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post Feb 12 2022, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Feb 12 2022, 08:18 PM)
err.. i dont have latest pikes, but my pikes and aceoffix is 3x3 setup

as for my pikes
53t with 13/15/19

my aceoffix
52t with 12/14/17

as u can see, both top speed nearly the same. but my pikes setup towards more on touring (mudguard), so i reserved 19t for big hilly route.

oh ya, tested my pikes on penang round island. amazingly, its enough (i also didnt use 15t, only 13t with lightest gearhub combo) but not tested on the new highest bridge.

in addition, last time my pikes setup is 52t wih 12/17. just nice for all terrain, but i hate those big gap. thats why i mod mine to 3x3 setup. for me close ratio on top speed is better + talian hayat cog
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52T 12/14/17 more similar to 56T 13/15/19

this is what i want to highlight, instead of increasing chainring size, it's better to have 1 tooth smaller cog.

bigger chainring means need longer chain too.

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52t with 13/19 can be configured as 48t with 12/18

Pikes fold looks best when using 44-48t chainring where the chainring won't exceed the hinge after folded. (picture is 46t)

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post Feb 21 2022, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Feb 21 2022, 02:21 PM)
by the way is Tern link B7 folding bike any good? what about the DAHON VYBE D7? It fits my budget. i am looking at folding bikes not below 1k and not above 2k  sweat.gif

looking at dahon and tern mainly
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1-2k budget better get fnhon.

tern and dahon in this budget range u need to upgrade wheelset and groupset later.

just go to facebook marketplace and search "fnhon"

happy hunting.

if die die want dahon, check if any seller selling dahon k-one around 2k

if die die want dahon vybe d7, then buy it and hunt for used rim, rd, and shifter and upgrade to 9 or 11 speed.

Polygon Urbano 3 could be another option but i still don't recommend disc brake folding bike for recreational purpose. possible disc rub issue might drive u crazy.

https://www.rodalink.com/my/polygon-urbano-...-502724001.html

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post Feb 21 2022, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Feb 21 2022, 04:18 PM)
hmm thank you for the advice. But i keep seeing advises about gears and it seems like having more gear speed the better? I am not taking the bike for up hill or mud road or rough terrain. Just leisure riding to keep fit. I need foldable due to storage concerns. I living in a condo hence limited space. Big, professional, or non foldable types are out for me. Will I need more gears than the 7 speed that the dahon n tern are offering?  smile.gif

Pardon me. I used to ride my grandma's old bicycles (no gears but with a bell and a basket infront  tongue.gif  type) hence I am new to modern bikes with so many gears.   laugh.gif  smile.gif
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the reason i highlight on gear was 7 speed wheelset mostly run on freewheel mechanism and 9 speed wheelset mostly run on freehub mechanism.

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with freehub mechanism you can replace the cassette so that you could configure your liking gear ratio. you hardly could do that on freewheel mechanism.
freewheel also always associated with "cheap" "not smooth" "heavy"

if you need compact folding size…have a look on dahon 16" or even 14" folding bike.

if storage space concern is a issue, buy a 3x3 Pikes will be a better choice as it could blend into condo space by storing it in a ikea kallax shelf. consider the extra cost for aesthetic purpose and to avoid wife nagging laugh.gif
https://shopee.com.my/product/50706794/9012...39-1645438075.9


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if don't want store into shelf, and don't mind 3 gear, oyama s500 could blend into condo space too.
https://shopee.com.my/product/44864258/1491...39-1645436833.9

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if u are going to store the bike in open space, here's the size comparison of dahon and tern 20" vs 16" trifold

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post Feb 21 2022, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Feb 21 2022, 07:56 PM)
oh wow. thank you very much for the info plus photos. really appreciate it  thumbup.gif  smile.gif

the trifold ones are really great, can save so much space. but i wish to ask, where can i find those 16 inch dahon/tern? so far the ones i saw at the shops are all 20 inch. also will riding one 16 inch wheels be tougher than 20 inch? i am around 78kg and 1.75m. will the 16 inch be too small for me?  smile.gif

the pikes and oyama while looks very very nice + 9 speed is abit out of my budget  sad.gif
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tern dont have 16 inch.
dahon k3 plus
dahon mu sl d9

dahon 16 inch is smaller than pikes 16 inch (you can assume the pikes as 17.8 inch)

1.75m ok for 16" Pikes with M riser bar.
if want more relax and upright riding position then no choice got to be 20", but dahon 16" with adjustable headpost is enough for 1.75m height.

remember when selecting wheel size, always follow the ETRTO size (the exact rim diameter not including tyre)

16 inch have 305 and 349
20 inch have 406 and 451

size big difference yo even both of them being called as 16 inch and 20 inch respectively.

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post Feb 21 2022, 08:49 PM

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don't forget helmet too.

i recommend this as starter option because not all helmet are asian fit. get this 1st before move to more expensive helmet.

https://shopee.com.my/product/243767952/314...39-1645447616.9


ride safe guys.
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post Feb 22 2022, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Feb 21 2022, 11:58 PM)
ok so i have decided on a higher speed folding bike. you recommended fnhom 16 inch wheels. but i have looked around and it seems like fnhom bikes are sold part by part?
where can i get a fully built fnhom bike? i am really new to the world of bikes hence i have no idea on how to source nor choose the parts  sweat.gif
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go contact him, he is a trusted fnhon seller for long time already.

https://m.facebook.com/pay.guan

you can always hunt for a used bike in facebook marketplace.
many ppl bought during mco and now no longer interested to ride since already can pergi sini pergi sana, then they sell their bike at a cheaper price with still very nice condition. for 20" bike, i think quite easy to look for fnhon blast model. for 16" bike, i think mostly are fnhon gust, i would prefer fnhon zephyr more than gust due to the rear brake position.
better take non-disc brake version for easier maintenance.

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post Feb 22 2022, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(engseng @ Feb 22 2022, 01:50 PM)
What is the disc rub issue?
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post Feb 24 2022, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Feb 24 2022, 11:45 AM)
Newbie here. Used to ride RB with my friends long long time ago, I don't own any bikes with me anymore. Nowadays usually just rent those linkbike in Penang RM3/day, it is a ok bike to ride around, nothing hard core, but these bikes are getting a lot of abuse and it seems like the vendor aren't maintaining it properly.

Last month we won a folding bike in a lucky draw. Even before I rode it, I knew it is some cheap brand and it proves me right after riding it around my taman. I had to tighten and adjust all the bolts and nuts. I let my gf ride it since she is much lighter than I do, but she also mentioned that the bike is so wobbly and unsafe. So I sold it off soon after. The fb is Treking and only cost around RM350.
The best thing about it is being so portable that if fits in our car and enables us to drive to our desired destination to start our riding journey.

I've been reading and watching some youtube videoes on fb, and had set my own budget of below RM1.5k as a starting point (so that I can upgrade to a better fb and appreciate it in the future)
I would love to get a second hand fb if that is possible. My question is, is it a good idea to get a 2nd hand fb as I don't see many people talking about 2nd hand fb, and if so, what are the best options within RM1.5k and what to look out for. TIA
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penang area go find them

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...ource=permalink

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post Feb 27 2022, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Rizrus @ Feb 27 2022, 01:59 PM)
Hi guys, newbie in folding bike. (1 months only)
Currently i am using Raleigh Calypso Aloy 7 gears (shimano) all standard without any modification.
I noticed that during cruising (flat surface) high gear only get around 25km/h.  My level la... am not pro. Haha
Am considering to upgrade to Dahon Visc D18 or P20 soon. (because of its look and spec).

My question is.. how fast (kmh) can i expect to get with Dahon VISC? no modification.
Hope sifus here can help me because am highly considering that bike,
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if your Raleigh is 48T chainring with 14T cog, at 85rpm u can hit 26km/h

if Dahon Visc D18 with 53T chainring with 11T cog, at 85rpm u can hit 36km/h
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post Mar 1 2022, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Feb 28 2022, 08:21 PM)
mtb usually maintain 30kmh or max 35kmh (strong leng) on the road. they are not too fast compare to roadbike.

if u on tight budget, try adopt freewheel cog that got 11t. its hard to find, but its a cheaper option.

changing to a new bike like dahon visc also giving u a new feel. but remember, its still wont feed ur next hunger for speed enough laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Rizrus @ Feb 28 2022, 10:09 PM)
Ya lor newbie in cycling.. am runner just accidentally bought folding bike Raleigh Calypso. 1-Feb.
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like bro azam mentioned, you could buy this 7s 11-28T freewheel and replace your current 14-28T can increase top speed. plug and play no mod needed. i did this before.
https://shopee.com.my/product/374829199/853...39-1646064448.9

you only need long removal tool
https://shopee.com.my/product/116452231/218...39-1646064847.9

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post Mar 8 2022, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Mar 8 2022, 03:16 PM)
user posted image

Hi guys, just wondering if this is a good buy. Seller claim this is custom bike, 8 speed
"Fhhon dia custom bos.. Body asing, semua brg asing"
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go find 1 with at least 9 speed and hollow crankset
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post Mar 8 2022, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Rizrus @ Mar 8 2022, 09:18 PM)
Hi guys.. anyone can recommend trusted shop or online shop (malaysia-worldwide) able to ship to Malaysia that carry Dahon brand?

I contacted Dahon Malaysia that confirm they're not bring VISC model for 2022 lineup.
Got 4 models only :-(
HIT RM1,493
SUV D6 RM1,611
Vybe D7 RM1,849
Launch D8 RM3,120
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don't think any shop carry VISC, it's not popular model.
u might want to contact K&L see if they can help you import or not.
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post Mar 8 2022, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Mar 8 2022, 10:25 PM)
fnhon blast? I own two blast and am loving it. Thanks to botakwai for recommending it  smile.gif  :thumbsup:

where is the background. looks so nice and peaceful  smile.gif
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that is fnhon zephyr 349 mod. (zephyr stock is 305 wheelset)

what spec u get for your fnhon blast?

Rizrus and jolipoli81 might be interested.
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post Mar 9 2022, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(james.6831 @ Mar 9 2022, 09:35 AM)
whats a decent folding bike if budget at 1k? haha
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go scout used 1 will be more worth
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QUOTE(james.6831 @ Mar 9 2022, 03:50 PM)
nothing interesting nearby me on Carousell... btw why is hollow crank set better?
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just lighter.
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post Mar 10 2022, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Mar 10 2022, 10:14 PM)
i am not very familiar with specs, but let me list it out

1  - FnHon 22 inch slim tyres

- FnHon Blast Alloy Frame
- FnHon Handlebar
- FnHon Saddle
- FnHon Pedals
- FnHon Headset
- Litepro Hollowtech Crankset 53T
- Litepro Seatpost
- Litepro Wheelset
- Avid Brake Lever
- Shimano Alivio 9 Speed Shifter
- Shimano Sora RD
- 10.5Kg

The other one I need to check again the spec list  laugh.gif
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not bad…quite standard spec.
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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Mar 10 2022, 10:20 PM)
ok  smile.gif

for a newcomer like me, it is very nice  laugh.gif
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btw…why buy 2 same frame? don't want to explore other bike? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Mar 27 2022, 11:41 PM)
Completely noob question as I am very new to modern day bikes. May I know what sort of bicycle tool kit can I use to tighten my seat post screw?

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Also, what sort of cycling app do you guys usually use to track distance and routes covered? I am just starting out, using Strava (seems to be the most recommended and famous app around) free version. Any other recommendation?  sweat.gif  laugh.gif

And... my litepro crankset seems to be giving out some weird noise when I pedal. Any idea what might be the cause? My bike is a fnhon blast

Thank you
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use your hand. tighten when unlocked.

you can use samsung health too (if you are using samsung phone).
just disable power saving will do.
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QUOTE(cschuang @ Apr 2 2022, 11:01 AM)
Hi All.

Hope to get some views in this.

I have XDS AFB320 (2x8 speed), thinking of buying another FB and give the XDS to my son. Budget around RM1.5k, 2K max looking at used FB. Not hardcore (yet), cycle around taman for exercise purposes.

Have options Camp victor (11S), TRS Rochet (10S, with some upgrades), both around 1.5k. wondering whether shd I explore and pay more for well-known brands eg Dahon, Tern, Fnhon? With the 1.5k, specs won't b compatible with TRS and Camp.

Thanks in advance for your reply. Cheers.
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1.5-1.6k i will consider Rifle R8 or XDS K3.2
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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Mar 30 2022, 09:44 PM)
got it now  thumbsup.gif

i will go try out samsung health. I got fitbit too which can track cycling but I am not sure if it will show the map of the route i traveled. I will go check it out

thanks alot
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have you tried out samsung health?

you could export each session tracking to gpx file. then upload to this website for detailed analyze:
https://geo.javawa.nl/trackanalyse/index.php?lang=en

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