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TSrebecca_choo
post May 22 2021, 01:43 PM, updated 5y ago

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Hi,

My insurance agent seems to be MIA and seems like someone else is now my so-called ‘agent’.

I’m looking to re-appoint a different agent for my policies.. is it possible?
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post May 22 2021, 01:49 PM

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post May 22 2021, 02:01 PM

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post May 22 2021, 02:08 PM

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nowadays insurance agent are useless
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post May 22 2021, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(malaozhai @ May 22 2021, 03:08 PM)
nowadays insurance agent are useless
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Ayam tot nowadays can buy directly via official website?
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post May 22 2021, 02:50 PM

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Ayam tot nowadays can buy directly via official website?
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post May 22 2021, 02:57 PM

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Not without consent from the agent whom you bought your currently policy from. I've tried and they put up alot red tape just to frustrate you. Best way out is to buy any new policy with the agent of your choice.
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post May 22 2021, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ May 22 2021, 02:57 PM)
Not without consent from the agent whom you bought your currently policy from. I've tried and they put up alot red tape just to frustrate you. Best way out is to buy any new policy with the agent of your choice.
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If stand alone sure if with investment link alot money burn
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post May 22 2021, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ May 22 2021, 03:05 PM)
If stand alone sure if with investment link alot money burn
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Latest policy offered should be better in terms of coverage and benefits so canceling the old to buy the new can be beneficial in certain cases. Those who have a large portion of their premium tied in investment linked will lose out more the longer the policy is enforced so you either cut early or you die die also pay till matured. Also, take note not to cancel your old policy until at least 6-9 mths have passed since you bought the replacement policy. Insurer are known to take every chance to deny life/medical policy bought only months ago.

TS can go to their HQ and file a complaint that your agent is not giving you due service. The backup agent that's appointed to you probably comes from the agency instead of the insurer.
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post May 24 2021, 09:52 AM

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Thanks for all your replies and inputs, much appreciated.

I called Allianz (my insurance provider) and they said that it's possible and it's as easy as just sending a 'surat rasmi' to them, state the new agent name and agent code and the change will take place in 2 weeks time.

Cheers.
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post May 24 2021, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ May 22 2021, 02:57 PM)
Not without consent from the agent whom you bought your currently policy from. I've tried and they put up alot red tape just to frustrate you. Best way out is to buy any new policy with the agent of your choice.
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Prudential cannot easily change agent. try b4, premium will be revise. I believe to protect old agent from kill by new agent. since new agent might steal old agent client.

Ask faiz bmw 330i sunset orange, he as a prudential agent said the same things.

QUOTE(rebecca_choo @ May 24 2021, 09:52 AM)
Thanks for all your replies and inputs, much appreciated.

I called Allianz (my insurance provider) and they said that it's possible and it's as easy as just sending a 'surat rasmi' to them, state the new agent name and agent code and the change will take place in 2 weeks time.

Cheers.
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premium still the same?. prudential, premium follow old agent. once change agent, premium will be different. kek
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post May 24 2021, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(rebecca_choo @ May 22 2021, 01:43 PM)
Hi,

My insurance agent seems to be MIA and seems like someone else is now my so-called ‘agent’.

I’m looking to re-appoint a different agent for my policies.. is it possible?
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Yes it is possible to change insurance agent.
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post May 24 2021, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(mffa @ May 24 2021, 11:26 AM)
Prudential cannot easily change agent. try b4, premium will be revise. I believe to protect old agent from kill by new agent. since new agent might steal old agent client.

Ask faiz bmw 330i sunset orange, he as a prudential agent said the same things.
premium still the same?. prudential, premium follow old agent. once change agent, premium will be different. kek
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You're mis-informed. There is no such thing that cannot change agent easily and that there is a premium increase when take over the policy servicing.

Agents that tell you that just want to earn from you as they will not be able to earn from your previous policy.

I had taken over policies as far as KL/Sabah (I am from Penang) and assist them with claims. Later if they top up/add on/refer people only will I earn. If they don't top up/refer also is okay, this business is for long term and more importantly is to help people.
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post May 24 2021, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(mffa @ May 24 2021, 11:26 AM)
Prudential cannot easily change agent. try b4, premium will be revise. I believe to protect old agent from kill by new agent. since new agent might steal old agent client.

Ask faiz bmw 330i sunset orange, he as a prudential agent said the same things.
premium still the same?. prudential, premium follow old agent. once change agent, premium will be different. kek
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Everything is right except the premium part. The premium changes is not to protect agents (agents is like us, just a small pebble in a quary). When you buy a policy, the premium is locked in for a certain period of time (assuming everything normal) and you can know at certain age, the premium will increase (because you're more likely to fall down injuring yourself due to old age) and many other factors like family history or vices (smoking drinking etc). That's why your premium doesn't go up every year (by statistic medical cost goes up every year), they instead go up once every few years. So when you change an agent, your policy will be review and the premium will be calculated base on the time it was being review so your premium sure go up lo.


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post May 24 2021, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ May 22 2021, 02:57 PM)
Not without consent from the agent whom you bought your currently policy from. I've tried and they put up alot red tape just to frustrate you. Best way out is to buy any new policy with the agent of your choice.
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Agents like this better stay away la... only in it for the commission.

The change of agent form for Prudential don't even have a column for the former agent to sign, therefore there is no need to get consent from the former agent.
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post May 24 2021, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(rebecca_choo @ May 22 2021, 01:43 PM)
Hi,

My insurance agent seems to be MIA and seems like someone else is now my so-called ‘agent’.

I’m looking to re-appoint a different agent for my policies.. is it possible?
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definitely can.
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post May 24 2021, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ May 24 2021, 11:50 AM)
Agents like this better stay away la... only in it for the commission.

The change of agent form for Prudential don't even have a column for the former agent to sign, therefore there is no need to get consent from the former agent.
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I'm not 100% certain, but fill that form only puts a new agent to service you. If there is still commission payable to the old agent, he/she will still get it. When they check in the system, old agent still lead in your policy.
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post May 24 2021, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ May 24 2021, 11:53 AM)
I'm not 100% certain, but fill that form only puts a new agent to service you. If there is still commission payable to the old agent, he/she will still get it. When they check in the system, old agent still lead in your policy.
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It doesn't matter if the commission is still payable to the old agent.

More importantly as a customer, avoid cancelling your old policy just because the agent is no longer contactable or no longer able to service you. Everything restarts when you cancel and get a new policy, the Waiting Period (up to 2 years incontestability clause), the cash value allocation (restart from 60% from yr1), the agent commission restarts (from year 1~6).

Your insurance contract is with the insurance company, not with the agent.
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post May 24 2021, 12:22 PM

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Once your agent MIA (most probably terminated/not continuing with contract), your policy will be taken care by the Manager/Leader of your agent. So anything related with your policy will need to liaise with them even you did not appoint them. Even the commission also will go to them.

You can easily change to new agent by simply sending a letter to the insurance company. However, finding agent who want to be your new agent is another challenge as not many agent want to accept because they will not earn anything from your policy. Only if you take new policy with the new agent then they will earn commission. If u cancel old policy & take new 1 with new agent (same company) also new agent won’t earn any commission

That’s why when to change agent, new agent is hard to find & old agent will find ways to make sure u keep ur policy witth them
Thus finding the right agent to sign up with is very important
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QUOTE(roystevenung @ May 24 2021, 12:11 PM)
It doesn't matter if the commission is still payable to the old agent.

More importantly as a customer, avoid cancelling your old policy just because the agent is no longer contactable or no longer able to service you. Everything restarts when you cancel and get a new policy, the Waiting Period (up to 2 years incontestability clause), the cash value allocation (restart from 60% from yr1), the agent commission restarts (from year 1~6).

Your insurance contract is with the insurance company, not with the agent.
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Well said.
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post May 24 2021, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ May 24 2021, 12:22 PM)
Once your agent MIA (most probably terminated/not continuing with contract), your policy will be taken care by the Manager/Leader of your agent. So anything related with your policy will need to liaise with them even you did not appoint them. Even the commission also will go to them.

You can easily change to new agent by simply sending a letter to the insurance company. However, finding agent who want to be your new agent is another challenge as not many agent want to accept because they will not earn anything from your policy. Only if you take new policy with the new agent then they will earn commission. If u cancel old policy & take new 1  with new agent (same company) also new agent won’t earn any commission

That’s why when to change agent, new agent is hard to find & old agent will find ways to make sure u keep ur policy witth them
Thus finding the right agent to sign up with is very important
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Thanks, indeed my policies now went to the team leader of my previous agent.
But I didn't knew that the new agent that I'm going to appoint wouldn't earn a single cent out of my current policies. Is it the same for all insurance providers?

I was under the impression that the commission will be diverted to the new agent.
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post May 25 2021, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(rebecca_choo @ May 24 2021, 01:39 PM)
Thanks, indeed my policies now went to the team leader of my previous agent.
But I didn't knew that the new agent that I'm going to appoint wouldn't earn a single cent out of my current policies. Is it the same for all insurance providers?

I was under the impression that the commission will be diverted to the new agent.
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Unless the policy is transferred by the agent to another agent.

Client requesting to change agent, new agent got no immediate financial benefit.

Best,
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QUOTE(roystevenung @ May 24 2021, 11:48 AM)
You're mis-informed. There is no such thing that cannot change agent easily and that there is a premium increase when take over the policy servicing.

Agents that tell you that just want to earn from you as they will not be able to earn from your previous policy.

I had taken over policies as far as KL/Sabah (I am from Penang) and assist them with claims. Later if they top up/add on/refer people only will I earn. If they don't top up/refer also is okay, this business is for long term and more importantly is to help people.
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Unker sell prudential ar?. I know can change agent. but premium will be different. maybe due to below reason?

QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ May 24 2021, 11:50 AM)
Everything is right except the premium part. The premium changes is not to protect agents (agents is like us, just a small pebble in a quary). When you buy a policy, the premium is locked in for a certain period of time (assuming everything normal) and you can know at certain age, the premium will increase (because you're more likely to fall down injuring yourself due to old age) and many other factors like family history or vices (smoking drinking etc). That's why your premium doesn't go up every year (by statistic medical cost goes up every year), they instead go up once every few years. So when you change an agent, your policy will be review and the premium will be calculated base on the time it was being review so your premium sure go up lo.
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Why policy need to be review?. means for sure premium goes up la right?.

no wonder agent missing once sellling insurance.lol


QUOTE(roystevenung @ May 24 2021, 12:11 PM)
It doesn't matter if the commission is still payable to the old agent.

More importantly as a customer, avoid cancelling your old policy just because the agent is no longer contactable or no longer able to service you. Everything restarts when you cancel and get a new policy, the Waiting Period (up to 2 years incontestability clause), the cash value allocation (restart from 60% from yr1), the agent commission restarts (from year 1~6).

Your insurance contract is with the insurance company, not with the agent.
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this one of course many know liao. new policy design at that time. its fair for the price.

but old policy, if we want to change, wHy need to review la apa la.
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QUOTE(rebecca_choo @ May 24 2021, 01:39 PM)
Thanks, indeed my policies now went to the team leader of my previous agent.
But I didn't knew that the new agent that I'm going to appoint wouldn't earn a single cent out of my current policies. Is it the same for all insurance providers?

I was under the impression that the commission will be diverted to the new agent.
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QUOTE(Holocene @ May 25 2021, 08:29 AM)
Unless the policy is transferred by the agent to another agent.

Client requesting to change agent, new agent got no immediate financial benefit.

Best,
Jiansheng
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why they design system like this?. to benefit agent that sell policy in the first place?.

the system got backire already. so many slow and irresponsible agent


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QUOTE(rebecca_choo @ May 24 2021, 01:39 PM)
Thanks, indeed my policies now went to the team leader of my previous agent.
But I didn't knew that the new agent that I'm going to appoint wouldn't earn a single cent out of my current policies. Is it the same for all insurance providers?

I was under the impression that the commission will be diverted to the new agent.
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QUOTE(mffa @ May 27 2021, 04:49 PM)
why they design system like this?. to benefit agent that sell policy in the first place?.

the system got backire already. so many slow and irresponsible agent
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The system is as such so that there will be no internal pinching of customers between agents; First Agent gets the full rights to the commission.


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post May 27 2021, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(mffa @ May 24 2021, 11:26 AM)
Prudential cannot easily change agent. try b4, premium will be revise. I believe to protect old agent from kill by new agent. since new agent might steal old agent client.

Ask faiz bmw 330i sunset orange, he as a prudential agent said the same things.
premium still the same?. prudential, premium follow old agent. once change agent, premium will be different. kek
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You believed the talk cock king? Bought my first insurance when started working, the agent is actually my friend, then went awol and the agency head driving real Ferrari unlike media preview sunset orange took over. No bother to call nor write.
Then change to Roy below, PLUS bought new for my whole family with uncle.

QUOTE(roystevenung @ May 24 2021, 11:48 AM)
You're mis-informed. There is no such thing that cannot change agent easily and that there is a premium increase when take over the policy servicing.

Agents that tell you that just want to earn from you as they will not be able to earn from your previous policy.

I had taken over policies as far as KL/Sabah (I am from Penang) and assist them with claims. Later if they top up/add on/refer people only will I earn. If they don't top up/refer also is okay, this business is for long term and more importantly is to help people.
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Uncle register for AZ yet?

This post has been edited by JoeYoung: May 27 2021, 07:33 PM
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post May 27 2021, 07:40 PM

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can change agent, call ur insurance company tapi new agents xdpt apa2 pun dari kamu...komisen pun xda
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 27 2021, 07:17 PM)
The system is as such so that there will be no internal pinching of customers between agents; First Agent gets the full rights to the commission.
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Then, they should give penalty to agent who got report from their client.

But I do believe, they insurance company dont bother, as agent bring money.

QUOTE(JoeYoung @ May 27 2021, 07:32 PM)
You believed the talk cock king? Bought my first insurance when started working, the agent is actually  my friend, then went awol and the agency head driving real Ferrari unlike media preview sunset orange took over. No bother to call nor write.
Then change to Roy below, PLUS bought new for my whole family with uncle.
Uncle register for AZ yet?
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Bruh..that dude dont see now la. now he is talk cock. no one will believed. See himself 4 years ago la. He quite honest and down to earth. but once change into sunset orange, damn 360 degree transformation.

He should stick to persona liao. lol.
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QUOTE(mffa @ May 28 2021, 08:03 AM)
Then, they should give penalty to agent who got report from their client.

But I do believe, they insurance company dont bother, as agent bring money.
Bruh..that dude dont see now la. now he is talk cock. no one will believed. See himself 4 years ago la. He quite honest and down to earth. but once change into sunset orange, damn 360 degree transformation.

He should stick to persona liao. lol.
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The most you can do is make complaint which may affect the commission received by the agent under the BSC guideline. Otherwise, that’s the most you can do but you won’t be able to totally remove the commission received by the agent or transfer it to someone else to get them.
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post May 28 2021, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(JoeYoung @ May 27 2021, 07:32 PM)
You believed the talk cock king? Bought my first insurance when started working, the agent is actually  my friend, then went awol and the agency head driving real Ferrari unlike media preview sunset orange took over. No bother to call nor write.
Then change to Roy below, PLUS bought new for my whole family with uncle.
Uncle register for AZ yet?
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