WFH lunchbreak.

You do you. FALD hasn't been this cheap. No feature that really makes a difference is. But that's the nature of any top-end product lineup.

Between the Philips 58PUT6604 and the Hisense 55A7400F, there is a price difference of around RM200. Though it is 3" smaller than the Philips, I think the Hisense is the way to go. It has Android, which means you can easily add the US apps of HBO Max, Hulu, Starz and Disney+ and use a VPN app on it. Your Firestick can be used when you travel.

Just note that the A7400F apparently has a VIDAA version of the same name. So don't buy the wrong version.

In as much as Quantum TV contributes to the YouTube/online discussion about TV techs, the fact that he actively insults and bullies the other TV reviewers doesn't sit well with me. He reported Joelster, who said he was a clown, for using a STILL picture of him in his Deadpool costume. He may be honest but he is not humble.

So far, the U series hasn't arrived in Europe yet. Or maybe the EU reviewers are still in lockdown. I watched one guy from Spain do a U7G unboxing but no review yet. So the U series is still relatively new.

Here is the comparison between the U8G, U8G Australia and U8GQ Europe on DisplaySpecifications.com. As you can see, they don't know that SEA is getting something a little different. More on that in a bit...

Where did you see this? I still haven't seen them listed on Shopee or Lazada.

It is unfortunately more expensive. And considering they are using VIDAA which they don't have to pay license fee for, I don't know why they are more expensive than the Android version.

So do I. At least once we know if and when the U8G will be announced, and its price, the market can make a decision. I still think they just want to clear their U800QF stock.

Anyway, this is what I found yesterday.





This is the 2021 lineup from Hisense Thailand. Still VIDAA. Prices have yet to be announced. Come on Hisense Malaysia! That's the products we want. That's the spec details that we want to be laid out on the website.

I do admit that Malaysia's product offering is better than Hisense Indonesia. Singapore is apparently too posh to buy Hisense. There is no Hisense Singapore.

Plus Dolby Atmos and Imax Enhanced support, as well as voice control. Apparently it's VIDAA Voice.

Interesting. The price for the 8K TV is way over the price of their laser projector set, which comes with an ALR screen.

If that's their pricing structure, Hisense Malaysia has put themselves in the same league as LG, Panasonic, Samsung and Sony but with nothing to back it up.

Their brand is about value for money. Pricing the U series like that is overestimating their perceived value, especially when neither of the Malaysian versions of the U7G and the U8G have the same specs as the US versions. Even the U900KF is more than the Australian version at RM22,300.

They are missing the chance in capturing the market share, the mind share and establishing themselves here. Seems like everybody in the management teams of Hisense, TCL and Mi felt overconfident in 2021. Or is it because the same big companies that distributes all of our TVs are owned by the same small group of people (therefore avoiding market cannibalization)?

Here's the pricing structure for the U series that Hisense Malaysia should have made that would benefit them and consumers.
U8G 65" - MSRP US is $1300. Malaysia's price should be RM5,500-6,000.
U7G 65" - MSRP US is $1000. About RM4,200-4,500.
U6G 65" - MSRP US is $750. About RM3,200-3,500.
Keep the specs the same AND make it Android, not VIDAA. We're already paying more. At these prices and with all the features, they would run out quickly every month.

I'm not holding my breath on that.

Clearly?

So you have communicated with Hisense Malaysia/HQ and asked them about the actual specs of the U7G for Malaysia? And gotten responses from them? And kept it a secret?

I don't know why Hisense Malaysia's marketing is really bad at marketing. But as of today, the Android version of the A6500G is the same as the A7400F, based on their website. Android 9.0 Pie. Click on the Specs tab.

You can infer from Hisense Thailand about the U7G versions. Here's their U7G version. While it does confirm a 60Hz panel and 700 nits brightness, they get HDMI 2.1.

As it is right now, it's better to wait until July when the U7G arrives in stores. Hisense Malaysia's marketing department is a mess. I don't know if Hisense Thailand is any better but at least they have the updated version of the U800QF.

While we won't get the US version of the U8G, RTings.com has given it a solid 8.4 in its review.

Okay, found this about the U7G. It's on their news and promo page.


I suggest wait until it arrives in stores once the MCO is over (in September?) and then compare it with the U800QF. It's not that you can pre-order now anyways. I haven't seen the item on Shopee, SenQ or Harvey Norman.

Meanwhile Hisense Thailand's UEFA 2021 promo is definitely highlighting the U8G. This video is in English.
It's about the U7G at the beginning and a fridge in the middle. It might seem that the U8G is going to come in Q3/4 2021 in Thailand.

This post has been edited by writesimply: Jun 18 2021, 02:34 PM

Nobody but Hisense Malaysia has any idea. And they're not going to tell because a) they need to push the U800QF stock out of the warehouse and b) they need to push the U900KF as their high-end model, and not the U8G. The U8G is the high-end model in Thailand and Hisense Thailand isn't selling the U900KF.

In other news, RTings.com has finally released their review of the North American U8G on Youtube. It'll probably be until Q4 before we see Hisense EU/Australia/Thailand releases the U8G international version.

Watch it only if you want to be depressed why this version is not going to be available for us ever.

Vincent Teo reviewed the UK version of the U8G. The title tells you what he thinks.



The U8G and U8GQ are completely different TVs. It's unlikely that the UK/European Youtubers will review the U7GQ because they have the U8GQ.

The safe bet is to look at the manufacturing details. The North America U series are manufactured in Mexico. The one Vincent reviewed was manufactured in China. Hisense has a TV manufacturing plant in Czech Republic but that seems to be a small one.

Have to wait until the MCO is over before we can go to the stores and look at TVs again. But if you're desperate, the best Hisense TV for now seems to be the U800QF.

Just note that Micro Dimming is not the same as Full Array Local Dimming.

If that fits your budget, it's the size you want and it has the features that you want, then that's the right one. But I would wait until you can get to the store and see one in person. Unless you really can't wait.



On separate news, Hisense Malaysia has created a form on Google Docs for people to pre-order the U7G.



Here is the link.
RM4,600 for the 65" with a RM200 TnG reload. RM3,400 for the 55" with a RM100 TnG reload. TnG on first-come, first-served basiss. Pre-order period is July 1 to 15. TV is coming after that, I guess.

If this bit of news is not confusing...

A Thai YouTube channel has had a review sample of the Thai U8G. The review is in Thai.


The takeaway of the video is : everything on Hisense Thailand's website about the U8G is true.
- 120 Hz VA panel (probably 8-bit + FRC)
- Precision Colour, Wide Colour Gamut via Quantum Dot
- 180 dimming zones for 65"
- Measured peak brightness at 1,132 nits and 92.59% DCI-P3 color space
- HDR 10+ and Dolby Vision
- JBL speakers
- 4 HDMI 2.1 ports at 60 Hz
- Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos
- DTS Studio Sound ™
- VIDAA with voice activation (yet to be activated)

MSRP for the 65" is ฿45,990 or RM5,962.

So why is this confusing?

1) The MSRP for Malaysia's 65" U7G is about RM6,000. Hisense Malaysia is really shortchanging us. And since this sample was reviewed recently, that means this model is already in production.

2) The Thai U7G unit is made in PRC - China. The review sample for the U8GQ that Vincent Teo received was also made in China. That TV uses an ADS screen, a variant of IPS. So that means EU is getting a lower specced version than Thailand.

US U8G > Thai U8G > UK U8GQ

Regarding the HDMI 2.1 ports and 60 Hz, the reviewer showed gaming Call of Duty at 1080p/120Hz. Input lag at 35ms in Game mode.

If somebody who understands Thai can watch the video above, let us know if I missed anything.

I don't work for or which Hisense, or any CE manufacturer so I don't know what to say to that. I do think the marketing person handling the pre-orders should at least check their Google survey and e-mail you a confirmation. Since the delivery is supposed to be in two weeks, they should send you something.

But it is MCO time. Time and space work differently.

I would say if they don't send you anything - email or actual product - by end of July, you should cancel and get what you want is available.

You can get the U800QF if you want a FALD and Quantum Dot TV. The limitations are similar to the U7G, which are no eARC/HDMI 2.1 and no Android OS. The Sony X90H if you can find it, is RM1000 more.

I'm wondering if somebody would sell a Thai U8G on Shopee.

I read that you already bought the Philips. So this is all moot now. Congrats!

The Hisense 65" U800QF is their 2020 model at about RM4,700. The Sony 65" X90H is their 2020 model at about RM5,700 if you can find it.

There are pros and cons in everything.

Hisense or any CEs that doesn't update every quarter or year could mean that they are lazy or that the product is low-end enough that doesn't warrant an update. Or what it is doing, it is doing well enough and there's no need to update.

TCL updating quarterly means they are actively listening to their customers and reacting. But it can also be seen as they are only fixing at things that are being pointed at. Should they instead be looking at and fixing everything in one firmware and leaving it be for six months or a year?



In other news, apparently Hisense has extended the pre-order date of the U7G until 31st of July "due to popular demand". Usually when I read these kinds of sentences, it's due to unpopular demand. These days with YouTube and social media, it's easy to see what is being talked about anyway.

Still, marketing efforts notwithstanding, it doesn't mean that U7G is not a good TV. It just means that people don't want to buy something sight unseen. Maybe marketing have made plans for the TV to be reviewed but the MCO has screwed up their plans.

In other other news, the official Hisense store on Shopee has removed the U800QF model. But on Lazada, it's still there.

So LCDTVThailand has reviewed the 55" U7G. The review of course is in Thai.



The takeaway of the video is :
- Made in China.
- 60 Hz VA panel (probably 8-bit + FRC)
- Anti-glare screen
- Wide Colour Gamut via Quantum Dot
- 90 dimming zones for 65". 72 for 55"
- Measured peak brightness at 685 nits (lower than the advertised 700) and 94% DCI-P3 color space (lower than advertised 100%)
- HDR 10+ and Dolby Vision/Atmos
- Dolby Vision Bright, Dark and Custom.
- 4 HDMI 2.0 ports at 60 Hz. HDMI 2 Port is eARC. Website says HDMI 2.1. It could be that all the ports are 2.1 though.
- 2 USB Ports. One USB 3.
- VIDAA 5
- Game at 4K 60Hz or 1080p at 120Hz. Input lag at 13 ms.

MSRP for the 65" is ฿32,990 or RM4,244.

It's infuriating that Hisense Malaysia put the MSRP of U7G at RM6,000 and then "discounted" the pre-order price to RM4,600. It's a sales ploy.

Anyway, at least we know the confirmed specs. But then I thought, did LCDTVThailand review the U800QF, Hisense's top 2020 model?



The takeaway of the video is :
- Certified Ultra HD Premium
- Made in China.
- 60 Hz VA panel (probably 8-bit + FRC)
- Wide Colour Gamut via Quantum Dot
- 240 dimming zones for 65".
- Measured peak brightness at 1,231 nits (understating the advertised 1000+) and 97% DCI-P3 color space.
- Dolby Vision/Atmos
- JBL speakers
- 4 HDMI 2.0 ports at 60 Hz. HDMI 1 port is ARC.
- 2 USB 2.0 ports.
- VIDAA 4
- Game at 4K 60Hz. Input lag at 15 ms.

MSRP for the 65" is ฿45,990 or RM5,917. This seems to be their MSRP for their top tier level.

The video mentions you need to enable Dolby Atmos to pass it through via ARC. I've tested this model at Harvey Norman before. With Netflix, it does show Dolby Vision/Atmos logo. A firmware update is what happened. Dolby Atmos via Dolby Digital Plus for streaming works with ARC. Dolby Atmos via TrueHD would not work.


As far as I can tell, U8G > U800QF > U7G for these reasons:
1) Only the U8G uses 120Hz panel.
2) Peak brightness is over 1,000 nits for both U8G and U800QF. U7G only emits 685 nits.
3) eARC doesn't matter as much if your source of Dolby Atmos is from streaming services. Dolby Atmos from streaming uses Dolby Digital Plus which can work with ARC.
4) People who want to game at 4K 120Hz better get the U8G and have a beefy PCs because there are limited console games that support that right now.

So until Hisense launches the U8G, for Malaysian users who will use their TVs for movies more than for gaming, the choice is actually last year's U800QF.

The only downside to these Hisense models is the fact that they use VIDAA and not Android. Hisense is not that fast as updating their app availability. If Hisense VIDAA owners see that they've added Disney+ Hotstar, please let us know here. So owning them and wanting Disney+ Hotstar would require getting a Netflix certified 4K Android box, which would be about RM240 and up. If you want Android and Dolby TrueHD and DTS HDMA, you need a HTPC or NVidia's Shield basic at RM700.

The 65" U800QF is very good. Full array local dimming and Quantum Dot VA screen. You can check the specs here. It is also the only FALD model from them that you can buy right now from other online sellers other than Hisense.

The main drawback is the VIDAA OS. Smaller issues are HDMI 2.0 ARC only and 60Hz panel.

If you want Disney+ Hotstar or other Android apps, you need a Netflix-certified Android box. And if you want lossless audio on top of that, you need an NVidia Shield/Shield Pro or a HTPC.

The U7G, U900KF and other 2021 model I assume are delayed coming to the market because of the MCO.

What needed tuning? Color?

Well that's the nature of VA panels. Off axis, it looks faded.

If you want a wider viewing angle with an LCD TV, you'd want an IPS panel. But then you won't get the contrast and inky blacks.

If you go with OLED, you get the inky blacks and the contrast but you won't get the 1000 nits brightness. And spend a lot more money.

Where'd you get it and how much was it?

I'm waiting until the stores are open to compare this with the U7G. And hoping that Hisense Malaysia brings in the U8G.

Not an owner so I can't really help you with the specifics.

1) What about it that's not working though? No sound at all?

On some TVs, in the Audio settings, you need to tell it to send audio via optical. When you do that, you will not get sound from the TV speakers. On my old LG TV, there's three settings - TV speakers, optical out and then another optical out - I forgot the name of the settings. Only one of the two optical settings output proper 5.1 passthrough. The other would only do so in stereo.

By the way, have you tried the optical input on your Edifier with a CD/DVD/Playstation 3/4?

2) There are many BT standards before we got BT to 5.0. Even then, not all implementations are the same. The bad ones show lag. Unless there is some BT settings on the TV, I'm afraid you're out of luck there.


Wow. A display set of the U800QF. That usually means they are getting ready to bring in the new models. Which means the U7G is on the way. While I wouldn't buy a display set TV, that's a pretty good deal especially since you have that warranty.

The thing that brings me back to the U800QF - because Malaysia is not gettting the U8G - instead of the U7G is the peak brightness. The U7G measured about 685 nits, according to the Thai review. The U800QF had 1,235 nits according to the same review. For HDR and Dolby Vision content, that is important.



There are pros and cons in everything. For its price, size and feature set, it still can't be beat. But I still want the U8G.

By the way, did Hisense update VIDAA and add Disney+ Hotstar?

It doesn't have to be a Playstation. It can be a CD or DVD player. The optical standard would be the same.

Stuttering could mean either the TV's BT antenna is not transmitting consistent signal or something about the RAM or CPU that's broken. If you have a BT head/earphones, you can try connecting them to the TV. See if the stuttering is there. If it is still there, then it's the TV.

Another day, another "what the **** is Hisense Malaysia doing?" Or not doing.

So the tired, monthly day-month sale is coming to online shops in Malaysia. For 8.8, Hisense Malaysia is doing nothing. Hisense Thailand, on Shopee, is having an 8.8 sale. Like a real sale.



The newly launched 65" U7G is going for ฿25,290 or RM3,247.



The newly launched 65" U8G is going for ฿33,690 or RM4,325. EDIT: Changed U7G to U8G here.

Hisense Thailand is putting Hisense Malaysia to shame.

Anybody knows anybody who lives near the Malaysian-Thailand border?

This post has been edited by writesimply: Aug 6 2021, 03:24 PM

UBuy is a freight forwarding company. They don't have a store or a presence in Malaysia. Also for RM11,000 that they charge, I could just buy an OLED here.

The U8G costs $1,250. Even if UBuy is located in California, where the sales tax is 7.25, that's $1,340 which is RM5,652. FedEx is going to charge them $1000 to ship it to Malaysia?

It is just unfortunate that Thais can buy a pretty good version of the U8G for a very good price (right now) and we cannot.

The X80s doesn't have local dimming. The 90s have local dimming. 65" X90J costs RM7,000. Both models are Android based.

It depends on your requirements - space, budget, features. The Hisense U8G and U800QF are the best 65" model for the features at RM5,000 price level - full array local dimming, 1000+ nits brightness, Quantum Dot with wide color gamut, VA panel and Dolby Vision. You do need to fork out RM220-RM700 for an Android player - Tivo 4K or NVidia Shield - for all the Android features you want.

If Hisense Malaysia had competitively priced the U7G and the U8G, these TVs would be a big hit. If the models could be changed to Android, it would be a really big hit.

I've compared how Hisense Thai do their marketing on Facebook vs how Hisense Malaysia is doing theirs. Clearly they know how to sell while the Malaysian one is slowly opening a Hisense Museum.

To frustratingly reiterate my point, Hisense Thailand has an 8.8 sale of RM3,247 for the 65" U7G and RM4,325 for the 65" U8G. Feature for feature, you can't beat that price.

This post has been edited by writesimply: Aug 6 2021, 03:25 PM

Well to be fair to Hisense Malaysia on this particular point, the blame for VIDAA is solely on Hisense HQ. North American models come with Android. They should have made the 2021 U series all Android worldwide.

If 65" is too big, then you've locked down one requirement.

The next is the budget and features. Unless you can import the 55" U8G, you won't be getting 1000+ nits brightness from I think most TVs out there at that price point. So then you're working with 700-900 nit brightness TVs.

Sony X90J: Android. FALD. Dolby Vision. VA Panel. 120 Hz panel.
Sony X80J: Android. Dolby Vision. ADS IPS Panel. 60 Hz panel.
Hisense U7G: FALD. Quantum Dot. Dolby Vision. Va Panel. 120 Hz panel.

Once you choose what features that's important, you'll find your TV. Hopefully it'll fit your budget.