QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jul 7 2025, 04:40 PM)
No doubt that QD OLED is great for color volume and is a closer to the colorimetry and intensity to display P3 color space more accurately. Unfortunately, at 77in there are limited choices and the one that does have the QD OLED Panel in Malaysia is not a Sony, which is a pity as they have very good processing.
It isn't just the Color volume and rec 2020 coverage, we had nothing to compare to before but now we see what QD-OLEDs are capable of, it is clear that they are far superior when it comes to near black luminance controls.
We should be reminded of the side effect LG's wOLED, whatever that white little subpixel is lifting is more than just the brightness.
This is what HDTVtest dubbed as " light chrominance overshoot " all the way back in 2018, LG has initially attempted to fix this (and still doing it) by producing a dithering Noise filter that smooth out the pixel transition from black to very dark gray.
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Sadly this has caused some irrepairable dmg to the picture, particularly on old shows and very dark movies ( Look at these star wars 4k remasters and and the game of thrones series ).
Whenever theres a dark scene , it looks very hazy and chaotic to the point it looks like there's a flashing clump of dried up paintjob on your tv screen, no joking it does look that bad.
Given that the wOLEDs have gotten brighter, these artifacts actually look more prominent because the increase of dynamic range and contrast.
Anyone need convincing, dl a couple of ep from GOT season 8 and play it. I've also discovered a lot these in old HK movies, 80s and 90s sitcoms ( seinfeld, friends ,etc etc ) .
Ignorance can be a bliss. If you haven't seen how smooth it looks on the QD OLED, you wouldn't know how terrible it is.
If you ask someone like me, this remains the most significant flaw of wOLED. It is a huge distraction and degrade to PQ than any other criticism with QD OLED / WOLED, not the color volume loss ,not the motion hiccup ,not the botched Dolby Vision mode.
Off-topic as the following discussion will dwell into other brands but since Sony also has its own QD OLED lineup , the nature of QD OLED screens are the same.
I get the impression that whenever someone brought up the discussion of matte coating we are immediately reminded of the matte screen from PC monitors.
The Matte screen used by the new S95F is
not the same.
It has a unique micro-etching patterns / texture ( feels very premium I might add ), which is used to diffuse direct reflection with extreme precision instead of just slapping them on top of the screen like butter on bread.
A quick comparison with PC monitor with matte coating will reveal how superior it is at suppresing glare while while also maintaining perceived colors under strong ambient lights.
It is definitely one of the best coating I've ever seen on screens ( and I've seen thousands of them by now ) .
While it is still prone to reduced contrast like other matte screens , it isn't much of an issue in a dim and dark room as there shouldn't be any direct reflection on the screen.
Of course if you are not unhappy with the matte screen , you can always get a S90 instead and mod it into the S95 mode. You actually get a better deal out of this and 4 full HDMI 2.1 ports.
(Unlike LG , Samsung is still pretty generous with their QD OLED models as they all share the same screens. )
Yes , the motion hiccups on Samsung's QD OLEDs , It is annoying for sure but not unbearable for me atleast. It is still quite random and seem to happen more frequently on slow motion replay and transition from very dark to very bright scenes. It has been there for several generation so maybe Samsung doesnt intend to fix it as some viewers wouldn't notice that <1sec micro stutter. Sony's own A95L has its own quirks as well, Dolby Vision is unwatchable on the TV it raises the black floor , counterproductive to the intent of " true blacks ". Which is also why HDTVtest recommends viewers to watch movies in HDR10 instead.
In terms of upscaling , these few brands are very close now but Sony remains the lead here especially in gradient smoothing. This is the one area Sony and Panasonic typically excel in. Again the Quantum Dots based OLEDs continues to have an edge here as it doesn't rely on white subpixel, contributing to a finer controls from black to gray.
At this point I am not sure where Panasonic stands in the local market. I have had a chat with one of the distributors, he mentioned that the sales of their OLEDs have basically collapsed and they might've moved less than 100 units of OLED TV last year. Panasonic is now re-focusing their effort into the USA market but we aren't getting any of those flashy models like z95A . A shame because I have always love how natural their display looks.
This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 9 2025, 10:05 AM