The shop play a DVD on the Philips. , put in a concert. From there you can see how good the contrast is. Then they put in a scenery, got waterfall and forest and all, very nice indeed. Then they put it on a Philips 42" with the same engine as the 32" (according to the salesperson), I just wanna bang my head on the wall. Really poor PQ (Maybe because beside the Philips 42" is a Pioneer 42". Pioneer has nice PQ, but price also very "nice"). The 32R8 they put in Astro. To tell you the truth, I would rather see Astro from Toshiba 42A3000E series than seeing 32R8. I cannot accept the quality. Surprising to me, the Toshiba 42" looks better than a Samsung 32". I thought should be the other way around. Samsung 32" on Astro look all blocky and the color just isn;t appealing to me.

Anyway, do know that some shop will try to promote a certain brand to you. They will say this and that about other brands. Know that certain brand gives better commission to them. In Penang SEC, they hook up the LCD to Astro so that you can see the PQ on astro, So, when you go to the shop, ask them to hook up astro and let you see.

actly all the while toshiba is better than samsung...jzu ppl dunno only ma...

ur reviews and opinion are sibek ekng

So that mean i've to consider Philips aaa..... Anyway.. Philips use what panel??

philips use LCD panel

Philips use LPL/S-IPS panel.

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Added on November 13, 2007, 12:42 pmif in terms of 42" i would recommend for 42PFL7432. It's 28.9billion colors man..better picture quality compare with 42PFL7422. both LCD is same price!!

In terms of the design, i believe Samsung always the winner..haha..everyone definately will fall in love with Samsung design at 1st sight.

This post has been edited by myKent: Nov 13 2007, 12:42 PM

if compare between
Sony KLV-32S310A RM2999 and
Philips 32PFL7422 RM3399
which one is better in term of watching TV and DVD???

personally,igo for sony if i only have those 2 to chose from wihtout seeing it myself, biased i must say

PQ is always subjective. But if i guess correctly, the S Series from Sony is on the lower range in Sony's LCD TV products. How much are you willing to pay for the LCD? Both are RM900 apart.

The truth is, you need to make the decision after you see both of them. Now let add in some confusion for you.

Go to electronic shop selling LCD TV. Most of them will:

1. Tell you not to buy Philips and Sony
2. Why? Philips like to spoilt alot and made in China. Sony is overprice, and PQ is not that great compared to other lcd tvs. Some will even say Sony use panel from Samsung, better take Samsung, cheaper. Look nicer. Shops that have high commission from Sharp will try to push Sharp to you, maybe Toshiba too.

You need to know while Sony might be using LCD panels from Samsung, both of them are using different engine, Sony = WEGA BRAVIA, Samsung = dnie. THis is what set them apart.

Philips, while it might be true it is made in China, but can you be sure that Sony won;t use a component made in China? They don;t tell you that. Even machine from Sony can spoilt. Philips made their stuffs in China to lower their price. What is more important is the PQ, and WARRANTY. Try to get a good warranty. I just saw from SEC that they add in 5 years warranty. From what the sales person said, what is cover is lightning, theft, and (this is new) own abuse. They'll pay you the original price even if it;s your own fault. I think jsut add in RM 300. I think it's worth it. SO, even if it;s spoilt, you can rest assured that it's still be insured.

Hehe, biased. Who;s not? If there is only two machines to choose from, I'll go for Philips for sure. Reason? Simple. Better PQ and it;s NOT OVERPRICE

I'd go for any glossy black lcd tv to match my PS3

Not sure about phillips panel but based on my experience Sony is using S-PVA panels manufactured by Samsung for their V series onwards where as Samsung only uses S-PVA for their higher range. Most Samsung's LCD in the mid range like the R81 uses S-MVA either manufactured by CMO or AUO(not sure the full name). S-MVA manufactured by AUO is considered equivalent to S-PVA but in reality, it is still not as good as the original S-PVA panels. S-MVA manufactured by CMO is not as good as those from AUO. You can tell the differences by the product code behind Samsung's tv whether it is A, C or S to determine its manufacturer and you can tell the type of panel by looking at the shape of its pixels. As for the S series for samsung, it uses the lowest quality panel which is MVA. I'm not sure which panel Sony S series are using but to be safe I'd rather go for their V series.

WOW. Does that mean if i break the tv by sledge hammering it while drunk, i get a brand new replacement???

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Hehe, biased. Who;s not? If there is only two machines to choose from, I'll go for Philips for sure. Reason? Simple. Better PQ and it;s NOT OVERPRICE

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WOW. Does that mean if i break the tv by sledge hammering it while drunk, i get a brand new replacement???

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That is what the sales person at SEC told me. I was amaze as well, which means that if I want a new LCD, just damage it and get a new one.....

all risk free insurance

but sony seem have much features compare to philips like:

1. Home Theater Sync, if i buy home theater from sony i can use this features. How bout philips?? Does it have too?

2. Still searchingggg.........

I get a quote from a certain LCD shop in SS2:

SONY KLV-32S310A=RM 2800

LG 32LC7R=RM 2350

AQUOS 32A53M=RM 3350

Seems like most expensive is Sharp AQUOS. The salesman at the shop is talking some nonsense about the AQUOS has 3 times the resolution of normal LCD!!! WTF! Does he knows what he is talking about!! It's not even FullHD!

anyway, i noticed a very weird thing...it seems the AQUOS has the best image proportion, the other models (Toshiba, Samsung, LG etc) have the image slightly elongated and there's some missing picture area at both side compared to the AQUOS....what gives?? The salesman was blabbering this is the AQUOS "full mode" while the other models don't have....i suspect maybe it's some setting issue???

I tested with both ASTRO and a DVD ("Heroes" starring Jet Li).

Any expert can give advise?



This post has been edited by Matrix: Nov 15 2007, 12:01 AM

It depends on the options available in the various sets.

My older LG 37LC2R had 8 different sizes to choose from for TV viewing, among them the Full mode . Don't know if it's the same feature you are talking about.

But I think the new LC7R series no longer has the Full mode.

Yes, he say it was full mode. How come new model dun have? Then all the people will look fat!!!

Still not sure if you are referring to the same Full mode as the LG.

Here's a few options available on my set

1) Original mode (Just like original 4:3) on conventional TV - You get the right proportion
but since the TV is 16:9 , the left and right side will have black bars of course.
2) 4:3 mode - Will force the source to be in 4:3 mode (in this case same as above)
3) 16:9 mode - will enlongate the 4:3 TV image to fit the 16:9 screen (People will look Fat)
4) 14:9 mode - Will take the 4:3 image and overscan the top and bottom slightly so that the image
is bigger and the black bars on left and right are less. The image will still look proportionate.
5) Zoom1
6) Zoom2
7) Spectacle- Almost the same is 16:9 but top and bottom hass more overscan
8) Full - Whenever the TV program is in widescreen (with the black bars at top and bottom)
it will automatically detect and enlage the top and bottom so that the black bars disappear. The peoples faces will then be proportionate.

Thanks for the tip. But when i test the TVs yesterday, even DVD movies looks slightly fatter compared other TVs with the AQUOS. But of course, i only test 1 movie. I still somehow suspect the salesman is trying to bluff me. When i watch the movie yesterday, there's still plenty black bars on top and bottom.

I think gotta go another place to test it out...maybe even bring my own DVD next time.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Nov 15 2007, 08:54 AM