just found there are discussion about "no start malfunction" and happened alot to the previous gen W221 very often but not not so often W222.

If W222 share the same problem, pretty much the car will be very worthless

likely ppl who bought it as 2nd hand car may not necessary willing to spend 70-80k battery that wont even last for 10 years

Lets be real.
This S400H is not for the typical average Myvi owner. Or someone thinking to buy one cheap and swap in whatever monstrous turbo beast.

Its either owned by CEO , Directors or some top gun, who couldn't be bothered about battery failure.
That's taken care by Merc service centre. Which is handled by whoever monitors their fleet of car maintenance.

They have a ton of thoughts about making company profit and reducing losses. Not thinking about how to deactivate the battery.

get a lexus. scotty kilmer approves this

total waste of time when S class non hybrid are so many to pick from

thats why beginning already i said i poor fag, only want to know the possibility ma~ even swap the turbo i also mentioned the MB S450 turbo, not any performance turbo pun

Lexus is definitely the best choice tooo... well if ntg really goes wrong, getting a RX for would be one of the alternate choice

personally loves the W222 sleek look than the W221 bulky look only ask the question


the older gen surely not a major issue since the car been running around longer & most of the things can be fixed n parts still can be found. unlike hybrid battery, can only come from MB, if got 3rd party also takut

Its a good car just the scary part is the battery .

What you're attempting to do is extremely complex and will be extremely expensive.

Might be better off buying a S450 rather than a S400h and then trying to convert it when it spoils.

However if you happen to already own a S400h, then if it's just the batteries you could probably replace it by modules as you could with a Prius or a CT200H.

Don't waste your money. A mercedes is the last thing you want to mod. Not enough community here to warrant such experiment. Get something Japanese and you will get lots of information and parts for modding.

Plus, modding a hybrid is a disaster unless you have lots of cash or lots of sifus around.

This post has been edited by abubin: Sep 7 2021, 03:23 PM

If hybrid battery and hybrid system so easy to spoil and so hard and expensive to repair, then how is the "hybrid is greener and better for environment"?

Not even used for few years then throw away. Is this even justify the fossil fuel savings that hybrid system uses vs normal ICE system.

like this a toyota camry 2,5NA is even more environmental friendly compared to hybrids, because NA cars is more durable, can be driven for many years.

Who says about throwing away hybrid cars? TS is asking about adding turbo into the hybrid engine.

As for the hybrid batteries there are usually 8 years warranty for them. However, after that the battery will cost a lot to replace. Depending on car manufacturer, some are reasonable and some are not. Hybrids are phasing out soon. Most people would go for full EV or stick with ICE. BTW, you don't see many used continental hybrid that is more than 8 years old on they road, don't you?

Maybe you are right..it's not environmental friendly to dispose hybrid after 8 years. Many ICE cars are also disposed around 10 years also. So it's not really that far fetch. Same thing with current BEV, we don't know what the future will be like after 10 years. It's all manufacturers way of pushing stuffs to the consumers.

not anytime soon owning such big luxury car yet if i only got 1 chance & i will probably really wait for the non hybrid on sale then only buy. (since dont have the idea how much gonna cost to convert)

Is just that i feel with so many hybrids on the road means the car could be cheaper to get it to convert into non hybrid... where as the non hybrid may float at a high price since the number are non as great as hybrid

I thought it may be a good idea (just idea) for ppl who dont have that deep budget to buy new but happily to own a used without the hybrid.

I used to see a lot Audi A6 Hybrid alot around, followed by CRZ, Prius C & CT200 but these days hardly see it on the road. but now hardly see them on the road

my friend's CT200 he almost give up selling the car cz need to replace the hybrid, but still owe bank money so no choice continue to drive until save enuf money to change. he lucky manage to find 3rd party to change it. but many times they need constant change the cell that so call save the envirotment

just my personal opinion, i still prefer ICE car than hybrid n PHEV at least it got 1 less problem need to worry (battery pack & charging)

The orang yang Rich had enuf the hybrid then throw, then poor fag like us to catch

when the manufacturer really abandoned the hybrid system, ppl who hold their cars pretty much a fucuk... even u r rich u cannot find the parts to maintain your car

I just hope malaysia dont force to use PHEV anytime soon, i still want to enjoy the combustion engine sound

PHEV is between EV and ICE. It is an in between transition tech that is not considered to be the ultimate goal. All countries that have anti ICE policy will not even bother with PHEV. The future is pretty much BEV. Anyone buying new hybrid now is just being duped into wasting their money on an old tech that is no longer considered environmental friendly. If you pickup a used PHEV, don't think it will last you through the EV policy cause it won't. If you are getting new PHEV, don't waste your money. But if you are getting an old PHEV to play with then get it as it is cheap. Apart from Prius and Insight, I don't think there are any Hybrid that is affordable to play with. And those are not even PHEV.