Meal ground by this process and used in the form of pellets especially for pet food. from dictionary dot com

actually blackwood is also in the not recommended category, 3 stars IIRC... but a lot of ppl seem to be doing fine with it...

I have been thinking about to switching to orijen once i finish my current food, so my two adult, indoor, not very active furkids will be the 'pak lou shi'...

Not sure about the protein content... all grainless food protein 40% and above so the 20% ish ones due to grain and fillers? Not sure if dogs naturally eat grains (but mine love durian) so how come they are sensative to high protein? BARF will give a much higher protein % no?

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Added on September 19, 2007, 9:17 amceaser not rated... either not sold in the US or terrible

This post has been edited by madmoz: Sep 19 2007, 09:17 AM

i think just dun bother about the review, if afford feed better food(Orijen, CN,Innova...). If not, feed average food loh(BW, Eukanoba, BilJac,....).If ur pup is ok with it, then ok loh, if not change loh..........
Not everytime expensive means good mah.........

This post has been edited by joanalooidog: Sep 19 2007, 09:24 AM

I kinda agree with joannalooidog, some of us are being too dependent on the review of the website. If you ask me, I would say buy whatever we can afford. If we have more money this month, eat better food. When we have less money, eat moderate food. When we are broke, then eat grass lor. It applies to humans too.

I agree the website will help to a certain extend like educating us which ingredient is not too healthy for dogs but somewhere in the world is a human feeding that particular brand with no problems throughout the dogs lifetime.

Decide what's best for your dog and your pocket. This advise was given to me by the Seapark Pet Supplies uncle. Many people say Eukanuba not good but yet it sponsored so many dog show and competition, same goes for Pedigree~! All the professional wont know they sucks meh?

Will it be ok if we change different food brands all the time?

Read this: http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/changing_foods.htm

Welcome to the harsh realities of life. Sponsorship = $$$
Same goes to why Science Diet is so well known. It's all about clever marketing...

I disagree about the buy what we can afford part though... methinks we should already set aside an amount to buy food for our babies... but that's just me.

You can ask my fiancee, I'd rather starve myself than have my furkids eat 'lower quality' food... although me no expert in determining quality either...

This post has been edited by madmoz: Sep 19 2007, 12:46 PM

Science Diet, we say no good - but my gf's sister husband feed his dog for 15 years with Science Diet... now the dog age 16+ year, still healthy ok?

Does it mean it's bad? I told my gf its bad, she disagree.

well, i fed my other dogs (lovely mongrels they were) pedigree pal for all their lives, and they all went when they were about 13 years old too, and they appear as healthy as can be until the day they checked out, but there is this nagging feeling at the back of my mind that perhaps they were not in the best of health, and merely surviving...

my mother in law feeds her dog table scraps, and aside from a few bouts of vomitting, he seems to be doing ok too.

mute point, really - we should all just do what we think is best for our furkids.

eukanuba not a good dog food? the packaging look nice to me.

I guess everyone have their story. Buy the brand you trust. Of course, I'd go for Orijen and other high end stuff compared to Pedigree and Eukanuba but then there are people who fed their pups all that throughout their life is still ok.

Not here to argue but like you said, up to individual to think which is best suited for their furkids. I understand where you're coming from and I think like you do - but sometimes when I speak to people around me, they proved otherwise so I just felt like sharing some differing opinion.

maybe mongrels are hardier than 'pedigree' dogs...

I think I'll try Orijen first.

after u got a puppy then talk lah, haha...........
and i can 99% sure the 1st pack u buy is not orijen. Coz the 1st pack u need to buy is the kibbles which the puppy is taking before u can change to Orijen slowly. And i can assure that most of them(not all) are not feeding Orijen.

cant find da article saying dat kibbles cant mix wif other stuffs..
mayb dat time i ngan far see wrong kua..
sorry everyone..

110% confirm, just a matter of time now.

Waaa, now I'm confused. Kibbles are what actually? Not those pup food (vegeterian, chicken, beef, lamb)?

Kibbles also stated there (vegeterian, chicken, beef, lamb)

Kibbles are like kokokrunch, corn flakes those ah? For smaller pups?

Kibbles= DRY DOG FOOD! Like orijen, blackwood,eagle pack...

eukanuba rox ~~

how true. IIRC, Eukanuba and/or Science Plan has a sponsorship programme for registered (MKA?) breeders, for every pup you get a certain amount of kibbles.

this is why so many breeders use Eukanuba/Science Plan, and seing that changing puppy food isn't exactly easy... well you get my drift.

Later tonight I do googling research.