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post May 17 2021, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ May 17 2021, 05:08 PM)
The core idea is the tank is used as feed tank. Feed tank must not run dry. If got water then it is safe to run pump.

Not used as filler tank so we cannot use fill control type for aquarium that stops when at Hi level.
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post May 17 2021, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ May 17 2021, 07:36 PM)
Yup, hence to prevent feed tank pump from running dry, my suggestion was just use a Lo level sensor to operate contactor to power pump (allow pump to operate) ONLY if there is water beyond a Lo level at feed tank. So he dont need to risk going out in the darkness (snakes or bugs) at night just to check the level manually. If there is enough water inside the feed tank then the contactor will be able to supply power to his pump (or smart switch if he wants to on/off the pump manually on demand).

Hi/overflow of the feed tank no need to bother as that is already automated by the float.
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What kind do you suggest?

Alternatively, if anyone knows where I can find a high capacity low profile tank, that will work too.

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mini orchard
post May 18 2021, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ May 17 2021, 10:22 PM)
My house area water pressure from main is slow. Very slow. Weekday from 10 am - 10 pm no water. Hence there is a table next to the main pipe for catchments from 10 pm onwards. There is another tank at back of the house. Between the first and second tank, there is a pump I cannot let the pump run all the time as sometimes the water from the front tank gets empty. So I need a mechanism to cure off water when it is empty
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Is this the type you are searching...

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post May 18 2021, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ May 17 2021, 10:22 PM)
My house area water pressure from main is slow. Very slow. Weekday from 10 am - 10 pm no water. Hence there is a table next to the main pipe for catchments from 10 pm onwards. There is another tank at back of the house. Between the first and second tank, there is a pump I cannot let the pump run all the time as sometimes the water from the front tank gets empty. So I need a mechanism to cure off water when it is empty
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I m still confuse. From your explain, what I understand is

1) the 1st tank is in front of the house and same level as 2nd tank
2) The pump is for drawing the water from the 1st tank to the 2nd tank
3) The main water is only connected to the 1st tank

Is that correct?

The question is

1) the 1st tank got any connection to others' usage? Like to toilet etc.
2) the 2nd tank got any connection to others' usage? Like to toilet, kitchen etc.
3) Why need a pump between 2 tank that is in front and back with the same level?


Is this correct?

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post May 18 2021, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ May 17 2021, 10:24 PM)
What kind do you suggest?

Alternatively, if anyone knows where I can find a high capacity low profile tank, that will work too.
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What is the capacity Liter you want?

What is the tank capacity you're using now?
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ May 18 2021, 07:32 AM)
Is this the type you are searching...

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 18 2021, 08:36 AM)
I m still confuse. From your explain, what I understand is

1) the 1st tank is in front of the house and same level as 2nd tank
2) The pump is for drawing the water from the 1st tank to the 2nd tank
3) The main water is only connected to the 1st tank

Is that correct?

The question is

1) the 1st tank got any connection to others' usage? Like to toilet etc.
2) the 2nd tank got any connection to others' usage? Like to toilet, kitchen etc.
3) Why need a pump between 2 tank that is in front and back with the same level?
Is this correct?

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Correct but my setup, the water for mains has to travel like 3 m and climb 1.2m to the first tank. Even this one also tak larat-shows how poor the water pressure is here.

For now settled on a simpler solution. Put smaller tank 100 gal below main water level, and wait. Since my last tank on roof use float valve only push 50 gallon per time, this should give enough time for the small tank next to the mains to recover the water sent. Will also settle the problem of sensor. As all other tanks use pressure sensor based on the float sensor on the roof tank.


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post May 19 2021, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ May 18 2021, 10:32 AM)
yes but on hold for the moment.
Correct but my setup, the water for mains has to travel like 3 m and climb 1.2m to the first tank. Even this one also tak larat-shows how poor the water pressure is here.

For now settled on a simpler solution. Put smaller tank 100 gal below main water level, and wait. Since my last tank on roof use float valve only push 50 gallon per time, this should give enough time for the small tank next to the mains to recover the water sent. Will also settle the problem of sensor. As all other tanks use pressure sensor based on the float sensor on the roof tank.
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If the pic is correct, and both tank at the same ground level, why need a pump ?

The solution is as simple as this.

user posted image

Both tank will fill up at the same time. The pump is only pump water into the house. Don't need gadget or whatsoever thing to monitor.

The only way you can do for the low pressure is to complain to the Syabas if from Selangor. "the water for mains has to travel like 3 m and climb 1.2m to the first tank." The water already travel more than 3m before reach your house.


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post May 19 2021, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 19 2021, 09:06 AM)
If the pic is correct, and both tank at the same ground level, why need a pump ?

The solution is as simple as this.

user posted image

Both tank will fill up at the same time. The pump is only pump water into the house. Don't need gadget or whatsoever thing to monitor.

The only way you can do for the low pressure is to complain to the Syabas if from Selangor.  "the water for mains has to travel like 3 m and climb 1.2m to the first tank." The water already travel more than 3m before reach your house.
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I think you misread his post.

1st tank is near the main with pump to 2nd tank.

2nd tank is on roof ...supply to kitchen and bathroom.

Usage faster than refill from main, hence need a controller to stop pump when water level is low. Certain hours of the day, there is no supply from main to refill tank 1.

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post May 19 2021, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 19 2021, 09:06 AM)
If the pic is correct, and both tank at the same ground level, why need a pump ?

The solution is as simple as this.

user posted image

Both tank will fill up at the same time. The pump is only pump water into the house. Don't need gadget or whatsoever thing to monitor.

The only way you can do for the low pressure is to complain to the Syabas if from Selangor.  "the water for mains has to travel like 3 m and climb 1.2m to the first tank." The water already travel more than 3m before reach your house.
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ May 19 2021, 09:21 AM)
I think you misread his post.

1st tank is near the main with pump to 2nd tank.

2nd tank is on roof ...supply to kitchen and bathroom.

Usage faster than refill from main, hence need a controller to stop pump when water level is low. Certain hours of the day, there is no supply from main to refill tank 1.
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Water pressure is poor at my area. The 1st pic is now the solution. Put a new tank lower than 2 feet (meter main water), let water flow into it. Then pump to existing tank (about 3m away). I don't want to pull water with a pump directly from the meter because it will result in expensive water bill. Like from RM20 to 80 (and that is only pulling 2 weeks at night for about 2 hours). I know people who pull constantly that get RM300+ in water bills. In severe cases when there is a water cut/ high community usuage of water, then water will not flow out at all. If not covid-19 time, usually if school holiday/any holiday in general, lots of people will come here and water will be scarce.

Thanks all again for the reply. Thread close for now.

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