat rice.

How would one get them 'roids ? I would suppose they got it prescribed by medical practitioners, which would lead to think their progress is supervised ?

Point is, how would one use more than is required, when their progress is monitored ?

Roids are bought from some random people who sell them. All Under Ground Labs. Can find on shopee, facebook, gym...
Its common sense.

More you use, more results & side effects. Up to maybe ~1500-2000mg/week.

Ya but you have commit more time into resistance training, since your recovery is much faster than natty.