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National Team the new FAM, reshuffled...but issit still a bad hand?

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post Sep 13 2007, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(johnjenin @ Sep 13 2007, 04:01 PM)
If you think no future in our local football. you are just naive.

If you think you just can play until 35, its show how bad is your thinking.

In football there is always career path.

Just take Shebby as example. After he retire where is he right now? football commentator.
Look at Dollah Salleh and Zainal Abidin Hassan, they became football coach. You can decide what is your future.
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When did i say there was no future? Don't just assume cause u would just make yourself look stupid.
Football is a career path but footballers make most of their income when they are playing. Only a few are successful after their playing careers. You mention Shebby. And i ask u what about those that don't have the talent for showbiz or any business sense? What do they do? Go work for McDonalds?

But not once did I mention that it's all doom and gloom. I for one believe that football is still a viable career path and that our youth sides have show more promise than the senior squad. But if u really want football to progress, u have to make it a really attractive proposition for kids (and their parents) to consider it as a serious career path. The bigger the pool is the more talent it will produce. Simple as that.
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post Sep 13 2007, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(verx @ Sep 13 2007, 08:44 PM)
When did i say there was no future? Don't just assume cause u would just make yourself look stupid.
Football is a career path but footballers make most of their income when they are playing. Only a few are successful after their playing careers. You mention Shebby. And i ask u what about those that don't have the talent for showbiz or any business sense? What do they do? Go work for McDonalds?
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Sorry. I shouldn't quote your post. Im replying to those who said that there is no future if you choose to become footballer. My apologies.

As what i said. once you become footballer, you can choose your career path or invest accordingly using your money. One good example is Amirul Nizam Mahathir. X-Kedah player and now playing with Perlis. He open a shoes shop. May be he can used his network to sponsor a player and get player to buy shoes from his shop.

Let say you dont have talent in showbiz or bussiness. you can always get a coach badge. With the reputation as football player, there is no question why people will not hire you. Coach is not just to become one for your state or club. We still need them at IPTA, IPTS and School. A lot to offer by them.

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But not once did I mention that it's all doom and gloom. I for one believe that football is still a viable career path and that our youth sides have show more promise than the senior squad. But if u really want football to progress, u have to make it a really attractive proposition for kids (and their parents) to consider it as a serious career path. The bigger the pool is the more talent it will produce. Simple as that.
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This is known problem. We need to start from basic. and school is the first target.

Last 10-15 years, we actually have this. At that time in Kedah, we have our own football state academy and they adopt a school to put their trainee in. Its a good step where easy for academy to manage their trainee by sending them to school and pick them up to back to their academy. If they adopt more school involving chinese and tamil gov school it will create more talent. But FAM stop this and this is their biggest mistake.
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post Sep 13 2007, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(bhypp @ Sep 10 2007, 02:38 PM)
okay....fellas....whu thinks that this will help?? okay we all agree no more roalyties.....the president refusing to budge, and the UMNO politician is also in....and uncontested?!?!!

it was quoted that sultan ahmad said that we live by democracy n thus voting is the way to go...but why is the seat of which khairy jamaluddin is in now is not being contested....shud he even be there in the 1st place...im pretty sure he got no footballing experience let alone lead the national governing body of the sport???  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

and 5 others competed for the vice president n look how democracy ousted the royalty.... so issit now UMNO > kerabat ????

and wat u guys think the future got in place for the national team n the grassroot developments.....

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we are gonna hit 200 on the ranking before the end of the year
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so yeah, its gonna help in getting malaysia to 200
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post Sep 13 2007, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(johnjenin @ Sep 13 2007, 09:42 PM)
Sorry. I shouldn't quote your post. Im replying to those who said that there is no future if you choose to become footballer. My apologies.

As what i said. once you become footballer, you can choose your career path or invest accordingly using your money. One good example is Amirul Nizam Mahathir. X-Kedah player and now playing with Perlis. He open a shoes shop. May be he can used his network to sponsor a player and get player to buy shoes from his shop.

Let say you dont have talent in showbiz or bussiness. you can always get a coach badge. With the reputation as football player, there is no question why people will not hire you. Coach is not just to become one for your state or club. We still need them at IPTA, IPTS and School. A lot to offer by them.
Of course there are many options for footballers after their playing careers. That is not an issue. What I'm trying to say is that a footballer makes most of his income during his playing career. Or he should. If he isn't then u have to question whether they are being paid enough. If working as a coach or commentator can sustain a similar lifestyle why bother becoming a professional player? You have more long term stability being a coach/commentator and u can still play football with friends. I hope u understand where i'm going with this.

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This is known problem. We need to start from basic. and school is the first target.

Last 10-15 years, we actually have this. At that time in Kedah, we have our own football state academy and they adopt a school to put their trainee in. Its a good step where easy for academy to manage their trainee by sending them to school and pick them up to back to their academy. If they adopt more school involving chinese and tamil gov school it will create more talent. But FAM stop this and this is their biggest mistake.
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I have always opined that the problem with our football is because we are not doing enough at grassroots level. Even though some have suggested that racial politics have had a huge effect on the decline of our football, I find that very hard to believe...not because that it doesn't exist...I know full well seeing that I'm Chinese myself but I just don't see the inclusion of more Chinese or Indian players boosting our performances at national level. Simply because we are the minority in this country statistically speaking. But i generally agree that the FAM has been a farce for the past decade or more.
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QUOTE(kcng @ Sep 13 2007, 11:10 PM)
we are gonna hit 200 on the ranking before the end of the year
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so yeah, its gonna help in getting malaysia to 200
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on what circumstances you said that? care to elaborate?
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QUOTE(kcng @ Sep 13 2007, 11:10 PM)
we are gonna hit 200 on the ranking before the end of the year
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so yeah, its gonna help in getting malaysia to 200
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this man here should be the fam boss...correct or not apek? he'll emphasize on goalkeeping development only, and all the players must drive satria neo whistling.gif
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post Sep 15 2007, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(seruzz2003 @ Sep 14 2007, 01:22 PM)
this man here should be the fam boss...correct or not apek? he'll emphasize on goalkeeping development only, and all the players must drive satria neo whistling.gif
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at least nowdays they cared more to choose the best of the best in the country. not best of THIER state only
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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ Sep 15 2007, 10:09 PM)
at least nowdays they cared more to choose the best of the best in the country. not best of THIER state only
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choose like myteam program is more good
last time my team nearly win against the malaysia team still got good footballer in our country they just no show off
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Sep 15 2007, 10:49 PM)
choose like myteam program is more good
last time my team nearly win against the malaysia team still got good footballer in our country they just no show off
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yea i agree. national players in Malaysia are way too relaxed. with the MyTeam program it'll give those lazy a*ses to start training hard and not to be beaten by a team thats formed for few months.
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QUOTE(jitkin @ Sep 15 2007, 11:25 PM)
yea i agree. national players in Malaysia are way too relaxed. with the MyTeam program it'll give those lazy a*ses to start training hard and not to be beaten by a team thats formed for few months.
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agree. i actually wanted MyTeam to win because it would humiliate our National team even more. Malaysian Team = Jaguh Kampung biggrin.gif

but the current under 23 and 20 r doing good. fighting spirit. hope they dun burn out too soon..

KJ in?? hmm.gif give him time and lets see. if he succeeds turning malaysian team around then good for him.

if not, well... then we really know he only talk c@ck. laugh.gif

but MyTeam was his idea kan?
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QUOTE(kcng @ Sep 13 2007, 11:10 PM)
we are gonna hit 200 on the ranking before the end of the year
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so yeah, its gonna help in getting malaysia to 200
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i like 200. This is Malaysiaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
i am a burmese anyway.
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