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post Jul 9 2021, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Jul 9 2021, 01:41 PM)
Instead of subscribing to conspiracy theory of syndicates pilfering vaccines to be sold in the open market, a simple more acceptable reasoning would be that the nurse overworked after many days of dispensing the vaccine and forgot to fill the syringe.
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It’s easy to make an error and forget to fill the syringe. But there are many steps to the whole process-
- draw from the vial with the bigger needle
- change needle to smaller one
- tap syringe to ensure no air bubbles
- finally cucuk

Miss one or two steps is understandable but to finally press on the syringe but since it’s not even drawn, and the plunger didn’t even move, I find it hard to believe the nurse can miss all the steps.

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post Jul 9 2021, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Jul 9 2021, 01:49 PM)
It’s easy to make an error and forget to fill the syringe. But there are many steps to the whole process-
- draw from the vial with the bigger needle
- change needle to smaller one
- tap syringe to ensure no air bubbles
- finally cucuk

Miss one or two steps is understandable but to finally press on the syringe but since it’s not even drawn, and the plunger didn’t even move, I find it hard to believe the nurse can miss all the steps.
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I don't know... there could be more steps in the procedures... like filling in the syringes and laying them on a table first, the nurse pick up one that is yet to be filled, because the nurse was distracted and subsequently pressed the plunger without looking, all feel and touch without really looking and thought he had depressed the plunger and pushed out the vaccine.

The main point in the police report was that the complainer was given another jab after agreeing to delete the video. It is all in the police report. Awaiting further news on the police report...


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post Jul 9 2021, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Jul 9 2021, 10:57 AM)
Ur eye can project out things u've seen if there is a need ? Mine cant.
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You see with 👀, (not look elsewhere and check back some videos AFTER you leave the place), and if you see empty syringe, you stop the injection and complain immediately. If they tak layan, demand immediately to see supervisor and get your shot on the spot. Not leave place then only check video then only escalate after the fact.

Plus, I was responding to this sentence "but is good to look at the syringe before and after jab". So why not watch before, during and after? Why watch elsewhere? And let camera watch for you and you watch the phone after that? Can't watch the real thing as it happens?

This post has been edited by Aurora Boreali: Jul 9 2021, 04:15 PM
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post Jul 9 2021, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Jul 9 2021, 04:12 PM)
You see with 👀, (not look elsewhere and check back some videos AFTER you leave the place), and if you see empty syringe, you stop the injection and complain immediately. If they tak layan, demand immediately to see supervisor and get your shot on the spot. Not leave place then only check video then only escalate after the fact.

Plus, I was responding to this sentence "but is good to look at the syringe before and after jab". So why not watch before, during and after? Why watch elsewhere? And let camera watch for you and you watch the phone after that? Can't watch the real thing as it happens?
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Ya ya ... then why no photo no vdo all over the place ? body got shit izit ?

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post Jul 9 2021, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Jul 9 2021, 05:14 PM)
Ya ya ... then why no photo no vdo all over the place ? body got shit izit  ?
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just take it as less disturbance during the process la

imagine 10 people go in and 9 ppl asking the nurse to wait while preparing camera. sure will delay the whole process
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post Jul 9 2021, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jul 9 2021, 06:58 PM)
just take it as less disturbance during the process la

imagine 10 people go in and 9 ppl asking the nurse to wait while preparing camera. sure will delay the whole process
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Possible but dont think so, the whole no vdo or photo thingy pop out after the viral tembak angin vdo is circulated.

They can ask u to wait, nurse just cucuk je ... ur job is to cuck, not to wait. They wanna take vdo ka, photo ka, ape lan ka ... tu hal dea olang.


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post Jul 9 2021, 08:04 PM

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When for my vaccination.
They will show u the dose and tell u that this how many dose and what vaccine u get.

So happen here. They switched it after showing?
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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Jul 9 2021, 07:41 PM)
Possible but dont think so, the whole no vdo or photo thingy pop out after the viral tembak angin vdo is circulated.

They can ask u to wait, nurse just cucuk je ... ur job is to cuck, not to wait. They wanna take vdo ka, photo ka, ape lan ka ... tu hal dea olang.
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QUOTE(Koranshita @ Jul 9 2021, 08:04 PM)
When for my vaccination.
They will show u the dose and tell u that this how many dose and what vaccine u get.

So happen here. They switched it after showing?
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i went before this empty vaccine issue circulating and seen many no camera signs at the booth so this could be there since beginning

or it could be after getting the less doses issue
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jul 9 2021, 08:22 PM)
i went before this empty vaccine issue circulating and seen many no camera signs at the booth so this could be there since beginning

or it could be after getting the less doses issue
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Ahh ... then its legit.

With so many sign and still those vdo exists ... someone should have ask them to turn it off or gtfo ... then again the tembak angin will be under wrap ... no vdo, no proof, no case.
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post Jul 10 2021, 12:48 AM

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Damn. All these videos making me nervous. Taking my shot this Sunday at MBPJ Dewan Sivik. Today they giving Pfizer. Hopefully Sunday also Pfizer.

Looks like I need to keep my eyes on the syringe and the vaccine through out the whole process. 😅
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post Jul 10 2021, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Jul 10 2021, 12:48 AM)
Damn. All these videos making me nervous. Taking my shot this Sunday at MBPJ Dewan Sivik. Today they giving Pfizer. Hopefully Sunday also Pfizer.

Looks like I need to keep my eyes on the syringe and the vaccine through out the whole process. 😅
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i was there today 9/7 9am dewan sivik mbpj. yes pifzer was used.
they allowed me to take pic of the vial, syringe showing at 0.3 before injection, empty syringe after injection, and also video of the injection process. hope this clears your mind #kitajagakita
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post Jul 10 2021, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(aiyoyoyo @ Jul 10 2021, 01:48 AM)
i was there today 9/7 9am dewan sivik mbpj. yes pifzer was used.
they allowed me to take pic of the vial, syringe showing at 0.3 before injection, empty syringe after injection, and also video of the injection process. hope this clears your mind #kitajagakita
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So around 0.3 ML is used? I always thought that the volume is closer to 0.5 ML. Anyway, thank you for the clarification

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post Jul 10 2021, 04:26 PM


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QUOTE(sol_badguy @ Jul 10 2021, 04:19 PM)
So around 0.3 ML is used? I always thought that the volume is closer to 0.5 ML. Anyway, thank you for the clarification
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pfizer 0.3

az and sino 0.5
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post Jul 10 2021, 04:58 PM

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So we are allowed or not allowed to take video or photo?
And of course most nurses dont even fill and show u the syringe before jab,
In this case, kkm should come out with a procedure
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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jul 10 2021, 04:58 PM)
So we are allowed or not allowed to take video or photo?
And of course most nurses dont even fill and show u the syringe before jab,
In this case, kkm should come out with a procedure
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allow or not, i believe will depend on the ppv,nurses,staffs,doctors on duty
during my day of injection, the vaccinator at her booth was preparing the syringes, then put those syringes back into the ice box
this part yes we cant see. but i dont believe our govt are crazy enough to secretly swap our vaccines with something else tho
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post Jul 10 2021, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jul 10 2021, 04:58 PM)
So we are allowed or not allowed to take video or photo?
And of course most nurses dont even fill and show u the syringe before jab,
In this case, kkm should come out with a procedure
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I believe that there is already a procedure in place. Without procedure, all the vaccines can be jumbled up, administered after it's expiry accidently, stored outside of it's operating temperature and humidity etc
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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jul 10 2021, 04:58 PM)
So we are allowed or not allowed to take video or photo?
And of course most nurses dont even fill and show u the syringe before jab,
In this case, kkm should come out with a procedure
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It would be better for you to pay attention to what is going on than being too busy with your smartphone taking video/photo.

Wear short sleeve shirt/blouse and roll it up ahead of time, so that you're aware of what’s going on inside the vaccination booth, and not be distracted.

Try not to open any conversation with any personnel, you might be distracting them when they are doing their best to inoculate as quickly as they can to keep to the daily quota they have to complete each day.

(Take along reading glasses if you need reading glasses.)

The proper procedure, if not mistaken, has been set by KKM - weeks ago after a similar complaint. The nurse must show you the syringe and the amount of vaccine in it before the injection; and show you the syringe again after.

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Regarding the video and police report...

- KKM's immediate response was: it was "impossible".

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2021...ination-process


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post Jul 10 2021, 06:41 PM

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Sendiri bodoh tak faham procedure don't blame KKM for no video allowed.





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post Jul 10 2021, 06:59 PM

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Police have to arrest the person who did the injection as he is playing with human life for a few dollars. Or else they will keep on repeating it. So many of us will have false security. although we are not fully immunised.\

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post Jul 10 2021, 07:04 PM

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Just imagine this, u go through all the trouble process, happily thought u got vaccinated, when in truth u didn't get any. This feels like u got cheated, whole life is a lie

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