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 ◙The New PROTON PERSONA◙ V2, ~Official Thread~

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post Oct 3 2007, 07:19 PM

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install like K-e-n-a-r-i sidemirror? bigger shakehead.gif rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 4 2007, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(dzariq @ Oct 4 2007, 06:33 PM)
WAHOO!! rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

car already reach dealer brows.gif

tak sempat ambek gambar tho...hehe...i can drive the car home by Tuesday next week...cant wait!!!...wats ur progress ralf?...

gathering 21hb?...beraya ka?...hehe...
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Congrat 4 your S.White... notworthy.gif

Pay downpayment 2days ago(Tuesday), waiting for "birth documents of car"..can get tomorrow evening or saturday. else need to wait for monday..
nebemind..wanna proceed to next stage liao...upgrade 2 better rubber tongue.gif tongue.gif


Added on October 4, 2007, 10:18 pm
QUOTE(dzariq @ Oct 4 2007, 08:24 PM)
susah la nak cakap pesen camana...6 spokes with 205/55/16 hankook ventus tyres...member punya....silver color...

nanti dah tukar ill post it here...tunggu dapat keter dulu ye..
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Good..
I m DownGrading!!--> to smaller size...195/55/15 tongue.gif

no money yet for the 205/55/16 ultra high performance rubber i want...it cost around rm450 per piece in penang.. rclxub.gif 4 tyres alone cost nearly rm2k exclude rim...no budget..

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post Oct 5 2007, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Oct 5 2007, 03:03 PM)
offset how much?
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i ask this question b4..no one answer my post here..

some said offset 38..some said 46. rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 6 2007, 03:36 PM

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Got mine this morning, BL(A) Iri White..just came back from tinted the glass..

So far, detect 2 defects doh.gif
a) Seatbelt light no function
b) Below steering wheel) aircond water leaking...wet my shoes and foot doh.gif

NVH..noise, vibration, harshness still need improvement..noisier than old Vios..
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post Oct 7 2007, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(frequency @ Oct 7 2007, 01:15 AM)
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i guess this was the first accident involved with persona?
the owner must be very heartbroken
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where's this incident happened?
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post Oct 7 2007, 02:06 AM

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FC still not bad...getting 10.5L.., odometer only 45km

Went to the accesories shop recommended for glass tint, the boss honestly told me most of his customers are Non national car owners.. rolleyes.gif tongue.gif :rolleyes:There's 2 news Camry, 2 Civic(less than half year only)..3 Vios(less than 3months)..1 Innova.. i choose the cheapest tint..rm480..no money liao sad.gif

I noticed the Boot is dangerous, it will close and slam downautomatically while hanging halfway icon_question.gif

spotted quite few Solid White Persona already..but none in Penang island.
One s.white PHL 44xx at Alor Setar..parked besides the White police car..not sure whether it is a Police car.because i saw the Red color strip...!!

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post Oct 7 2007, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ Oct 7 2007, 02:11 AM)
so far no problem... nyet nyet problem solved..... side mirror solved by put blind spot mirror.... aircond quite cool... FC now show 9.5l/100km
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no need sleep ka? 2.10am still awake? tongue.gif
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post Oct 7 2007, 12:09 PM

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auto trans persona 1st gear revving is good, press the pedal slightly harder, shift at 5-6.5k rpm. laugh.gif

But the campro engine Rpm is quite high for 1.6(auto)..

i get Silverstone Kruizer NS500, trade in also not much value... sad.gif

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post Oct 8 2007, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(shareal @ Oct 7 2007, 05:16 PM)
ralf u going to bt caves? im still thinking, coz all my relatives there coming here to celebrate raya shakehead.gif
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Errm..most probably nope..

nextime, u guys come Penang...do TehTarik session at Penang.. rclxms.gif


Added on October 8, 2007, 3:29 pm
QUOTE(soulfly @ Oct 7 2007, 07:11 PM)
God I hate Goodyear NCT, tyre noise when cornering...so lousy shakehead.gif
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Those cheap continental comfort, goodyear nct and silverstone nct are almost the same!


Added on October 8, 2007, 3:44 pm
QUOTE(BudoKid2002 @ Oct 8 2007, 11:19 AM)
hi all another testimony from me. just for sharing.
my wifes car is baseline auto.
just change metal rim to gen2 sport rim. i really must say theres a difference between rim besi and alloy in ride feel. i know, it could be psychological thing but fact it is lighter, softer on bumps and holes (or maybe air pressure been reduced? dunno) but overall im happy with it.
im using the gen2 bunga raya rim type. alot of people ask me why i pick this rim. answer is simple, standard, cheap, better than rim besi.
the tyres i got is goodyear nct. yes, i like it but the only drawback like somebody said is when do a slow cornering or u-turn, got sound a bit.

talk about u turn, road near my house requires me to do quiet narrow u-turn, so everyday i will take that uturn. but till today i still can get a perfect u turn without reversing). i can do it with other car, even merc can do 1 perfect turn. but merc, of course la, point is most car can do it. if they take 1 side a bit before turning.
moving on, the rear view mirrow. from reading the manual now i know that handle flip is meant for anti light glare during night. move it towards you to have anti glare, move back for normal daylight. i also notice the mirror reflection is blur intermittently due to vibration. later i found out, my radio is too loud, and the bass is causing that slight vibration. hahaha.
steering, like most people complain say its too plastic and hard. i think its decent enough by European standard for normal basic cars. my previous renault steering is also having similar material.
seats? the seats are great arent they? not too hard like waja, and not too soft as you want to use it for 10 years. baseline dont have adjustable height driver seats, and folding rear seats. but i figured, less is more. besides, its comfortable enough, ive had height adjustable seats before, and it breaks in 5-7 years.
hmm, what else, bought hp travel charger, plug it in and its working. great.
after nearly a week driving, still not used to parking especially rear. side mirror is too small, yes.
about the engine, now i know its a rev happy engine. couple with that tranny, i find it hard to keep myself from not speeding on highway. the extreme hot hood is gone, the burnt smell is gone, my aircond is set to middle, which is 25c i think, does not ON the fan and compressor quite often now. i find the temperature is cold enough for front and back passanger, with tinting of course. for fast cooling effect, during initial startup, i use recycle and top air direction.
the boot? yes the boot. it can fit four 15 inch metal rims, FLAT without stacking. marvelous.
the sound for remote locking is classy and exclusive (i hope). unlike the one in waja you have this irritating "chuut!-chuut!" sound. the alarm itself is horn based which can be pretty loud and embarrassing but isnt all alarm is?
the brakes, like i said before its a bit soft. but yesterday i had to do some emergency braking during high speed. not till stationary but i had to apply brake hard. and its comforting to know that it is good. the more importing thing is, i have good level of control on the car when braking. even though its not rear disc, abs and ebd, its still manageable. those who need abs and ebd is either a lady or Micheal Schumacher i think.
overall, general satisfaction is high for this car. its really value for money. and its simply the best car i can get with that price tag. i just want to tell everybody how great this car is. and actually, i feel kinda sorry for those who bought myvi. i just cant imagine how its like doing corners on long journey with that car. and the interior build quality is nothing to shout about. maybe the engine is good.
i also feel lucky my wife didnt buy city or vios. yes, FC is good but my goodness the body shell?? its nearly twice the price and i simply think its not worth it. those who bought city/vios must be thinking they are getting civic/altis or maybe camry. yes when comparing to persona, off course civic/altis/camry win hands down. but when compare to city/vios along with price factor, it is way sensible buy.

lastly, congratulation to everybody.
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Nice review! I like your words.. laugh.gif

"even though its not rear disc, abs and ebd, its still manageable. those who need abs and ebd is either a lady or Micheal Schumacher i think." rclxms.gif

Honestly speaking, the brake is abit soft for rear drum set up, such as heavy car should equip with rear disc..


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post Oct 8 2007, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Oct 8 2007, 05:31 PM)
the soft brake is not because of the rear drum, because the rear brakes are only contributing to less than 20% of the whole braking power and also for parking brake. it could be the front brake pads still not makan yet.
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maybe...need to wait for another 1k km..

If braking still no improve after that, then i suggest all future owners go for H-Line, abs, ebd..abc, bas..bla bla accesories tongue.gif with an attractive pricetag, rm1k discount




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post Oct 9 2007, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(dzariq @ Oct 9 2007, 06:45 PM)
GOT MY CAR TODAY!!!

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FINALLY!!

my SA kept his promise....im gratefull...
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Congrat, PICS..PIC PIC..fast!

Already Revv kaw kaw my car, 6.5krpm @1st and 2nd gear..
FUEL Consumption goes CraZee! I have reset it...after driving 30km, it still shows 12.5-13L/100km icon_question.gif

How come i set the Air-Cond to MAX, @30Celcius..it still blows Cold Air???
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post Oct 9 2007, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ Oct 9 2007, 07:51 PM)
push button so it will operate as fan.... push button so small light gone...
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I see.thanks! try already..it works..

my FC getting better by turning off the AC..still 11.5L/100km..the best i had ever seen is 10.5L

The rpm is quite High, rough engine, just now driving at 120km/h..i think the rpm is 3300-3400
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post Oct 10 2007, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ Oct 10 2007, 01:21 AM)
waja... but mine cannot tune wiper at low speed....


Added on October 10, 2007, 1:21 amralf.... dah dapat kereta???
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Collect mine at 6th October(last saturday)

I post the pic on page56/57 d..here is it


Added on October 10, 2007, 1:44 am
QUOTE(dzariq @ Oct 10 2007, 01:29 AM)
Oh btw...i got the Kruizer tyres...not bad...

i guess all ur reviews are pretty much the same as mine...the air cond fan is pretty loud...but not much of a problem tho....temperature is ok..a bit on the high side...maybe 40%...think its normal...

hmmm..brakes?...i think its just needs time to get use to...u just have to step on it a lil bit in order to prepare..something like u need to rest ur feet on the brake quite often...but if u slam it hard..it works...the braking power is quite good...

handling is great...but a slight bit of body roll...maybe coz the back is long...

side mirrors for me is ok...its just dat when im reversing...then theres a hard time...i cant see anything at the back!..

the sensors sound is pretty soft...so is the signal sound..sometimes i dont know dat im signalling!.

the acceleration is good enuff for city driving...already good enuff doing it while maintaining RPM below 3...crusing is goooddd...it seems to just want you to floor it...

yup..blaupunkt is greattt...will install my front speakers soon...

overall..im satisfied and im glad my SA kept his words...

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side mirrors for me is ok...its just dat when im reversing...then theres a hard time...i cant see anything at the back!..

True True!! Now i realize i need a Reverse Camera installed similar to those Luxury car..! sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
It's dangerous for especially children..kids standing behind

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post Oct 10 2007, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Oct 10 2007, 09:57 AM)
My dad just got his Persona (irridecent white BL) yesterday, which was my birthday (too bad not my birthday present  doh.gif )

Took it for a little test drive around TTDI ... compared to my Wira 1.5, the pros and cons:

Pros
- Better quality interior
- More spacious
- Quiet engine
- Accelerates quite fast (not sure my Wira or Persona faster)
- Strong aircond (and aircond can blow at feet)
- Safety features (move to D, car doors straightaway lock)
- Larger boot

Cons
- Takes a while for me to get used to left hand signalling
- Can't really see behind (less rear visibility)
- Side mirrors too small (better put some blindspot mirror or something)
- Soft braking (takes a while to get used to)
- Reverse sensor and signal kinda soft (as in the sound)

Temporary/useless cons
- Cannot open window til Friday, got tint
- Too long and wide for me (a bit hard to parallel park)
- No. plate got no 8 at all, and didn't manage to get WQQ

Overall, it's a much better car than the Wira ... but it's still new and only have a meter reading of about 50-60kms so far ...

And I'm still 'P' lesson btw ... din put the 'P' sticker on it ... I broke the road laws for let's say 30 mins!  rclxms.gif
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It's faster than Wira 1.5(M) and 1.5(A) for sure..1.5manual is no match to 1.6auto persona... smile.gif just see the rpm needle touch >6k rpm for 1st, 2nd on 3rd gear... icon_question.gif
yesterday midnite top @165kmh along BayanLepas flyover lhighway(from jalan tengah to sgdua bus teminal)..speedlimit is only 80kmh..Ok ok, the road is Clear of traffic..midnite already..overtook 1 SatriaNeo along the 4-5km long strecth
140km/h rpm is 3.8-4k rpm, can't remember..concentrate on driving..oops icon_question.gif

@160kmh, the ride is better than Vios !

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post Oct 10 2007, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Oct 10 2007, 10:35 PM)
Compared to my Wira again ah ...

When Wira off aircond and accelerate, quite fast

Got difference in acceleration for Persona or not if off aircond?
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Got difference! but it minimal...unlike those german monster with 2xx horsepower..there's no difference.

Driving downhill, anyone notice the rpm sudden jump to 2.8k -3k rpm before it goes back to normal, engine braking or kickdown by itself?? shakehead.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif


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post Oct 11 2007, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(dzariq @ Oct 11 2007, 02:33 AM)
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my car after a rim change!!...feel a bit more stable after changing to these 205/55/16 tyres...or perhaps just psychology?

do u guys think it will void any warranties?..dunt think so ya?....

anyway...i love the sound of the engine...it has a nice buzzing sound...havent heard it scream past 3 RPM yet..soon tho..hehe..

hmmm...ive done 486km already...1 thing i notice is dat when i turn left...theres a very slight rattling sound...hardly noticeable..but its there...turn right no problem...only left...no big issue but just wondering wat dat rattling sound could be...any ideas?.
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Same here, turn left got rattling noise!!
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post Oct 11 2007, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(dzariq @ Oct 11 2007, 10:36 AM)
Ralf...yeap...got rattling right?...so i guess its not becoz of my 16 inch tyres...the sound is from inside the hood...a slight rattling sound when turning to the left...it sound like a drive shaft...like my old satria has...when turn right..got a huge rattling sound...

anybody else got this issue?...my car also got a slight off alignment to the left...not sure coz of tyre or car...

but nevertheless...its a slight issue...perhaps just wait for the 1k service...another 400km to go...

im very satisfied with the car handling...can turn fast with confident...hehe..
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Yeap, got noise..something like wheel scratching wheel arch..or driveshaft noise..dunno..have to check first.

Turn right no problem, only happended while turning left

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post Oct 12 2007, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Oct 12 2007, 06:12 PM)
Anyone tested the top speed yet?
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Did 175kmh...after 160kmh, acceleration becomes very slow..

Rpm is very high for Campro, unlike the Korean 1.8..Chevvy Optra, if i'm not mistaken, doing 160-170kmh @ 4k rpm only..very low revv.


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post Oct 14 2007, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Oct 13 2007, 05:53 PM)
all persona owner raya and gathering and i still working while waiting for my car sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif
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post Oct 16 2007, 06:22 PM

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Did my car detailing today..30minutes car wash, another half an hour for drying. Spend 15minutes to remove some swirl marks and polish, 2hours for waxing. sad.gif

There are scratches on the door sidestep area because of dirty shoes that cannot be remove by ColorX, so i use Step2 polisher to polish it.
products use: Meguiars NXT Tech Wax, Meguiars ColorX, Meguiars Step2 polisher, Meguiars ScratchX and microfiber towel..

No more raining water marks, swirl marks and fine scatches, i m so happy with the end result. Going to purchase the Meguiars Clay, it really works..

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