similar to you. after going for my second claim during the checkup, the problem disappeared.

Perhaps there is a threshold amount of grease displacing and re-distributing back into the right channels in the gear mesh.

This is exactly what happen to my 2nd steering gearbox / rack. Immediately after test drive and diagnosis, the technician said need to claim steering rack gearbox, then after claim process and writing and approval I got my car back in about 30-50 minutes and on the way back to office, I notice the issue reduce by 80-90%. Still there if I try hard to notice it but mostly gone.

Then I sold my car for a big loss.

Middle finger to H.

I am not fully qualified to dissect this issue. But my questions remain.
1. Why need two updates or recalls on the same issue?
- why the first time they blame improperly built steering gearbox, replaced our gearboxes with supposedly properly made ones, and now they say the worm wheel deform?
2. I can sort of understand stress and strain can deform the plastic worm wheel until the gear pitch goes out of whack and thins out the grease film.
2.1 but the solution being put more grease, can it actually last? Wouldn’t the poor meshing between the worm wheel and worm gear which are two rigid pieces be there regardless of grease fluid surrounding nearby, and still reject the coverage of grease? In other words if you have poor gear mesh, no amount of grease will solve your problem. Perhaps skeptically speaking will the grease push away anyway.

So we drill down to the 3rd why, why is the worm wheel deformed in the first place? Why isn’t it being replaced with the properly made one? Or is the design + material simply unable to last the load being applied ?

Indeed time will tell, but they have messed around with us too long and too much. Didn’t address the what if. What if a few months still problem. Why didn’t detect this during RnD and testing. Why design not fix?

It’s like we are beta testing for civic FG.

FYI US also did the first round recall / update like us…change steering gearbox…..if anything we are the ones providing them with data on how to do next lol

Mine was not replaced in the first year (2022-2023) and then in 2024 early of the year they replaced for me.

Anyway "normal" to them means they don't know what to do....yet.

"normal" later becomes other actions when they know what to do....

I really dislike the e seat. So much so I have an additional cushion permanently on. Still doesn’t solve the total problem. In fact it is one of the reason I sold my E spec (70% due to the steering rack issue which now apparently is “fixed”, 30% is the seat uncomfortable as hell).

I am a normal build person 70kg, 170cm.

By the way, the proper verdict on whether the rack issue is solved permanently or not is 1 year down the road from early this year, on the earliest. No one knows will it really work. Bear in mind that even FC and FC facelift has “fixed the steering rack since 2021” if you listen to Honda propaganda and yet here we are with FE and FE also facelift already and we are all still helping Honda to beta test a whole tub of grease.

Autobuzz or Eugene reviews cars for a living and I see that he / they have nothing bad to say about bad cars.
The real question should be who reviews their reviews for a living?

Here is a non exhaustive list of people I don't trust:
People who review cars just to make content and clicks. And then they have no other apparent job other than that, then their job is more like a freelance car salesman.
PauTan
TaiC.Yee
Autob*zz
B*bbyAng
automachy
yskhang
msiamotoring
...the list is long

Here is one that dare to tell you or at least hint you:
The Piston Show

But refer my question above. They are all fallible. Consider ALL of them actors in a TV show just saying things according to script. They do not reveal the script writers so assume the script comes from people who will benefit from them IE vendors.

For the case of Honda malaysia cars, remember that the CBU Speccing is actually different from US / International (Which you can sometimes trust their reviews because some of them plain condemn a car for 30 minutes straight). Most obvious is the sound proofing. Next is airbag design. If any International spec car is as loud as the local Civic it will be outright called out.

And the second part which is dangerous to your life is Honda Malaysia rejection of warranty and safety related defects - Steering rack. Worldwide recall upside down, Malaysia one will say no issue. Reject your claims and ask you to risk your life on the road. Good 6 months after the issue blow up they will silently say there is an "update", and then 3 months later only then the RTD will repeat the same thing for good measure.

Well if you are talking about food then at least we can argue until cows come home because taste and value and price is really subjective.

And not to forget who reviews the Michelin guide? I have tried many 1 star, bib gourmand (havent reach 2-3 stars) and found many to be wholly flat and baloney. It is more of a guide to avoid if possible for me.

But you are making the correct assumptions, that these reviewers are nothing more than paid actors reading a script. I find their entertainment value reducing a lot.

In countries that protect the consumers, misrepresantation, inaccuracy, conflict of interests are all prosecutable under various laws.
Coincidentally these are the same countries that have high per capita income, higher education per capita, higher life expectancy, higher degree of general happiness, better quality of life.

You wonder is this a correlation or another random coincident? Without being too philosophical and out of topic of cars, I will say generally consumers in Malaysia have to take care of themselves and start being wiser. H malaysia has shown a history of being positively spoken of by mass media but having issues with their products and then being very late in response.

Vote with your wallet, vote the government that cares for consumers (Where is the lemon law? PH? PN? BN? PMX? Hello?!?!?!)

Wait la, 6 months sounds like the minimum I would put towards this issue. Right now I wouldn't even mind to buy this facelift model towards near the end of life 1+ years from today.

if you really cannot wait then just buy something else.

up to a certain point even if the whole damn gearbox is filled with grease, you will still have sticky feel if the grinding surfaces between the worm gear and the input gear is stressed until deform or the surface is under very high friction stress and the whole grease film is squeezed away.

But by right having plenty of grease should reduce the speed of achieving stickiness.

By right there is literally no where else in that gearbox to add grease although this raise the question maybe they still manufacturing and using old gearbox which is not 100% filled to the brim.

its hard for us to know for sure. after all what you hear and what you describe with words can be very different anyway.

what i can remember is I hear my steering rack sound long (2-3 months) before I feel the sticky. Some are sensitive to touch, some are sensitive to sound, some both, some neither.

I sold my E for 88k only last year. I'm calling sunset on Japanese cars.

the pesky power steering. and also because i wanted a higher seat car.

When ppl fall in love with the car. We tend to ignore the bad things. My bro in law accord also kena and I ignore. A few of my friends city also kena steering rack, I also ignore. Now the affair ended . Tbh I don’t mind the clicky sound. But the sticking steering is dangerous, as it does not return to center when released. Will make you sh!tbrix for 0.2s during corners.

I wonder how to support the steering independently for this model without factory service?
I have 2 of these examples in my condo and I always curious to ask. But shy l of course
I always loved the hatch form factor

I am a very DIY person,

https://www.civic11forum.com/threads/solved...ew=1#post-64984