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 How to identify Fake/Counterfeit KF94 mask?

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mochicake
post Sep 29 2021, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 29 2021, 01:19 AM)
Wow, looks like to you're still buying lots of mask. What brand are you buying now? My cousin also like you, trying out different brands KF94. He's lucky though because his sister was the one buying and he get free samples to try.

Bought about 10 boxes of Neutrovis for my wife. Was able to get some for RM16, some for RM20 using grab to pay on Watson website. I think this covid19 will bankrupt many people if all wanna buy good mask.

Wasted some money on useless face shield. Wife's sister was working in Sharp and got their face shield for staff's price. At first I didn't know what's so great about it since I tried it on the day to PPV. After I tried all those cheapo ones, only realised how good the Sharp one was with reflections and fog especially for us who had to wear glasses.
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I stopped buying mask for few weeks now after restock GM, Bluna. Besides those 4 neo-medical yesterday recommended.

Wah that face shield RM199. I got the 3m ratchet headgear but never wear out yet, too awkward haha Then got the over glasses 3m glasses, but no vent like full cover but eh awkward also. The cheapo face shields always got conned by picture or dimensions, say this big, but when show up tiny af. I go out wear kf94/n95 and glasses for now.

QUOTE(thomas1983 @ Sep 29 2021, 10:01 AM)
I am using vircast medic kf94 now but wearing it will hurt my ears ;(

I saw the packaging of Good manners KF94 is yellow dust mask, isit safe to wear to protect from covid ?

Sorry if my question is noob haha coz previously saw some article saying yellow dust kf94 mask is not good in against covid
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Yellow dust is just a term they use in Korea so they direct translate to english?
https://10mag.com/yellow-dust-mask-korea/

If it filters 94% particles it is better than a 3-ply surgical mask. Tbh with the folds of the kf94 how it conforms to the face think it's a safer bet than surgical masks because of the fit. If you find a brand/size that fits you can only wear it a certain way, no gaps while with surgical mask might not do so every time.

QUOTE(KopiChia @ Sep 29 2021, 10:50 AM)
I see their new reviews kena hantam 3 x 1/2 stars 😅. Overall the mask are ok I would definitely prefer individual packs over 5in1 but I won't be giving 1 start maybe 3/4 stars.
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Saw that too, it is deserved though. Almost 3 weeks wait then seems everyone receive it same day lol My one that i purchased later than yours seem follow that same ETA as it is still packed and waiting to ship.

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post Sep 30 2021, 06:56 PM

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I receive the neo-medical masks already. The packaging is teal (large) and pink (medium). Will try out later this week.
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post Oct 2 2021, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Oct 1 2021, 11:33 AM)
Teal? You buy individual or box?
This is what my neo medical L looks like the left is individual and background is the box.

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Yeah i bought individual. Haven't opened to use yet. Teal is large, pink is medium.

Maybe manufacturer they change packaging? Same seller as your recommend myk-ma** on lazada.

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post Oct 2 2021, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Oct 1 2021, 07:42 PM)
Heads up fellas KopiChiaxenithmochicake
Same seller today price - 63.70
Just bought another 100 🤣
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Lucky you all, good price. But i skipping this turn and maybe this seller won't buy from. My old order few weeks only finally start shipping out of their hands. So slow. Wonder why they sell so cheap.

Funny thing the beautyboxkr order they sent all individual packs instead of 5-packs even though i paid about RM80 less compared to their individual pack listing. Maybe to these sellers it don't matter cause their margins are good enough even individual pack or 5-pack.
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post Oct 5 2021, 05:23 PM

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Ya since Good Manner is decent enough generally i don't bother trying more new ones.

The one i ordered previous batch (18 sep order) from Laz/11streetkorea arrived today. White color, 5 pack ziplocks. Did you all count yours? Think i got 2-4 extra packs as free gift or apology for delay. It came in a Good Manner/Handa company box.

This thread dangerous as couldn't resist the RM63 deal also haha. Enough mask last a year for 2 people. Not that it's going to waste. Will donate some too. More people wear better mask, better for everyone.
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post Oct 8 2021, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(thomas1983 @ Oct 5 2021, 07:28 PM)
U guys will use KF94 let’s say good manner one for how many hours then will change to another ?
As I am using empro and neutrovis and normally I change a new one after 4-5hours
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One a day but i am not wearing in high risk or medical setting. Does not get sweaty or wet. Why you change every 4-5hrs?
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post Oct 9 2021, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Oct 5 2021, 06:54 PM)
No i got 20 packs 20x5 = 100. When your husband use neo-medical let me know how it is. I think it's L is bigger than Good Manner well they are almost same.... Anyway I am ok with using good manner.
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Husband with neo-medical is white color so for now he ok with GM black don't wanna bug him try other mask. When GM finish and move on to the white 5-packs will get him try.

Depending on household those 100 masks we buy can only last a month or two so it's smart to purchase ahead especially with these Korean sellers that take awhile to ship.
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post Oct 14 2021, 10:15 PM

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ya the 11street RM63 first batch is shipped out, otw now .. should arrive few days.

the 5-pack masks are ok but the fabric tend to shred faster than the individual black masks. it doesn't tear but u can see lil threads going up like near the nose bridge.

About neo-medical i wore the pink/medium and it's kinda nice that it's all stitched, the sides near cheeks are tucked in and the nose part is more triangular. Fit well without adjustment. But the cheek undereye area was not very comfortable because i feel like it goes a bit high into the sensitive skin undereyes. Feel a bit scratchy in that area. I do tend to have sensitive skin tho.
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post Oct 15 2021, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Oct 14 2021, 10:58 PM)
I occasionally have my seborrheic dermatitis acting up so far I had no issues with L neo medical but I have issues with I don't know what brand maybe repack? I didn't check its frm either purchased at Watson or 7/11 kf94 mask. I feel it scratch my cheek? I stop using it  already.
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I experience the worst scratchiness with Airshell kf94, plus the elastic break easy. Gotta skip respack then based on yr experience. Spoiled by Bluna now haha so soft n smooth interior.
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post Oct 15 2021, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(blueeiee @ Oct 15 2021, 10:06 AM)
can i know where you bought the bluna mask from? can share the link pls thankss
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Shopee or Lazada with seller from Korea if you search for it. Tbh i am fine with it as long as ship from Korea but i can't guarantee authenticity to recommend specific sellers. Heard more and more there are kf94 counterfeits. Price gone up also so now RM130-140 for 30 pcs. No choice as it's the best mask for me. Have seen Malaysia sellers but they sell more exp than Korean ones (RM70-80 for 10 pcs or something ridiculous like that) plus dunno if can trust.
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post Oct 15 2021, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(blueeiee @ Oct 15 2021, 05:39 PM)
ahh because i tried search from these 2 platform, if filter by overseas seller cant seems to find this brand thats why check w you  laugh.gif  but yeah if local i found their listing, selling at 70ish fr 10 pcs.
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White RM133 - https://shopee.com.my/BLUNA-Face-Fit-KF94-P...d8-82c9b7afa73d

Black RM187 - https://shopee.com.my/BLUNA-Face-Fit-Mask-K...98-555be0014fce

Beauty box korea so legit seller, they have a store that sells to US and their masks are legit. Dunno why they hike up the price for black by so much. I got to settle for white color from now on.
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post Oct 18 2021, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(X1X1 @ Oct 17 2021, 08:01 PM)
why not get 3m kn95 ? for me is way beyond any kf94 mask ...
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Not as comfortable. Made in China. Can be allergic to material inside (like me), had box of 50pcs 3M n95 major allergy had give away (purchased from 3M official).
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post Oct 18 2021, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(theballer @ Oct 17 2021, 08:51 PM)
Airshell on shopee is it trustworthy? Shipping from Korea
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Is legit but mask quality very rough against face esp cheeks and straps break easy. Cheap tho so might be worth it.
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post Oct 18 2021, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Oct 18 2021, 09:53 AM)
Good Manner arriving via GDEX today
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Mine arrived, guess what … it is individually packed in two boxes of 50s. Order was the RM63 deal you guys told us about.
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post Oct 18 2021, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(elmolee @ Oct 18 2021, 11:09 AM)
oh really? I bought from the same seller too. great!
rm 63 for 100 pcs
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Ya order October 2, received October 18 so not bad. Definitely worth the price. Even have to wait, and think the wait not as long as last time. Maybe the mask individual or multi-pack considered same price in Korea? We just want individual for convenience. I mostly want the box so can easily stack haha.
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post Oct 18 2021, 11:29 AM

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RM89 for 30pcs Bluna white if anyone want to try. Korean seller and they previously sell various kf94 masks with lots of reviews, store also good rating and ship on time. I’m tempted too but mask stocks kinda banyak thanks to 11street deals this thread convince me buy haha

https://shopee.com.my/product/326704712/127...84-1634527634.9
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post Oct 18 2021, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Oct 18 2021, 08:31 PM)
Good Manner - 16 cents each only wor, who dare to buy?  blush.gif

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/good-man...&freeshipping=1
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If too cheap don't bother. Not worth it just save few ringgit. That store so scummy, seem they send same mask but have dozens of listings for all the kf94 korean brand masks. Hope lazada take down soon.
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post Oct 21 2021, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(cfc @ Oct 20 2021, 11:11 PM)
hi .. good manner supporter
i saw at least 3 variant of the good manner white masks in shopee ..
so far the far right seems most legit as it is same with official site photo
the other 2 .. hmm, any comment ?
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All wrong. The left might be the closest. Early on they had the "FDA" on most kf94 packaging but afterwards they had redo packaging and remove "FDA" as it is not allowed. So if it is old batch with FDA it might be legit. It should look like below for new packaging (pic from GM official website). All the GM i purchased since few months ago have the logos like these, both individual and 5-pack ziplocks - purchased from various Korean sellers.

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Edit - the one on right, the reviews for the 11street lazada first batch (11 sep 21) is the same packaging ... so maybe is the old packaging

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post Oct 24 2021, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Oct 24 2021, 01:45 AM)
The white one that I got a month or so ago still had the FDA logo , I noticed Black ones were the ones that don't have FDA logo written which is weird. If you guys need reference , here's their official site http://eng.han-da.co.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=0202
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This their site, can buy direct but pay 1/3 extra shipping to MY. That’s where i got the non-fda packaging pic which matches all my purchases (4 different korean sellers for GM)

https://www.goodmannermask.com/

The FDA vs no FDA thing is cause now people say to check authenticity can’t have FDA on it as FDA never allow for non-food/consumable products. But early on most kf94 slap that on so their old packaging all like that - good manner, wiicare, bluna etc. So both are fine as long as buy from reputable seller or direct from Korea.
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post Oct 28 2021, 12:48 PM

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Read the wiiki about FFP standards and tests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFP_standards

FFP1 is cause it needs to pass a specific paraffin oil aerosol test which other countries/regions don’t bother when testing their kn95 or n95. It also does not apply to the purposes we are using the mask for …
“However EN 149 test requirements differ somewhat from the U.S./Chinese/Japanese standards: EN 149 requires an additional paraffin oil (paraffinum perliquidum) aerosol test and it tests at a range of different flow rates and defines several associated and permissible pressure drop levels.”

Down below under similar standards it states KF94 is considered as FFP2
“ South Korea (KMOEL - 2017–64): considered identical to pre-2009 version. FFP1 is called "2nd grade" or KF80, FFP2 "1st grade" or KF94, and FFP3 "special grade" or KF99.”

Think Korea is very strict about what they can put on their packaging claims. Like the FDA is removed after first batches so maybe they can’t put FFP or FDA claims on their packaging anymore.

If you wear a kn95/n95 with earloop, it is the same or worse as kf94. Must go with the double headbands to achieve the testing seal and results. For comfort, breathability and ease i still choose kf94 and earloop 3m (9513 is readily available now) as it is better than someone wearing surgical or cloth mask/buff. Like in US ppl still wear cloth mask wtf or delivery/courier riders here all just use buff now when they show up.

This post has been edited by mochicake: Oct 28 2021, 01:12 PM

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