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Jagalat
post Nov 23 2021, 10:12 PM

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Understand the project is still new and may not exist in the kpkt idaman(which l can't find it at the moment), anyone has any link that spells this project is under hda/resi?

http://idaman2.kpkt.gov.my:8888/idv5/98_eH...dde8c&CFTOKEN=0

This post has been edited by Jagalat: Nov 23 2021, 10:12 PM
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post Nov 23 2021, 10:37 PM

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Don’t like about Pudu
1.High density
2.Expect a lot of short term stay (Airbnb) and common facilities will be hard to maintain. Not to mention collection of maintenance fees
3.Surrounding a bit nasty. Lots of foreigner workers. Front Jalan San Peng and back Jalan Pudu
4.Traffic is a nightmare
5. Layout no balcony for small units
6. Most unit only 1 car park or none
7. LRT AMPANG line not as favourable as Kelana line or MRT
8. Leasehold
9. Facing Bandar Malaysia comes with cemetery view

Don’t like about Trion
1. Industrial area. At night can be too quiet to walk around.
2. Next to a dead commercial Southgate / Fraser. Don’t know if Trion commercial can do well or not.
3. Sandwiches between 2-3 major road (Jalan sungai Besi, Jalan loke yew and new highway)
4. A bit of a walk to MRT/LRT and also safety is a concern too.
5. No food nearby at night without driving except the famous wanton noodles.
6. Traffic is a nightmare
7. Competition with nearby condo. Still have many unsold unit at One Residence.can see a few lights up at night block B.
8. Facing bandar malaysia comes with cemetery view
9. Not many shops around (walking distance)

There is a saying if u can strike out majority of dislikes, then this property is suitable for you. IMO, Don’t buy becoz u like the pros… buy becoz u can accept the cons







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post Nov 23 2021, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(chongmelvin2238 @ Nov 23 2021, 10:37 PM)
Don’t like about Pudu
1.High density
2.Expect a lot of short term stay (Airbnb) and common facilities will be hard to maintain. Not to mention collection of maintenance fees
3.Surrounding a bit nasty. Lots of foreigner workers. Front Jalan San Peng and back Jalan Pudu
4.Traffic is a nightmare
5. Layout no balcony for small units
6. Most unit only 1 car park or none
7. LRT AMPANG line not as favourable as Kelana line or MRT
8. Leasehold
9. Facing Bandar Malaysia comes with cemetery view

Don’t like about Trion
1. Industrial area. At night can be too quiet to walk around.
2. Next to a dead commercial Southgate / Fraser. Don’t know if Trion commercial can do well or not.
3. Sandwiches between 2-3 major road (Jalan sungai Besi, Jalan loke yew and new highway)
4. A bit of a walk to MRT/LRT and also safety is a concern too.
5. No food nearby at night without driving except the famous wanton noodles.
6. Traffic is a nightmare
7. Competition with nearby condo. Still have many unsold unit at One Residence.can see a few lights up at night block B.
8. Facing bandar malaysia comes with cemetery view
9. Not many shops around (walking distance)

There is a saying if u can strike out majority of dislikes, then this property is suitable for you. IMO, Don’t buy becoz u like the pros… buy becoz u can accept the cons
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i like your negativity comment which is fair view not purposely taruh. but yet i still like the project.

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post Nov 23 2021, 11:53 PM

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Kelana Jaya line = premium line tongue.gif
LRT Pudu hmm.gif

but the design for the skydeck is the pièce de résistance wub.gif

will it be managed by good/experienced management company in future or too early to tell?
Marcus1680803
post Nov 24 2021, 12:34 AM

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I think Pudu area is not in the KL Structure Plan 2040 for development/redevelopment... good luck anyway..
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post Nov 24 2021, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(chongmelvin2238 @ Nov 23 2021, 10:37 PM)
Don’t like about Pudu
1.High density
2.Expect a lot of short term stay (Airbnb) and common facilities will be hard to maintain. Not to mention collection of maintenance fees
3.Surrounding a bit nasty. Lots of foreigner workers. Front Jalan San Peng and back Jalan Pudu
4.Traffic is a nightmare
5. Layout no balcony for small units
6. Most unit only 1 car park or none
7. LRT AMPANG line not as favourable as Kelana line or MRT
8. Leasehold
9. Facing Bandar Malaysia comes with cemetery view

Don’t like about Trion
1. Industrial area. At night can be too quiet to walk around.
2. Next to a dead commercial Southgate / Fraser. Don’t know if Trion commercial can do well or not.
3. Sandwiches between 2-3 major road (Jalan sungai Besi, Jalan loke yew and new highway)
4. A bit of a walk to MRT/LRT and also safety is a concern too.
5. No food nearby at night without driving except the famous wanton noodles.
6. Traffic is a nightmare
7. Competition with nearby condo. Still have many unsold unit at One Residence.can see a few lights up at night block B.
8. Facing bandar malaysia comes with cemetery view
9. Not many shops around (walking distance)

There is a saying if u can strike out majority of dislikes, then this property is suitable for you. IMO, Don’t buy becoz u like the pros… buy becoz u can accept the cons
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Don’t like about Trion
1. Industrial area. At night can be too quiet to walk around. ----> under KL Structure Plan 2040 for redevelopment. If you go to see now, there are some traits already.. industrial are moving out
2. Next to a dead commercial Southgate / Fraser. Don’t know if Trion commercial can do well or not. ----> Largely due to Covid. One residence, Trion1&2 will boost up the human traffic
3. Sandwiches between 2-3 major road (Jalan sungai Besi, Jalan loke yew and new highway) ----> This is a good point right? If not, Midvalley is the worst
4. A bit of a walk to MRT/LRT and also safety is a concern too. ----> Agree
5. No food nearby at night without driving except the famous wanton noodles. ----> Same as Pudu
6. Traffic is a nightmare ----> Same as Pudu
7. Competition with nearby condo. Still have many unsold unit at One Residence.can see a few lights up at night block B. ----> Because it's leasehold ba.. Trion2 already sold up in less than a year. Not sure Trion 1 (not interested myself)
8. Facing bandar malaysia comes with cemetery view ----> Same as Pudu (corner side will be facing only)
9. Not many shops around (walking distance) ----> Same as Pudu
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post Nov 24 2021, 01:24 AM

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Still not get APDL yet...
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post Nov 24 2021, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(chongmelvin2238 @ Nov 23 2021, 10:37 PM)
Don’t like about Pudu
1.High density
2.Expect a lot of short term stay (Airbnb) and common facilities will be hard to maintain. Not to mention collection of maintenance fees
3.Surrounding a bit nasty. Lots of foreigner workers. Front Jalan San Peng and back Jalan Pudu
4.Traffic is a nightmare
5. Layout no balcony for small units
6. Most unit only 1 car park or none
7. LRT AMPANG line not as favourable as Kelana line or MRT
8. Leasehold
9. Facing Bandar Malaysia comes with cemetery view

Don’t like about Trion
1. Industrial area. At night can be too quiet to walk around.
2. Next to a dead commercial Southgate / Fraser. Don’t know if Trion commercial can do well or not.
3. Sandwiches between 2-3 major road (Jalan sungai Besi, Jalan loke yew and new highway)
4. A bit of a walk to MRT/LRT and also safety is a concern too.
5. No food nearby at night without driving except the famous wanton noodles.
6. Traffic is a nightmare
7. Competition with nearby condo. Still have many unsold unit at One Residence.can see a few lights up at night block B.
8. Facing bandar malaysia comes with cemetery view
9. Not many shops around (walking distance)

There is a saying if u can strike out majority of dislikes, then this property is suitable for you. IMO, Don’t buy becoz u like the pros… buy becoz u can accept the cons
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post Nov 24 2021, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(etcko @ Nov 24 2021, 01:28 AM)

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Good cons statements to shut those SA mouth kinda over promote this project
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post Nov 24 2021, 05:41 AM

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how come food is a problem here? its pudu eh there are hundreds of more than 30years old stalls here, ppl literally park along roadside every single day just to eat daichao behind, infront got weisekgai, and alongside road also everyday parked,inner summore got 'the store' that area even more food. even grab food also more choices. food is one main reason i want this place tho.

i compared it to other tod and this is the one that is closest and cheapest to real kl golden triangle.

i too is old pudu boy, and currently still living in pudu. i agree this area is already surrounded by old people and foriegn workers, mostly myammar. but many of them actually have families(at least my area),occasionally the young boys would get drunk and beat among themselves but only among themselves, they rarely kacau local people. as for traffic, yes 2200unit will definately jam the hell out at junction there, but i think developer main purpose is public transport convinience(my purpose as well), hence they only give 1 carpark. i dont think working ppl outside kl wanna bring or build a family here...its kl, nasty, and anxious city sad.gif

and i totally agree how over promoted by agents, i really dont like how they keep pushing me to drop booking fee first even before the actual brochure and show unit launched, they used same tactic to ask me out 'yumcha' and want to chitchat instead of bring me to showroom(it wasnt ready), and the info they giving arent even complete, just barely a background intro of developer and basic description of condo, not even layout is real! with such little info they already want a booking cheque ranting.gif anyway i was told that we have to queue to lock unit, and the my queueing number is 700+ out of 1100. i might not have the chance to get my fav unit , if that so i then have to look for other property
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post Nov 24 2021, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(Jagalat @ Nov 23 2021, 10:12 PM)
Understand the project is still new and may not exist in the kpkt idaman(which l can't find it at the moment), anyone has any link that spells this project is under hda/resi?

http://idaman2.kpkt.gov.my:8888/idv5/98_eH...dde8c&CFTOKEN=0
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Based on SA, it is under hda. Anyway, still do not have actual link yet i think.

QUOTE(chongmelvin2238 @ Nov 23 2021, 10:37 PM)
Don’t like about Pudu
1.High density
2.Expect a lot of short term stay (Airbnb) and common facilities will be hard to maintain. Not to mention collection of maintenance fees
3.Surrounding a bit nasty. Lots of foreigner workers. Front Jalan San Peng and back Jalan Pudu
4.Traffic is a nightmare
5. Layout no balcony for small units
6. Most unit only 1 car park or none
7. LRT AMPANG line not as favourable as Kelana line or MRT
8. Leasehold
9. Facing Bandar Malaysia comes with cemetery view

Don’t like about Trion
1. Industrial area. At night can be too quiet to walk around.
2. Next to a dead commercial Southgate / Fraser. Don’t know if Trion commercial can do well or not.
3. Sandwiches between 2-3 major road (Jalan sungai Besi, Jalan loke yew and new highway)
4. A bit of a walk to MRT/LRT and also safety is a concern too.
5. No food nearby at night without driving except the famous wanton noodles.
6. Traffic is a nightmare
7. Competition with nearby condo. Still have many unsold unit at One Residence.can see a few lights up at night block B.
8. Facing bandar malaysia comes with cemetery view
9. Not many shops around (walking distance)

There is a saying if u can strike out majority of dislikes, then this property is suitable for you. IMO, Don’t buy becoz u like the pros… buy becoz u can accept the cons
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Good summary. Just some minor corrections, the car park in this pudu project is either 1 or 2 carparks, meaning all unit will have carparks.

Another thing to point out is most (if not all) projects nearby are freehold one, while this project is leasehold only. So potential buyer must be aware of this.
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post Nov 24 2021, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(BubbLEonSoap @ Nov 24 2021, 05:41 AM)
how come food is a problem here? its pudu eh there are hundreds of more than 30years old stalls here, ppl literally park along roadside every single day just to eat daichao behind, infront got weisekgai, and alongside road also everyday parked,inner summore got 'the store' that area even more food. even grab food also more choices.  food is one main reason i want this place tho.

i compared it to other tod and this is the one that is closest and cheapest to real kl golden triangle.

i too is old pudu boy, and currently still living in pudu. i agree this area is already surrounded by old people and foriegn workers, mostly myammar. but many of them actually have families(at least my area),occasionally the young boys would get drunk and beat among themselves but only among themselves, they rarely kacau local people. as for traffic, yes 2200unit will definately jam the hell out at junction there, but i think developer main purpose is public transport convinience(my purpose as well), hence they only give 1 carpark. i dont think working ppl outside kl wanna bring or build a family here...its kl, nasty, and anxious city  sad.gif

and i totally agree how over promoted by agents, i really dont like how they keep pushing me to drop booking fee first even before the actual brochure and show unit launched, they used same tactic to ask me out 'yumcha' and want to chitchat instead of bring me to showroom(it wasnt ready), and the info they giving arent even complete, just barely a background intro of developer and basic description of condo, not even layout is real! with such little info they already want a booking cheque ranting.gif  anyway i was told that we have to queue to lock unit, and the my queueing number is 700+ out of 1100. i might not have the chance to get my fav unit , if that so i then have to look for other property
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Ya. The outsourced agent is stressing the shxt out of me... sad.gif
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post Nov 24 2021, 09:19 AM

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Will this be a TOD project?
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post Nov 24 2021, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(BubbLEonSoap @ Nov 24 2021, 05:41 AM)
how come food is a problem here? its pudu eh there are hundreds of more than 30years old stalls here, ppl literally park along roadside every single day just to eat daichao behind, infront got weisekgai, and alongside road also everyday parked,inner summore got 'the store' that area even more food. even grab food also more choices.  food is one main reason i want this place tho.

i compared it to other tod and this is the one that is closest and cheapest to real kl golden triangle.

i too is old pudu boy, and currently still living in pudu. i agree this area is already surrounded by old people and foriegn workers, mostly myammar. but many of them actually have families(at least my area),occasionally the young boys would get drunk and beat among themselves but only among themselves, they rarely kacau local people. as for traffic, yes 2200unit will definately jam the hell out at junction there, but i think developer main purpose is public transport convinience(my purpose as well), hence they only give 1 carpark. i dont think working ppl outside kl wanna bring or build a family here...its kl, nasty, and anxious city  sad.gif

and i totally agree how over promoted by agents, i really dont like how they keep pushing me to drop booking fee first even before the actual brochure and show unit launched, they used same tactic to ask me out 'yumcha' and want to chitchat instead of bring me to showroom(it wasnt ready), and the info they giving arent even complete, just barely a background intro of developer and basic description of condo, not even layout is real! with such little info they already want a booking cheque ranting.gif  anyway i was told that we have to queue to lock unit, and the my queueing number is 700+ out of 1100. i might not have the chance to get my fav unit , if that so i then have to look for other property
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So conclusion is good for single, not good for family. Good for investment (Airbnb or short stay) and not for long-term ownstay
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QUOTE(MalcomShorten @ Nov 24 2021, 09:19 AM)
Will this be a TOD project?
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Definitely is a TOD development, easy access via LRT, MRT and Monorial to PNB 118, TRX, KLCC and Bukit Bintang . Just 560 persf, apa mahu lagi, no need to insults the views of others, every project have pro and cons, can accept the cons, then go on. Those not interested, pun tak payah sound negatively , cheer up ✌✌😂😂
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QUOTE(Marcus1680803 @ Nov 24 2021, 12:40 AM)
Don’t like about Trion
1. Industrial area. At night can be too quiet to walk around. ----> under KL Structure Plan 2040 for redevelopment. If you go to see now, there are some traits already.. industrial are moving out
2. Next to a dead commercial Southgate / Fraser. Don’t know if Trion commercial can do well or not. ----> Largely due to Covid. One residence, Trion1&2 will boost up the human traffic
3. Sandwiches between 2-3 major road (Jalan sungai Besi, Jalan loke yew and new highway)  ----> This is a good point right? If not, Midvalley is the worst
4. A bit of a walk to MRT/LRT and also safety is a concern too. ----> Agree
5. No food nearby at night without driving except the famous wanton noodles. ----> Same as Pudu
6. Traffic is a nightmare  ----> Same as Pudu
7. Competition with nearby condo. Still have many unsold unit at One Residence.can see a few lights up at night block B.  ----> Because it's leasehold ba.. Trion2 already sold up in less than a year. Not sure Trion 1 (not interested myself)
8. Facing bandar malaysia comes with cemetery view ----> Same as Pudu (corner side will be facing only)
9. Not many shops around (walking distance)  ----> Same as Pudu
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I guess you should do more research drive n walk around to both areas. Pudu is a mature residential area, food is never an issue, CSL is industrial area, food serve normally till noon mainly target those workers. And no point those industrials moving out so soon when piece of big empty land (Bdr Malaysia) opposite remain stagnant.
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QUOTE(BubbLEonSoap @ Nov 24 2021, 05:41 AM)
how come food is a problem here? its pudu eh there are hundreds of more than 30years old stalls here, ppl literally park along roadside every single day just to eat daichao behind, infront got weisekgai, and alongside road also everyday parked,inner summore got 'the store' that area even more food. even grab food also more choices.  food is one main reason i want this place tho.

i compared it to other tod and this is the one that is closest and cheapest to real kl golden triangle.

i too is old pudu boy, and currently still living in pudu. i agree this area is already surrounded by old people and foriegn workers, mostly myammar. but many of them actually have families(at least my area),occasionally the young boys would get drunk and beat among themselves but only among themselves, they rarely kacau local people. as for traffic, yes 2200unit will definately jam the hell out at junction there, but i think developer main purpose is public transport convinience(my purpose as well), hence they only give 1 carpark. i dont think working ppl outside kl wanna bring or build a family here...its kl, nasty, and anxious city  sad.gif

and i totally agree how over promoted by agents, i really dont like how they keep pushing me to drop booking fee first even before the actual brochure and show unit launched, they used same tactic to ask me out 'yumcha' and want to chitchat instead of bring me to showroom(it wasnt ready), and the info they giving arent even complete, just barely a background intro of developer and basic description of condo, not even layout is real! with such little info they already want a booking cheque ranting.gif  anyway i was told that we have to queue to lock unit, and the my queueing number is 700+ out of 1100. i might not have the chance to get my fav unit , if that so i then have to look for other property
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To be exact most of them is myanmar refugee with families, few time passing by saw lot of them playing on this empty site. Compare pasar pudu wt bangla, still a better spot to me.
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QUOTE(MalcomShorten @ Nov 24 2021, 09:19 AM)
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How would you define a TOD? A single lrt nex beside??
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QUOTE(Maiiyowei @ Nov 24 2021, 09:50 AM)
Definitely is a TOD development, easy access via LRT, MRT and Monorial to PNB 118, TRX, KLCC  and Bukit Bintang .  Just 560 persf, apa mahu lagi,  no need to insults the views of others,  every project have pro and cons, can accept the cons, then go on.  Those not interested, pun tak payah sound negatively , cheer up ✌✌😂😂
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Cheap is one thing, how to deliver is another issue, developer is not charity, raw materials keep bump as all know, they r here to earn, never believe got waterfish developer, wat you pay wat you get. Gentle comments on fact indeed is necessary here, at least i'm not an agent to give 101 pros on this with purpose.
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QUOTE(BubbLEonSoap @ Nov 24 2021, 05:41 AM)
how come food is a problem here? its pudu eh there are hundreds of more than 30years old stalls here, ppl literally park along roadside every single day just to eat daichao behind, infront got weisekgai, and alongside road also everyday parked,inner summore got 'the store' that area even more food. even grab food also more choices.  food is one main reason i want this place tho.

i compared it to other tod and this is the one that is closest and cheapest to real kl golden triangle.

i too is old pudu boy, and currently still living in pudu. i agree this area is already surrounded by old people and foriegn workers, mostly myammar. but many of them actually have families(at least my area),occasionally the young boys would get drunk and beat among themselves but only among themselves, they rarely kacau local people. as for traffic, yes 2200unit will definately jam the hell out at junction there, but i think developer main purpose is public transport convinience(my purpose as well), hence they only give 1 carpark. i dont think working ppl outside kl wanna bring or build a family here...its kl, nasty, and anxious city  sad.gif

and i totally agree how over promoted by agents, i really dont like how they keep pushing me to drop booking fee first even before the actual brochure and show unit launched, they used same tactic to ask me out 'yumcha' and want to chitchat instead of bring me to showroom(it wasnt ready), and the info they giving arent even complete, just barely a background intro of developer and basic description of condo, not even layout is real! with such little info they already want a booking cheque ranting.gif  anyway i was told that we have to queue to lock unit, and the my queueing number is 700+ out of 1100. i might not have the chance to get my fav unit , if that so i then have to look for other property
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I too had a very bad experience with their outsourced agent. Keep saying very cheap, high ROI, 1 station from BBCC, totally disregarding the cons of the project such as the surrounding and super high density (even higher than M Vertica). While I feel that even considering the cons, the price is still quite attractive, but definitely not super big discounts like what he claimed to be.

Then he kept on pushing me to give cheque without any detailed info on the project. Say queue number already 800+ out of 1100, if don't give now will miss out on the project. He thinks I am so naive to believe this kind of trick when I used to work for property developer. Based on my experience, half of the 800+ won't even turn out, and from those that turn out, another half will eventually drop off. There is also no certainty that the developer will even obtain the APDL. I remember there used to be a case in Cheras where APDL delay for 2 years and the developer changed plan!

Seriously, what the agent is doing now is unethical and borderline illegal. If I have all the time in the world, I will consider reporting them to the authority.

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