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pillage2001
post Dec 26 2023, 07:15 PM

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Just got my civic. Everything good so far without any nosie in the cabin. Some thoughts:
1) Will need to release some air as I think they overinflated it.
2) Side and rear camera really is shit...lol but I can live with it.
3) Definitely need lumbar support else my 40 year old spine is gonna break real soon.
4) Speakers are mediocre at best. My 20 year old accord had better speakers.
5) Enabled wireless android auto but how to pair? I followed some instruction to remove any pairings from the car and phone. Turned on blue tooth on my pixel 6. Press connect on the HU. Paired with my phone, HU and phone shows same code and I pressed pair but did not get any functionality there. Spotify works with Bluetooth audio.
6) SA tried to give me rm50 worth of petrol but I insisted on 100. What did you guys get?


P/s; How does one enable Honda connect again? SA told me to screen shot my profile for him but how do I get that?

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post Dec 26 2023, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 26 2023, 08:36 PM)
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Nopes, I got through my local SA here for 7k discount. I reckon there might be more discount now but I can't win it all I guess.


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post Dec 29 2023, 12:54 AM

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Got the car tinted at Irispro and seems pretty good so far. Took a drive from PG to KL and put a total for 400km on the engine now. Did you guys do any special break in or juts drive it like normal? I totally forgotten about the break in period but did not go too crazy on the highway, ranging from low speeds to 160km/h for a short while just to overtake.

The seat is actually not too bad, did a 4 hour drive and managed to survive without much backache. Wind sound was acceptable even at 140km/h. Cabin noise was low but I am coming from a 19 year old car so opinion might be biased. AA is awesome.



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post Dec 29 2023, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Madgeiser @ Dec 29 2023, 02:21 PM)
Yes, this is my thought also. All GDI engine has carbon build up issue, that is the inherent design drawback of the GDI engine.
You may want to read up on port injection and GDI and  the new thing in the block they call it hybrid, where they combine port injection with GDI injection.

Now anyone have any thought about pumping RON97 or RON00 say every month once to clean the injector head? Does it works? For eHev, i think it is not required. Doesn't help much imho, since we use the engine mainly for batt charging and high speed cruising. For regular turbo maybe?
To be honest, the engine is already revved to the max when it is assembled in the factory. So..... to me, i don't follow.
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Yeah, I was wondering did anybody do any special breaking in cause I just couldn't resist the drive on the highway. It was so seamless when overtaking and also hitting 160km/h without me knowing easily. Did not go above 3.5k rpm and no WOT so I guess I should be okie.
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post Dec 30 2023, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Dec 30 2023, 03:41 PM)
My car send to SC to check the constant noise coming from going thru road bump. SC found the noise caused by lower arm and maybe the link bar thingy clicking, then they fixed it but during fixing it they scratch the fender and the door edge. End up sending it into workshop for repair.. there goes no car to use for countdown New Year 2024. When send to workshop, workshop ppl found out previous workshop did shitty job on repair at fender, so they did additional repair but not sure is covered under SC or not.I know normally workshop count paint job and repair by panel.
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Sad to hear that the SC scratched the car but good that they took responsibility for it.


Anybody changed their regular speakers to Bose? Wonder if it's worth the upgrade and if the current HU able to drive those speakers reliably.

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post Jan 2 2024, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(lee_lnh @ Jan 2 2024, 08:43 PM)
even if RS change to honda bose speaker.. the sound quality improvement of 8+1 speaker  seems not significant enough to justify the 2k+ spent,
reason is HU still limited to non-BOSE DSP setting, centre speaker which tapped from left or right. and absence of active subwoofer
you might get a slightly larger soundstage, because the bottom speakers is larger.. but u still cant super crank up the bass similar to default speaker..  the door panel boom and rattle is not fun either.

underseat abit lower height... seems like hard to fit a subwoofer unless those mini type.. then some will not satisfy because not enuff punch..
boot space maybe can put sub.
if want to mod with better sound quality. have to go aftermarket brand with DSP.. like alpine, jbl, kenwood, pioneer, polk etc

also not sure how far changing to aftermarket setup/bose setup will disturb ehev models
as it has active noise control which phase cancels out environment and road noises.. to best effort.
and already factory calibrated with default speaker installation
when introduce diff setup.. all new speakers and sub have different freq response. so the ANC might not be effective or can even introduce more noise to the cabin due to the new speaker's higher gain at certain freq and diff cutoff.
but i guess if audio junkie just crank up volume and bass till drown the noise.. if ferrying family or old folks kenot le..

btw when crv ehev launch can go test drive the 12 bose system and experience it compare with civic.
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I guess as much. Had concerns with the HU driving it effectively but seems like it's going to be a problem. Anyhow, the speaker seems to be much better after playing a variety of music across certain ranges. The bass started to open up and highs crispier. Not sure if it's just me but I guess after playing it for 10 hours or so, it seems much acceptable.
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post Jan 2 2024, 10:31 PM

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Since the SA messed up my paint by using polish compound to remove some marks from the factory, decided to do a quick detail on my basement with meguairs nxt, thank God the swirls were gone....




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post Jan 2 2024, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(lee_lnh @ Jan 2 2024, 10:42 PM)
yea,, if u have extra $$ to splurge can go ahead... since its plug n play.. the A-pillar with bose logo is a nice addition.
i just put treble to 7/8 and mid 4/5 to make vocal/acoustics sound crisper.
but bass put 2/3. it forever lacks punch.. any more than that sound like like crap across my jumbled spotify playlist.

can be improved by putting a subwoofer... but that 1 SC spot sure electronics warranty all void.
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Don't mind spending the 2k if the significance is there but so far after reading feedbacks on the FB group, doesn't seem like it's a worthwhile investment. Would stick to what we have for now unless this current one koyak. lol

Anybody upgraded to K&N filters?

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post Jan 6 2024, 03:02 PM

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Haih, all these steering rack issues, I've just hit 1k KM in a week. lol. hopefully won't come that soon.
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post Jan 9 2024, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 8 2024, 07:44 PM)
Wanna ask, does SC let ppl go into their workshop area during car service? Cos my engine undershield damaged, worry got small animals can go up if no change and water bla bla can splash into engine bay so im thinking wanna change or not. Whole set around 750 not include labour. Gonna see how extensive is the damage also. Sc only tell me got missing clip.
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They do if you ask them to let you see the under carriage. They will escort you in. I've been in there countless times. lol
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post Jan 10 2024, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 9 2024, 08:10 PM)
ok then thanks for the info.  biggrin.gif found taobao can ship the same thing for rm550+ but sea shipping may take 1month+. if change the aluminum sheet only rm250+ lol.
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I don't think it's wise to put aluminum there as a replacement. If it breaks and hits the road, it might cut or slice some of your cable or pipes. Plastic can shatter and cause minimum damage but Alu, might be different.

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post Jan 10 2024, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 10 2024, 03:58 AM)
bro the underbody engine cover is factory made of aluminum if u have seen it before.  I am merely getting a 1 to 1 swap lol. Plastic are those aftermarket brand orsen, durable and flexible but not sure good or not. Aluminum is very malleable, it will crumble instead of breaking.
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really? I was driving a 19 year Accord and I can swear that it was plastic before. lol. Maybe things are diff now.
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post Jan 16 2024, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 15 2024, 04:00 PM)
There is not much I can do at this moment except leave it be. And in my case after the underground service it wasn't that bad as previous. I just share my experience to compare notes I suppose.

FC model steering rack change under the tree is around RM1-2k for recond units. Some claim to successfully resolve the issue? Its a shame if this issue has lived for such a long time, but my friend's City GM6 and bro in law's G10 Accord ALL had steering rack issues freezing and jamming, so maybe Honda put too many engineers to the engine department?
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The racks are sourced from a vendor and not manufactured by Honda I believe.

I have the same concern as you, what do I do when my 5 year warranty is up? I read that the FC folks have extended 3 years but only one time change for the rack. So far touch wood, 2k km and still okie. Mum's 5 year old HRV is okie, dad's 9th gen Accord with EPS is okie.



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post Jan 16 2024, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 16 2024, 10:05 AM)
Good news is SA told me Honda has extended the warranty on Steering rack to 7 years also for FE. Bad news is you gotta keep paying them another 2 years of in house service. Lol.

Yes, I'm well aware it is not manufactured by Honda. But it will be considered as OEM. So bears all Honda design and marks, if it was a pure vendor side manufacturing issue then it is not difficult to solve, it is a design issue then it is more difficult to solve.

But remember the North American version also affected with sticky steering so it leads me to speculate this is not just a manufacturing error. Unless you say the same part from same vendor from same site is being used by 2 plants - NA and Malaysia....which leads us to be even more confused as to why Malaysia version is recall-free.
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My understanding that the racks are all from the same manufacturer. Whether same plant or not, not really sure. It seems like a design issue that led to a DPM issue which they are not acknowledging though. Still don't get how they can let his through.

Yeah, I was following the FE FB group and saw that Honda US has issue a recall but not sure if it makes any difference if they are replacing it with the same POS. lol.
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post Jan 16 2024, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 16 2024, 08:26 AM)
Maybe send to workshop that can refurbish the rack to be as new, by changing all the worn out/ damage parts. I read somewhere in FB, got workshop already able to provide that service to most car brand. Instead of spending huge fees for brand new rack
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I did check in the FE FB group, they mentioned KC Auto. The same people who are selling CVT cooler as well. Alot of good feedback from that workshop for all general repairs as well.
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post Jan 16 2024, 10:35 AM

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Anybody updated their Android on the car infotainment? Is there a need to update?
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post Jan 16 2024, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Jan 16 2024, 10:39 AM)
No one done it b4, actually my FC didnt do it,now maybe trying out for my G10 at SC
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Aight, cause I was messing around with the settings and I saw that it can connect to a wifi and also the update button is not greyed out, so I assume that it can be updated. Not too sure if it needs Honda specific update or general Android update will do.
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post Jan 16 2024, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Jan 16 2024, 10:52 AM)
Oh so urs have the update button,my G10 doesn hv the update button
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Yup it does. Let me go double check again to make sure that I did not confuse the developer mode with the end user mode. lol

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post Jan 16 2024, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 16 2024, 03:26 PM)
I can’t help but feel that way.
What is DPM issue? If they start a recall then at least they have to acknowledge it openly and any further or subsequent issues can be confidently covered. Even beyond warranty.

Tbh Im not surprised it comes from 1 single vendor. I don’t really care if it comes from single site or multiple. But if you go to Honda distributor and buy the part it carries Honda label and part number and warranty and usability falls on them. You also don’t say I want the US manufactured or India or XYZ part. You only get to ask for the part number.
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Defect per million. Usually for mass produced products, there's a threshold on the DPM limit before they start issuing recall or halt production altogether. In this case, it's ridiculous.

At the end of the day, we just want working steering racks. How hard is it Honda? lol
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post Jan 16 2024, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 16 2024, 05:21 PM)
Ooh bro, the dreaded S word...you caved in. TBH Its now 2 years with the Civic, and I can say quite confidently that if my driving habits / needs do not change (ie I don't suddenly die die must drive a Golf GTI, dont need to drive my kids to school, have access to open roads) my next car will be a SUV. But if there comes a space to park another car, and I do suddenly get a nice lottery, and lastly I found a nice road....GTI or AMG here I come.

But, alas daily troubles like father's knees, wife's back, etc etc etc all come to play and a low car like Civic is just making headache more than pleasure.
Oh PPM, I know what it means, I use statistics at work all the time to manipulate data to my desired outcomes lol. I work in the company that invented PPM/DPM/6 sigma.

bro, here we talking here a few dozen peoples, more than half already got this defect. The DPM rate must be through the roof.
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Yeah, that's why i mentioned it's ridiculous d the steering rack issues. And not sure why Honda still think they can get a way with it. It's sad that they still take so long to ack this.

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