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jack2
post May 26 2021, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ May 26 2021, 07:49 PM)
Ok. Thanks.
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How much is the amount? May be you can get the victim and bargain to compensate half
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post May 26 2021, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ May 26 2021, 07:51 PM)
How much is the amount? May be you can get the victim and bargain to compensate half
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Ard 5k. Now bank is just liaising with bank to get back the fund. The 3rd person nor police has contacted me
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post May 26 2021, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ May 26 2021, 07:57 PM)
Ard 5k. Now bank is just liaising with bank to get back the fund. The 3rd person nor police has contacted me
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Bank can't practice so without court order.

If they can do so, why don't they apply to those that kena scam and still got money inside
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post May 26 2021, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ May 26 2021, 08:58 PM)
Bank can't practice so without court order.

If they can do so, why don't they apply to those that kena scam and still got money inside
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I think bank is asking nicely. Court order will just return the fund right away I assume?

That's what i don't understand.

Real Scammers to real victims those money they have difficulty retrieving it. But this due to negligence by third party on personal banking info, it becomes my fault.
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post May 26 2021, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ May 26 2021, 09:02 PM)
I think bank is asking nicely. Court order will just return the fund right away I assume?

That's what i don't understand.

Real Scammers to real victims those money they have difficulty retrieving it. But this due to negligence by third party on personal banking info, it becomes my fault.
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The world is unfair. Because the money is credited into your account, hence you are liable. Bank won't force you to repay and they can't do anything but you will need to wait until they unfreeze your account. Otherwise, close it but I am in doubts if they allow you to close.

Please tell the bank that the police has told you that bank has no right to freeze your bank account without court order or from police.

I heard one officer told me before. She said bank cant simply freeze their customers account until proven.
Now they freeze you before proven so.

That is why you can see a lot of mudah scammers continue to scam people although their bank account was reported many times but still, no action was taken by the bank but victims like you kena pula... do you think it is fair?

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post May 26 2021, 10:12 PM

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Share the username / name of the scammer please
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post May 26 2021, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ May 26 2021, 03:51 PM)
that's why when u receive payment from a 3rd party and not direct from buyer, reject it and refund them back with 10% admin fee
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Reject and refund with 10% fee... We do it manually right? No need to go bank and request
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post May 26 2021, 10:41 PM

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One more question... Is it safe to receive/accept money from their company and not from personal account? I think it's not safe. Lol
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post May 26 2021, 10:49 PM

Why so serious?
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Lesson learned, only trade with account with good reputations and many good trade records. and INSIST them to use account associated with their registered name
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post May 26 2021, 11:08 PM

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Did you get a copy of the police report? How exactly he said you scam?
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post May 27 2021, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(pobox @ May 26 2021, 11:08 PM)
Did you get a copy of the police report? How exactly he said you scam?
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I don't think the police report is available to read by others.
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post May 27 2021, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ May 27 2021, 12:13 AM)
I don't think the police report is available to read by others.
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So you wouldn't know what you were accused of? How sad
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post May 27 2021, 08:41 AM

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A potential scenario:

1. Buyer wants to buy USDT from you in p2p and he then confirm the purchase.
2. The buyer with an intention to scam will find a way to convince a third party to transfer money to your account with whatever reason he has.
3. 3rd party trusted him an transfer the money to you.
4. You received the money without knowing its a scam conducted by the buyer.
5. You release the USDT to buyer.
6. Buyer received the USDT and cut ties with his scam target.
7. Victim of the scam did not get whatever he wants from the buyer then report police, and the only proof he has is your banking account.
8. Your account got block due to the report...

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post May 27 2021, 09:31 AM

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Called BNM to clarify the situation.

3rd party is at fault for sharing his or her own banking details to other people. 3rd party should be responsible for it.

Seller is not wrong.
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post May 27 2021, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(pobox @ May 27 2021, 12:50 AM)
So you wouldn't know what you were accused of? How sad
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Yup. Funny isn't it.
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post May 27 2021, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(pobox @ May 27 2021, 12:50 AM)
So you wouldn't know what you were accused of? How sad
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I have many cases before whereby the banks won't tell you as they afraid of being sued because of giving such statement before proven you are guilty by the court but they freeze your account first.

To avoid such liability, they will never tell you.

But I have good relationship with one branch manager and she helped me to resolve the issue and she showed me the police report.
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post May 27 2021, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(eddychstu @ May 27 2021, 08:41 AM)
A potential scenario:

1. Buyer wants to buy USDT from you in p2p and he then confirm the purchase.
2. The buyer with an intention to scam will find a way to convince a third party to transfer money to your account with whatever reason he has.
3. 3rd party trusted him an transfer the money to you.
4. You received the money without knowing its a scam conducted by the buyer.
5. You release the USDT to buyer.
6. Buyer received the USDT and cut ties with his scam target.
7. Victim of the scam did not get whatever he wants from the buyer then report police, and the only proof he has is your banking account.
8. Your account got block due to the report...
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That is right. This is how third party scam works
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post May 27 2021, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ May 27 2021, 09:31 AM)
Called BNM to clarify the situation.

3rd party is at fault for sharing his or her own banking details to other people. 3rd party should be responsible for it.

Seller is not wrong.
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I don't think he shared his banking details. The scammer instructed him to transfer only.
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post May 27 2021, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ May 27 2021, 10:39 AM)
I don't think he shared his banking details. The scammer instructed him to transfer only.
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Still wrong as the account holder didn't do due diligence
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post May 27 2021, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(MANUTD676767 @ May 26 2021, 10:41 PM)
One more question... Is it safe to receive/accept money from their company and not from personal account? I think it's not safe. Lol
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Provided the buyer/ seller has stated that beforehand, safe.

I dealt with one that set the auto-generated message to display "Payment will be made from company account"

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