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post May 22 2021, 11:48 AM, updated 5y ago

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My Most Reliable Car Has Been My 2012 Peugeot 308 1.6 THP

FERDINAND  |  MAY 03, 2021 09:22 AM

Now before you think this article is clickbait - it isn't, I actually really do mean it, my most reliable car over this past year has been my 2012 Peugeot 308 1.6 THP, so indulge me, an owner to regale you with stories of how brilliant the car is to drive, how it's not-so-cheap to maintain but ultimately why I wouldn't sell it for anything else!

So before we embark on the story of the Pug, how did it come to get the title of 'most reliable'? You must own an Alfa Romeo and a Fiat for a Peugeot to be your most reliable daily driver? Actually, no. My two other cars are my 'toys', my BMW E36 - a work in progress and my BMW E30 Sedan, which is also a work in progress. Make no mistake on most days I love my Beemers, they both drive on rails, pull hard and my E30 gives me lots of street cred. But when I want fuss-free, attention-free motoring, I reach for the keys of my Peugeot 308. 

I've driven and maintained my 308 for about two years now. In the space of that two years, I've changed: 

- Head gasket cover - RM1000
- Rear brake pads - RM285
- Front brake pads - RM295
- Wheel speed sensor x 2 - RM510
- Front window wipers - RM180 
- Car mat - RM190
- Air-cond gas refill - RM80  
- Automatic Transmission Fluid - RM350

The above were one-time repairs/ replacements thus far. 

I've serviced the car three times so far and I only use Rowe Fully Synthetic engine oil that sets me back RM285 for 4 litres in addition to a Peugeot oil filter for RM45. 

I've had all four tyres changed, aligned and balanced for RM936. I'm currently running Sportiva 225/45/17. 

Under recall (May 2020) from Nasim Sdn. Bhd, the compressor, condenser, the associated seals, bearings and hoses were changed at the cost of approximately 3.5k. I paid nothing. 

Now putting all these numbers in context is the maintenance of a 2012 Peugeot 308 all that ludicrous really? Is it any more expensive than your BMW E90 or Volkswagen Golf Mk6?

When the Peugeot 308 1.6 FL was first launched here in Malaysia it started from RM102,888 for the VTi and RM121,888 for the Turbo. Today second-hand options can be found from as low as RM15,000. 

Some of the notable features of the turbo variant:

- 156hp, 240Nm of torque
- Six-speed adaptive gearbox with Tiptronic and Sport Mode
- ABS, EBD, EBA, Isofix, 4 airbags, ESP and DSC
- Panoramic sunroof
- Automatic dual-zone air-conditioning with rear blowers

Now before you call this a Peugeot advertisement or me a Peugeot fanboy (I am a little), bear in mind that the plastic and touch surfaces on the 308 are s**tty, flaky and crumble over time. Simply put the interior materials used were just not suitable for our weather and climate. The gear lever literally crumbled in my hands, but fortunately, replacements are inexpensive across Shopee or Lazada. The roof lining sags after a few years (repairs cost about RM400 to glue it back in place),

Below are some of the more common mechanical issues you should look out/ budget for:

- HPFP (high pressure fuel pump) - has been known to be problematic, replacements cost approximately 1.7k
- Engine oil leak - a replacement package consisting of oil filter housing + turbo lubrication pipe + turbo return hose + labor will set you back approximately RM880
- Coolant leak - thermostat most likely needs replacement, approximately RM800
- Turbo losing pressure - housing replacement at approximately 1.2k
- High carbon build-up - decarbonisation starting from RM488

It's also very important to be informed and to have a community of owners that you can learn from or contribute to, the Peugeot 308 Club on Facebook has been an inexhaustible source of information and guidance. And of course, a reliable mechanic that won't shortchange you. Generally for continental makes, you do need a bit more specialized care, your regular run-of-the-mill bawah pokok mechanic might not have the right diagnostic tools for your Peugeot, Citroen, Renault, BMW, etc. I maintain my car at Bros Auto in Kota Damansara with Kent Wan and Razlan Shah. The approximate prices you see above are courtesy of them. As I have only maintained my Peugeot with them, I cannot speak of other mechanics/ workshops that may be equally proficient. A colleague who owns a Peugeot RCZ has his car serviced at Edar Auto in Cheras and informs me that they are totally adequate for servicing purposes. 

My point here is that when you're owning/ maintaining/ thinking of buying an older continental make, it is important to have a reliable trustworthy mechanic, better if they also happen to be close to where you live (you know in case of breakdowns, etc).

If you've reached this point of the article, then go look back at some of your repair bills, receipts and compare that against the 308. Then benchmark that against its selling price when it was first launched and its resale price today. If that gives you room for pause or makes you consider one, then please test drive a few, refer to the owner's groups for guidance, have it checked thoroughly by a trusted mechanic and then decide if you'd like to have a hot French hatch in your driveway. I've not even touched on the driving dynamics yet but we'll save that for another day. 

By the way, road tax + insurance comes up to about RM1000 a year depending on your cover. I opted for the add-in of Special Perils and Windscreen. My go-to insurance is Allianz for all my vehicles mostly because I have a very trustworthy insurance agent that takes care of all my insurance needs. 

Yes, there is always a chance you could end up with a lemon or citron as the French call it but if you've done your due diligence then you should be well served for years yet. 

If you're a current Peugeot owner and you've not updated your contact details with Berjaya Auto Alliance (the new distributors for Peugeot in Malaysia) then please do so here. 

If you decide to buy a 308 then let me know, we can have a teh-tarik and exchange war stories! 

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post May 22 2021, 11:49 AM

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Honest review.

It went from showroom to workshop in 7.8 seconds.
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Peugeot with EP6 engine? Engineered to fail. This my take as a 3008 owner. Nothing but trouble.
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Most reliable among bunch of low reliability car brand in Malaysia

Sure........
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post May 22 2021, 11:53 AM

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2012 peugeot 308 is 4AT or 6AT?

if 4AT then you will have more issue with the gearbox
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post May 22 2021, 11:55 AM

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topkek this guy set the bar too low to call it reliable
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 22 2021, 11:53 AM)
2012 peugeot 308 is 4AT or 6AT?

if 4AT then you will have more issue with the gearbox
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6AT 156hp
4AT 140hp if not mistaken
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Want reliable buy Toyota/Kia.
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post May 22 2021, 11:59 AM

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My tin milo has never went to workshop in its 8 yrs of life apart from bumper spray and std maintenance. Also:

- Head gasket cover - RM1000 - must be made of gold
- Rear brake pads - RM285 - Why put brakes when its not required? biggrin.gif
- Front brake pads - RM295 - RM100 for tin milo (only 2 ccp made pads required)
- Wheel speed sensor x 2 - RM510 - 8 yrs belum replace, dunno even if milotin got sensor or not
- Front window wipers - RM180 - RM20 Bosch cheapshit, silicon RM35
- Car mat - RM190 - RM60 full set CCP made, thicker than stock
- Air-cond gas refill - RM80 - mmmm rm60, not much diff
- Automatic Transmission Fluid (ONE OFF? topkek) - RM350 - Stick oil RM75

When all is done, my tin milo still has better power weight ratio on top of all that. Cons:
1. bontot sakit la, hikayat tin milo sedunia
2. turn turtle at every corner

From a lot of lalabengs unker know, this particular brand tops the list of spending more time in workshop than on the road/parking lot

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post May 22 2021, 12:01 PM

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To be fair during that time 2012
That's the cheapest turbo u can get on the market.

With all the bells n whistles usually reserved for Camry or accord

On, hindsight that car was made during Peugeot malaise period
Where the rejuvenation started with the new 208 was just a couple of years away
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most rubbish car ever my family owned.
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post May 22 2021, 12:06 PM

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yep..most reliable that had to purposely make a case of it lol

..and yet multiple experiences of the opposite omegalol

thats some tryhard stuff right there
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QUOTE(cHaRsIeWpAu^^ @ May 22 2021, 12:03 PM)
most rubbish car ever my family owned.
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Same year and model? Been eyeing the 1.2 Puretech for awhile now
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QUOTE(Dezs @ May 22 2021, 11:59 AM)
My tin milo has never went to workshop in its 8 yrs of life apart from bumper spray and std maintenance. Also:

- Head gasket cover - RM1000 - must be made of gold
- Rear brake pads - RM285 - Why put brakes when its not required? biggrin.gif
- Front brake pads - RM295 - RM100 for tin milo (only 2 ccp made pads required)
- Wheel speed sensor x 2 - RM510 - 8 yrs belum replace, dunno even if milotin got sensor or not
- Front window wipers - RM180 - RM20 Bosch cheapshit, silicon RM35
- Car mat - RM190 - RM60 full set CCP made, thicker than stock
- Air-cond gas refill - RM80  - mmmm rm60, not much diff
- Automatic Transmission Fluid (ONE OFF? topkek) - RM350 - Stick oil RM75

Ok. Still better power weight ratio on top of all that. Cons: bontot sakit la, hikayat tin milo sedunia

From a lot of lalabengs unker know, this particular brand tops the list of spending more time in workshop than on the road/parking lot
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Wiper expensive is because it used top lock instead of standard U-hook ..Even Plotong now started to use it

and RM180 should be using Bosch Aerotwin (maybe buy from ori shop kot)

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post May 22 2021, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ May 22 2021, 12:08 PM)
Same year and model? Been eyeing the 1.2 Puretech for awhile now
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just make sure you dont set same expectation like vios ; city

the car itself will be more sensitive than other car ..improper usage for long time will have issue ..once have issue when fix will mahal

although there is many sub-standard part and they do share common parts with other peugeot and Mini..

but dont use sub-standard part..later rosak lagi

like example my 508 ..high pressure fuel pump (if you buy ori = 1.8k ; sub-standard compatible part from taobao = 600)

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It can be luck.

Surprisingly my 208 GTi still runs good until today. Just maintain, pump petrol and drive.


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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 22 2021, 12:12 PM)
just make sure you dont set same expectation like vios ; city

the car itself will be more sensitive than other car ..improper usage for long time will have issue ..once have issue when fix will mahal

although there is many sub-standard part and they do share common parts with other peugeot and Mini..

but dont use sub-standard part..later rosak lagi

like example ..high pressure fuel pump (if you buy ori = 1.8k ; sub-standard compatible part from taobao = 600)
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I don't think the puretech ones share parts with mini anymore.
No longer uses the prince engine but Peugeot own puretech right?
Correct me if I am wrong tho
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QUOTE(Chekusan2019 @ May 22 2021, 12:16 PM)
I don't think the puretech ones share parts with mini anymore.
No longer uses the prince engine but Peugeot own puretech right?
Correct me if I am wrong tho
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Yes. Puretech no more JV with BMW.
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QUOTE(Chekusan2019 @ May 22 2021, 12:16 PM)
I don't think the puretech ones share parts with mini anymore.
No longer uses the prince engine but Peugeot own puretech right?
Correct me if I am wrong tho
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Yup. PureTech no longer share with Mini

only PSA related car used this engine.. just now i quickly google ..seems like 1 toyota model also use Puretech..not sure valid or not
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PSA_engines
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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ May 22 2021, 12:08 PM)
Same year and model? Been eyeing the 1.2 Puretech for awhile now
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should be around those year 2013 to 2015. not so sure.

it’s good to drive when no problem. but the problems usually cannot be solved lol.
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IMO, it's a waste of money.
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Mine was the pre-facelift 1.6 THP.

Engine trouble started in exactly two year. The car just doesn't feel right even after warranty repairs. I sold it two months later at 20k+ mileage. Never again.

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QUOTE(Henry T @ May 22 2021, 12:22 PM)
Mine was the pre-facelift 1.6 THP.

Engine trouble started in exactly two year. The car just doesn't feel right even after warranty repairs. I sold it two months later at 20k+ mileage. Never again.
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If that bill of maintenance is considered the most reliable, I shudder to think whats his most unreliable car costing him. And that's with 1 whole year of xMCO.

I'm a 208 VTI EP6 owner. Engine and at4 transmission has been ok.
Head gasket rm300.
But the maintenance fluids and oils are nothing near cheap compared to Japanese or local cars.

Absorber + mounts koyak after 1 year of light use (1k to 2k everytim). Possible steering rack koyak after 60k km. If I dare to replace it must be in 2 to 4k region. Fuel pump 1.2k, replaced after plastic joints broke. And yeah those impressively expensive and high wear brake pads at 300 per set.

I christen my white Pug "Taufu".
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Only Sohai Pug Owners will mati2 REFUSE to admit a Pug is the most useless car. Too much ego involved. They dont wanna continue to be the laughing stock so they have to 'tunjuk taring' la. LOL!

You can open 1 million threads and praise how 'good' your useless Pug is la. nobody in the right frame of mind will wanna waste time and money on anything Pug.
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QUOTE(cHaRsIeWpAu^^ @ May 22 2021, 12:19 PM)
should be around those year 2013 to 2015. not so sure.

it’s good to drive when no problem. but the problems usually cannot be solved lol.
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I think the puretech 308 is the ones looking like golf

If it's looking like the fat chubby version like in the first post then it's prince engine
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My ex-3008 also don't know how many a year naiki tow truck .... lost count already.....
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Mine was a record breaking 10 times of towing for 2 months according to Kurnia.
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My 208 gti, best car i've ever driven so far in mai laif
It is actually pretty reliable. Most of Pug's models after the 4T transmission PSA engine have been reiterated with many improvements

Kenot compare with tin kosong Jepunis car. Want reliability might as well drive Wira, best of best
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And my 3008 is a super high mileage car clocking 222648 km as of today. Owned since new from 2012. Average 27-28K km per year.

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QUOTE(enduser @ May 22 2021, 11:48 AM)
https://www.carlist.my/news/my-most-reliabl...hp-82739/82739/

My Most Reliable Car Has Been My 2012 Peugeot 308 1.6 THP

FERDINAND  |  MAY 03, 2021 09:22 AM

Now before you think this article is clickbait - it isn't, I actually really do mean it, my most reliable car over this past year has been my 2012 Peugeot 308 1.6 THP, so indulge me, an owner to regale you with stories of how brilliant the car is to drive, how it's not-so-cheap to maintain but ultimately why I wouldn't sell it for anything else!

So before we embark on the story of the Pug, how did it come to get the title of 'most reliable'? You must own an Alfa Romeo and a Fiat for a Peugeot to be your most reliable daily driver? Actually, no. My two other cars are my 'toys', my BMW E36 - a work in progress and my BMW E30 Sedan, which is also a work in progress. Make no mistake on most days I love my Beemers, they both drive on rails, pull hard and my E30 gives me lots of street cred. But when I want fuss-free, attention-free motoring, I reach for the keys of my Peugeot 308. 

I've driven and maintained my 308 for about two years now. In the space of that two years, I've changed: 

- Head gasket cover - RM1000
- Rear brake pads - RM285
- Front brake pads - RM295
- Wheel speed sensor x 2 - RM510
- Front window wipers - RM180 
- Car mat - RM190
- Air-cond gas refill - RM80  
- Automatic Transmission Fluid - RM350

The above were one-time repairs/ replacements thus far. 

I've serviced the car three times so far and I only use Rowe Fully Synthetic engine oil that sets me back RM285 for 4 litres in addition to a Peugeot oil filter for RM45. 

I've had all four tyres changed, aligned and balanced for RM936. I'm currently running Sportiva 225/45/17. 

Under recall (May 2020) from Nasim Sdn. Bhd, the compressor, condenser, the associated seals, bearings and hoses were changed at the cost of approximately 3.5k. I paid nothing. 

Now putting all these numbers in context is the maintenance of a 2012 Peugeot 308 all that ludicrous really? Is it any more expensive than your BMW E90 or Volkswagen Golf Mk6?

When the Peugeot 308 1.6 FL was first launched here in Malaysia it started from RM102,888 for the VTi and RM121,888 for the Turbo. Today second-hand options can be found from as low as RM15,000. 

Some of the notable features of the turbo variant:

- 156hp, 240Nm of torque
- Six-speed adaptive gearbox with Tiptronic and Sport Mode
- ABS, EBD, EBA, Isofix, 4 airbags, ESP and DSC
- Panoramic sunroof
- Automatic dual-zone air-conditioning with rear blowers

Now before you call this a Peugeot advertisement or me a Peugeot fanboy (I am a little), bear in mind that the plastic and touch surfaces on the 308 are s**tty, flaky and crumble over time. Simply put the interior materials used were just not suitable for our weather and climate. The gear lever literally crumbled in my hands, but fortunately, replacements are inexpensive across Shopee or Lazada. The roof lining sags after a few years (repairs cost about RM400 to glue it back in place),

Below are some of the more common mechanical issues you should look out/ budget for:

- HPFP (high pressure fuel pump) - has been known to be problematic, replacements cost approximately 1.7k
-  Engine oil leak - a replacement package consisting of oil filter housing + turbo lubrication pipe + turbo return hose + labor will set you back approximately RM880
- Coolant leak - thermostat most likely needs replacement, approximately RM800
- Turbo losing pressure - housing replacement at approximately 1.2k
- High carbon build-up - decarbonisation starting from RM488

It's also very important to be informed and to have a community of owners that you can learn from or contribute to, the Peugeot 308 Club on Facebook has been an inexhaustible source of information and guidance. And of course, a reliable mechanic that won't shortchange you. Generally for continental makes, you do need a bit more specialized care, your regular run-of-the-mill bawah pokok mechanic might not have the right diagnostic tools for your Peugeot, Citroen, Renault, BMW, etc. I maintain my car at Bros Auto in Kota Damansara with Kent Wan and Razlan Shah. The approximate prices you see above are courtesy of them. As I have only maintained my Peugeot with them, I cannot speak of other mechanics/ workshops that may be equally proficient. A colleague who owns a Peugeot RCZ has his car serviced at Edar Auto in Cheras and informs me that they are totally adequate for servicing purposes. 

My point here is that when you're owning/ maintaining/ thinking of buying an older continental make, it is important to have a reliable trustworthy mechanic, better if they also happen to be close to where you live (you know in case of breakdowns, etc).

If you've reached this point of the article, then go look back at some of your repair bills, receipts and compare that against the 308. Then benchmark that against its selling price when it was first launched and its resale price today. If that gives you room for pause or makes you consider one, then please test drive a few, refer to the owner's groups for guidance, have it checked thoroughly by a trusted mechanic and then decide if you'd like to have a hot French hatch in your driveway. I've not even touched on the driving dynamics yet but we'll save that for another day. 

By the way, road tax + insurance comes up to about RM1000 a year depending on your cover. I opted for the add-in of Special Perils and Windscreen. My go-to insurance is Allianz for all my vehicles mostly because I have a very trustworthy insurance agent that takes care of all my insurance needs. 

Yes, there is always a chance you could end up with a lemon or citron as the French call it but if you've done your due diligence then you should be well served for years yet. 

If you're a current Peugeot owner and you've not updated your contact details with Berjaya Auto Alliance (the new distributors for Peugeot in Malaysia) then please do so here. 

If you decide to buy a 308 then let me know, we can have a teh-tarik and exchange war stories! 

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Wow, TS list so many repair cost there still called reliable.
Maybe compared to the BMWs then it is cheap la, but compared to any Japs, that is so expensive because Japs hardly breakdown
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What this macha talking about?

First say reliable

Then say engine leak, coolant leak, fuel pump rosak turbo rosak.


So it's reliable or not?
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Mine was a record breaking 10 times of towing for 2 months according to Kurnia.
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Peugeot Malaysia should hand you a trophy for that . . . . biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
As for me, every time when there is a light pop out on the dasdboard screen, I know I need to ready RM1k at least . . .
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Wasted a lot of my money buying this car.

Every 2 weeks need to fork out a lot of money for repairs.

Now I had to downgrade to HRV due to the loses.


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QUOTE(daijoubu @ May 22 2021, 12:27 PM)
My 208 gti, best car i've ever driven so far in mai laif
It is actually pretty reliable. Most of Pug's models after the 4T transmission PSA engine have been reiterated with many improvements

Kenot compare with tin kosong Jepunis car. Want reliability might as well drive Wira, best of best
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Has been. If reliable, it will still be.
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Was considering buying the 308GT, a 2 door, 175hp, 6 speed manual, proper sports seats, back in 2010. Was very impressed during the test drive., Engaging car, handles well, manual gear box always a plus. Naza used to sell it for RM160k, iirc

Ended up settling for a reconditioned UK spec C200 W204. Glad I did, considering how many complaints I've heard due to the infamous "depollution system faulty" issues which appearantly plagued many 308 models in the early 2010s.

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reliable my ass hahhaha, those owners die die defend their peugeot 308 reliable

but end up all go bros autocare for repairs hahahhaha
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I know of 3 friends at least who bought the 308 back then. Always masuk workshop.
Sold it at a lost. One friend even gave up and sold it at a lost and paid extra to clear loan. Used family and gf car for a few months lol.

This article is bullshit
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If you own a VW, BMW and Peugeot, ofcourse your most reliable car is the Peugeot
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My fil in law had one and boy did it go into the workshop more often than any car I ever driven.

Wost of all... Nobody wants it when he tried to sell it
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MCO kenot rentas daerah means cannot fix all these

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Last year, Carsome offered 12K for my car. Even lower than my 2006 smart forfour.

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I think the puretech 308 is the ones looking like golf

If it's looking like the fat chubby version like in the first post then it's prince engine
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those days we need to literally beg people to repair the car, so pathetic.
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Carlist is garbage la
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I can accept all the replaced parts. But CAR MAT and WHEEL SPEED SENSORS? The least i would expect those to fail given that your car is very rare on the road.

Car mat.... what the hell do you even trash those? You grind your shoes with mud and caustic chemicals on them?
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https://www.carlist.my/news/my-most-reliabl...hp-82739/82739/

My Most Reliable Car Has Been My 2012 Peugeot 308 1.6 THP

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Now before you think this article is clickbait - it isn't, I actually really do mean it, my most reliable car over this past year has been my 2012 Peugeot 308 1.6 THP, so indulge me, an owner to regale you with stories of how brilliant the car is to drive, how it's not-so-cheap to maintain but ultimately why I wouldn't sell it for anything else!

So before we embark on the story of the Pug, how did it come to get the title of 'most reliable'? You must own an Alfa Romeo and a Fiat for a Peugeot to be your most reliable daily driver? Actually, no. My two other cars are my 'toys', my BMW E36 - a work in progress and my BMW E30 Sedan, which is also a work in progress. Make no mistake on most days I love my Beemers, they both drive on rails, pull hard and my E30 gives me lots of street cred. But when I want fuss-free, attention-free motoring, I reach for the keys of my Peugeot 308. 

I've driven and maintained my 308 for about two years now. In the space of that two years, I've changed: 

- Head gasket cover - RM1000
- Rear brake pads - RM285
- Front brake pads - RM295
- Wheel speed sensor x 2 - RM510
- Front window wipers - RM180 
- Car mat - RM190
- Air-cond gas refill - RM80  
- Automatic Transmission Fluid - RM350

The above were one-time repairs/ replacements thus far. 

I've serviced the car three times so far and I only use Rowe Fully Synthetic engine oil that sets me back RM285 for 4 litres in addition to a Peugeot oil filter for RM45. 

I've had all four tyres changed, aligned and balanced for RM936. I'm currently running Sportiva 225/45/17. 

Under recall (May 2020) from Nasim Sdn. Bhd, the compressor, condenser, the associated seals, bearings and hoses were changed at the cost of approximately 3.5k. I paid nothing. 

Now putting all these numbers in context is the maintenance of a 2012 Peugeot 308 all that ludicrous really? Is it any more expensive than your BMW E90 or Volkswagen Golf Mk6?

When the Peugeot 308 1.6 FL was first launched here in Malaysia it started from RM102,888 for the VTi and RM121,888 for the Turbo. Today second-hand options can be found from as low as RM15,000. 

Some of the notable features of the turbo variant:

- 156hp, 240Nm of torque
- Six-speed adaptive gearbox with Tiptronic and Sport Mode
- ABS, EBD, EBA, Isofix, 4 airbags, ESP and DSC
- Panoramic sunroof
- Automatic dual-zone air-conditioning with rear blowers

Now before you call this a Peugeot advertisement or me a Peugeot fanboy (I am a little), bear in mind that the plastic and touch surfaces on the 308 are s**tty, flaky and crumble over time. Simply put the interior materials used were just not suitable for our weather and climate. The gear lever literally crumbled in my hands, but fortunately, replacements are inexpensive across Shopee or Lazada. The roof lining sags after a few years (repairs cost about RM400 to glue it back in place),

Below are some of the more common mechanical issues you should look out/ budget for:

- HPFP (high pressure fuel pump) - has been known to be problematic, replacements cost approximately 1.7k
-  Engine oil leak - a replacement package consisting of oil filter housing + turbo lubrication pipe + turbo return hose + labor will set you back approximately RM880
- Coolant leak - thermostat most likely needs replacement, approximately RM800
- Turbo losing pressure - housing replacement at approximately 1.2k
- High carbon build-up - decarbonisation starting from RM488

It's also very important to be informed and to have a community of owners that you can learn from or contribute to, the Peugeot 308 Club on Facebook has been an inexhaustible source of information and guidance. And of course, a reliable mechanic that won't shortchange you. Generally for continental makes, you do need a bit more specialized care, your regular run-of-the-mill bawah pokok mechanic might not have the right diagnostic tools for your Peugeot, Citroen, Renault, BMW, etc. I maintain my car at Bros Auto in Kota Damansara with Kent Wan and Razlan Shah. The approximate prices you see above are courtesy of them. As I have only maintained my Peugeot with them, I cannot speak of other mechanics/ workshops that may be equally proficient. A colleague who owns a Peugeot RCZ has his car serviced at Edar Auto in Cheras and informs me that they are totally adequate for servicing purposes. 

My point here is that when you're owning/ maintaining/ thinking of buying an older continental make, it is important to have a reliable trustworthy mechanic, better if they also happen to be close to where you live (you know in case of breakdowns, etc).

If you've reached this point of the article, then go look back at some of your repair bills, receipts and compare that against the 308. Then benchmark that against its selling price when it was first launched and its resale price today. If that gives you room for pause or makes you consider one, then please test drive a few, refer to the owner's groups for guidance, have it checked thoroughly by a trusted mechanic and then decide if you'd like to have a hot French hatch in your driveway. I've not even touched on the driving dynamics yet but we'll save that for another day. 

By the way, road tax + insurance comes up to about RM1000 a year depending on your cover. I opted for the add-in of Special Perils and Windscreen. My go-to insurance is Allianz for all my vehicles mostly because I have a very trustworthy insurance agent that takes care of all my insurance needs. 

Yes, there is always a chance you could end up with a lemon or citron as the French call it but if you've done your due diligence then you should be well served for years yet. 

If you're a current Peugeot owner and you've not updated your contact details with Berjaya Auto Alliance (the new distributors for Peugeot in Malaysia) then please do so here. 

If you decide to buy a 308 then let me know, we can have a teh-tarik and exchange war stories! 

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Regarding diagnostics, you can get a cheap OBDII sensor on Lazada/Shopee and do your own fault code diagnosis. Used to have to do this with my mechanic, with a laptop and sensor, etc. Now with the OBDII plugged in, I can check all my codes and clear the usual O2 sensor code.

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ May 22 2021, 12:27 PM)
My 208 gti, best car i've ever driven so far in mai laif
It is actually pretty reliable. Most of Pug's models after the 4T transmission PSA engine have been reiterated with many improvements

Kenot compare with tin kosong Jepunis car. Want reliability might as well drive Wira, best of best
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Thanks for another honest owner review.,
Best car forever.
Most ppl just wanna compare with their jepunis kitty which is very wrong.
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QUOTE(Nother @ May 22 2021, 01:11 PM)
Regarding diagnostics, you can get a cheap OBDII sensor on Lazada/Shopee and do your own fault code diagnosis. Used to have to do this with my mechanic, with a laptop and sensor, etc. Now with the OBDII plugged in, I can check all my codes and clear the usual O2 sensor code.
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Cheap Obd2 cant detect Airbag and ABS fault codes
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Just bcuz ur 1 car is reliable doesnt make the other thousands sold reliable.

Go by percentage la
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taiwan new 3008 sell like hot cake

why they not worry on the reliability?
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His car didn't change any ABS sensor, and aircond no problem, consider reliable liao
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QUOTE(Nother @ May 22 2021, 01:11 PM)
Regarding diagnostics, you can get a cheap OBDII sensor on Lazada/Shopee and do your own fault code diagnosis. Used to have to do this with my mechanic, with a laptop and sensor, etc. Now with the OBDII plugged in, I can check all my codes and clear the usual O2 sensor code.
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Clear code is not fix. Lol
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 22 2021, 01:10 PM)
I can accept all the replaced parts. But CAR MAT and WHEEL SPEED SENSORS? The least i would expect those to fail given that your car is very rare on the road.

Car mat.... what the hell do you even trash those? You grind your shoes  with mud and caustic chemicals on them?
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Bawa bertenang bro.
He bought second hsnd la.
So replaced mat with his preferred one
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 22 2021, 12:15 PM)
It can be luck.

Surprisingly my 208 GTi still runs good until today.  Just maintain, pump petrol and drive.
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You know how to drive manual ?


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QUOTE(Henry T @ May 22 2021, 01:06 PM)
That's why I sold mine very quickly to cap the loss. Keeping it longer would mean a higher loss. 😊
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When mine broke down a few years back, I was about to replace it with a spare 4G63-T I have lying around in the office but at last the mechanic gave up. Too much work.

I would imagine it to be a fun project if it really fits. Imagine a 400whp on the wheel with a family looking car even the stock EP6 engine also cannot keep up.
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ May 22 2021, 02:22 PM)
Just bcuz ur 1 car is reliable doesnt make the other thousands sold reliable.

Go by percentage la
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For you sure can bro.

You know how to drive manual ?
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If aircond need to refill confirm got leaking. Pretty sure will cost a lot to fix that.
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QUOTE(MrBlackie33 @ May 22 2021, 01:23 PM)
taiwan new 3008 sell like hot cake

why they not worry on the reliability?
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New 3008 have no relation with the old gen that the thread is talking about.
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eh why remove your bmw avatar
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ May 22 2021, 01:40 PM)
Since when i put BMW avatar? lol
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kek one is kevin one is kelvin

QUOTE(Chekusan2019 @ May 22 2021, 01:42 PM)
New 3008 have no relation with the old gen that the thread is talking about.
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so new gen no more reliability issue huh? time to buy one with that hnggghh design

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Since when i put BMW avatar? lol
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QUOTE(MrBlackie33 @ May 22 2021, 02:46 PM)
kek one is kevin one is kelvin
so new gen no more reliability issue huh? time to buy one with that hnggghh design
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so new gen no more reliability issue huh? time to buy one with that hnggghh design
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 22 2021, 01:29 PM)
For you sure can bro.

You know how to drive manual ?
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Mebbe worth a test drive hiak2 - hard to find stick shifter upgrade nowadays. need to do some kung fu to stay awake while driving hahaha... Have been eyeing Golfs, but just feel they are a bit overkill for me.

The 208 looks much more plausible and just about the right size if parts don't explode around every corner.

How about normal driving fuel consumption since it claims high low end torque? Equal to a smaller sized enjin? Also can't seem to find test drive for this make online..

308 seems a lot heavier for the same context, but unker 2nd purpose for a hatchback is makeshift lorry anytime, which is crucial for my line of work. I assume ride quality should be much improved compared to empty tin cans on wheels

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QUOTE(Dezs @ May 22 2021, 01:52 PM)
Mebbe worth a test drive hiak2 - hard to find stick shifter upgrade nowadays. need to do some kung fu to stay awake while driving hahaha... Have been eyeing Golfs, but just feel they are a bit overkill for me.

The 208 looks much more plausible and just about the right size if parts don't explode around every corner.

How about normal driving fuel consumption since it claims high low end torque? Equal to a smaller sized enjin?  Also can't seem to find test drive for this make online..

308 seems a lot heavier for the same context, but unker 2nd purpose for a hatchback is makeshift lorry anytime, which is crucial for my line of work. I assume ride quality should be much improved compared to empty tin cans on wheels
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FC is not too bad. It will guzzle if I drive fast. Normal driving, the FC is ok. Still bearable.

Don't think nasim or bermas selling this 208gti anymore.


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Looks nice and maybe fun to drive...that's why people tried

My Honda City 10 yrs never been towed at all leh...lol...just regular service and preventive maintenance

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Clear code is not fix. Lol
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Clear O2 sensor code only. Helps with easier diagnosis rather than going to the workshop every time there's a fault.
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Anecdotal af, but my friend's Peugeot park outside his house 5 years liao. That car just does not work.

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 22 2021, 01:55 PM)
FC is not too bad.  It will guzzle if I drive fast.  Normal driving, the FC is ok.  Still bearable.

Don't think nasim or bermas selling this 208gti anymore.
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I saw one 208 GTi ke sana Ke sini, so that must be you.
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I saw one 208 GTi ke sana Ke sini, so that must be you.
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Kek, my saga longer than his 308. Last year change batt ke 3 and 2 times change oil, 1 time cvt oil. Wat he isap
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 22 2021, 12:09 PM)
Wiper expensive is because it used top lock instead of standard U-hook ..Even Plotong now started to use it

and RM180 should be using Bosch Aerotwin (maybe buy from ori shop kot)
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Can just replace the blade/rubber. Been doing it for a couple of years now

QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 22 2021, 12:43 PM)
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Can just replace the blade/rubber. Been doing it for a couple of years now
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If that is your standard of reliability, sure... whatever floats your boat

 

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