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 Do you install Ultra Racing Safety Bar ?

Is it effective in reducing body roll ?
 
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post Sep 21 2021, 05:35 PM

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If install in Axia, really can see difference...car more stable while driving in highway...cornering more planted
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post Sep 21 2021, 05:38 PM

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Installed on Myvi, a world of difference, definitely not placebo.

But the butt hurts because it makes the car very stiff.
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post Sep 21 2021, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(brkli @ Sep 21 2021, 05:26 PM)
obviously you do not really know the whole thing on "adding a bar" to a torsion beam suspension. the so call body roll is when u do cornering, when the left and right suspension are unequal, the anti roll bar help to balance by adding a "stiffer" link between those 2.. but if u not cornering, and drive on straight malaysia uneven road, then it would be harder for the suspension to move freely due to a stiff bar connecting the left and right (same thing with you change to harder suspension or spring) and then u are the one to absorb it and hence the uncomfortable..

if you can reduce body roll during cornering and at the same time improve comfort(especially driving on uneven roads) by having stiff suspension or making the suspension "stiffer" with a torsion beam, I think u can go an patent it, surely can go rich..
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layman understanding.. sounds like it is intentional? i mean u *cant be sitting straight while car is moving like not possible.. sad.gif

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post Sep 21 2021, 05:41 PM

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Install on mpv will improve handling abit? Felt like sampan when pek cornar.
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post Sep 21 2021, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(genjo @ Sep 21 2021, 02:49 PM)
I heard many people recommend to install for your car.

So is it effective in reducing body roll and improve safety or just placebo effect ?
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Even if the car don't roll, your body senget also smile.gif
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post Sep 21 2021, 05:48 PM

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Good god. The amount of misinformation on this thread is crazy.

Anti roll bars are attached to the bottom of your control arms. When one side leans on cornering load, the opposite pushes in inside wheel down. This helps limit roll...but also makes the suspension "less independent" (since you tied your suspension together). Yes a bigger antiroll bar can impact ride comfort and could also make the car handle too sharply for inexperienced drivers on the road.


These ultra bars are chassis stiffeners. They are not anti roll bars.

Do they work? Yes. A stiffer chassis will handle better as it takes the works of the suspension from dealing with chassis flex.

However it is usually useless for road cars. Some chassis flex is needed for comfort. If you need chassis stiffening like this for your old car, likely all the chassis welds are broken. Better buy a new car instead.

Really if you really must add these things, a front 3 point tower brace and rear strut brace is all you need....any more you better weld in a roll cage.

Manufacturers are trying to make cars as light as possible and we keep on adding in more weight.
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post Sep 21 2021, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(genjo @ Sep 21 2021, 02:49 PM)
I heard many people recommend to install for your car.

So is it effective in reducing body roll and improve safety or just placebo effect ?
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Of course it does bit stiffer ride, i prefer leave car as stock as possible .
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post Sep 21 2021, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 21 2021, 05:48 PM)
Good god. The amount of misinformation on this thread is crazy.

Anti roll bars are attached to the bottom of your control arms. When one side leans on cornering load, the opposite pushes in inside wheel down. This helps limit roll...but also makes the suspension "less independent" (since you tied your suspension together). Yes a bigger antiroll bar can impact ride comfort and could also make the car handle too sharply for inexperienced drivers on the road.
These ultra bars are chassis stiffeners. They are not anti roll bars.

Do they work? Yes. A stiffer chassis will handle better as it takes the works of the suspension from dealing with chassis flex.

However it is usually useless for road cars. Some chassis flex is needed for comfort. If you need chassis stiffening like this for your old car, likely all the chassis welds are broken. Better buy a new car instead.

Really if you really must add these things, a front 3 point tower brace and rear strut brace is all you need....any more you better weld in a roll cage.

Manufacturers are trying to make cars as light as possible and we keep on adding in more weight.
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yup, add more bars and weight to car, drive and corner like maniac.. then complain why no comfort, no fuel economy..

This post has been edited by brkli: Sep 21 2021, 06:02 PM
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post Sep 21 2021, 06:11 PM

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If you pek corners here & there, everyday like takumi...then install the bars.

If not, use money to install nicer ICE.
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post Sep 21 2021, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 21 2021, 05:48 PM)
Good god. The amount of misinformation on this thread is crazy.

Anti roll bars are attached to the bottom of your control arms. When one side leans on cornering load, the opposite pushes in inside wheel down. This helps limit roll...but also makes the suspension "less independent" (since you tied your suspension together). Yes a bigger antiroll bar can impact ride comfort and could also make the car handle too sharply for inexperienced drivers on the road.
These ultra bars are chassis stiffeners. They are not anti roll bars.

Do they work? Yes. A stiffer chassis will handle better as it takes the works of the suspension from dealing with chassis flex.

However it is usually useless for road cars. Some chassis flex is needed for comfort. If you need chassis stiffening like this for your old car, likely all the chassis welds are broken. Better buy a new car instead.

Really if you really must add these things, a front 3 point tower brace and rear strut brace is all you need....any more you better weld in a roll cage.

Manufacturers are trying to make cars as light as possible and we keep on adding in more weight.
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yeah fark msian and the H T N jap shits for making cars lighter and lighter, with msians drivers esp gen Y and Z kopi lesen style, the mortality and morbidity from accident is very high in our country.

because of all these discounts of steels

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post Sep 23 2021, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Sep 21 2021, 06:28 PM)
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yeah fark msian and the H  T  N jap shits for making cars lighter and lighter, with msians drivers esp gen Y and Z kopi lesen style, the mortality and morbidity from accident is very high in our country.

because of all these discounts of steels
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Yet you complain old car no power and makan minyak.

Cars now are generally safer than tin Milos of yesteryear.safety equipment and stronger steels actually adds weight, but kept in check or balanced by new materials and construction methods.

Remember the old saga was under 800kg and the wira under 1000kg for the lightest models. They were far far lighter then. Same goes to other 80s Honda's and Toyota's which where just over 1T for equivalent models.


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