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post Apr 17 2008, 11:46 AM

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You can ask for some discount (1-2 cents) either on the 'buy/sell' side if your amount is large enough.

Another way to avoid the slippage and get the spot rate is using DCI structure product then you can get away the slippage on both sell and buy side. But DCI normally is 100K and above.
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post Apr 17 2008, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Apr 17 2008, 11:55 AM)
Which bank offers Forex DCI ?
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Almost all foreign banks got.

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post Apr 22 2008, 03:32 PM

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There are similar thread, so threads being merged.
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post Apr 23 2008, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(Zarth @ Apr 23 2008, 01:17 AM)
Hi cherroy,

Thanks for merging up the threads. I understand its tough work moderating the forums. smile.gif

However, the AUD Savings Plan I am referring to is not really a Foreign FD account, but rather a Close Ended Guaranteed Investment Fund which can be an alternative to FD.

It works more like a Savings/Education Plan denominated in AUD. Hence the reason why I didn't post it up together with the foreign FD threads.

Here are some of the reason why its different:

1. It comes with Free Insurance Coverage of up to 125%.
2. It is Creditor proof unlike normal bank FD, where creditors can go after your FD money.
3. There's zero withholding tax. Normal bank FD above RM100,000 is subjected to 5% tax.
4. You may even get to enjoy Tax Relief up to RM 6,000 Life Savings/EPF as well as RM3,000 Education reliefts as its considered a life savings/education plan.

This is the closes thing you can get to opening a foreign currency account without having to pay the account charges.

There will be a newspaper advertisement on the News Strait Times on the 24th and 25th April, for those who subscribe.

Offer period is from 18th April till 19th May, 2008 subjected to a first come first serve basis. Offer may close earlier if the assets are fully subscribe.

Current assets available is AUD 7 mil only.

Meanwhile, the company is trying to get more assets approved, so that more people can get to participate.

Hope the additional info can be of help to those interested.

Thank. Best Regards.
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Thanks for the information.

I will look into it. May I know which fund house is offering it?

The merger of you thread with forex FD seems a bit harsh. NVM, we consider it as Forex FD variant, so feel free to post futher information here.

Thanks. Cheers.

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post Apr 23 2008, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(cutegurl @ Apr 23 2008, 03:41 PM)
One thing i dun understand is if is GUARANTEED return, 20.22% pa, still got people want to go in stock market ? or put in normal FD? some risk must be there right ?
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As said AUD current interest rate is 7% pa. So if you put 3 years FD of AUD, you can get 21% already after 3 years already.
Just you have to bare the currency exchange rate risk. So if AUD goes down, you lose on the capital depreciation side but if it appreciates then you gain extra.

Anyway, AUD is one of the strongest currency at the moment due to inflation in commodities as we knew Australia is one of the major commodities producers like gold, iron ore, wheat etc.
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post Jul 22 2008, 09:03 PM

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There are some existing threads already. Kindly proceed to the old thread to post. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=512136&hl=

Thread merged.

Thanks.

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post Aug 11 2008, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(agape_ian @ Aug 11 2008, 05:09 PM)
The interest rate is high but it seems like AUD and NZD is going down. Heard New Zealand is facing recession now. My question is:

1. Should one start to invest since the rates are lower now?
2. Should one withdraw if they have previously invested?
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1. It depends on the prospect of the currency vs RM. If you think RM is going to be very strong, then no point invest in others currency as well.
You need to see the particular currency or country economy situation or health of the economy to determine whether it is suit to invest in it. Purely invest in rate alone might not generate return to you instead the yield getting might not enough to offset the depreciation of the currency. There are some currencies that offer double digit interest rate, but no people interested to invest in those either. You invest in some currency that is internationally strong.
Currency go up and down is a norm which largely due to economical cycle and timing of it differ from each others.

2. It depends what is the purpose of putting it in the first place. Putting Forex FD has one primary objective, diversification of asset and hedge against RM depreciation. Secondary is the yield differentiate. You need to see the overall and broader picture.

It is a long term investment, and mainly usefulness is diversification of asset and hedge against own currency depreciation.
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post Aug 13 2008, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 13 2008, 06:04 AM)
Interesting opinion. The interest rate for USD is maybe 2.5% now. Does that mean they don't want people to invest in the US ? smile.gif
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There are lot of factors for a country central bank or in US is Fed to decide the interest rate policy. Generally primary concern would be economic growth and inflatin situation.

You can't raise interest rate is the economy situation is in bad shape especially in US finance instituitions are under great stress because of credit crisis and subprime woes. But on the other hand, they can't let the inflation situatin get out of hand which affect the confidence issue on the particular currency.
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post Sep 1 2008, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(aloony @ Sep 1 2008, 09:34 AM)
I've just invested in FCFD, precisely NZD with current rate of 2.410.
The return is quite high with 8.51% per annum and I understand the risk of such deposit.
Right now, i need to trace back the history or futures of NZD dollar in case I need to invest more.

Do anyone of you have the link for me to study the movement of NZD?

Thanks in advance!
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Simple and free site can be obtained through Yahoo finance
http://au.finance.yahoo.com/currency/conve...=MYR&amt=1&t=5y


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QUOTE(wingcross @ Sep 1 2008, 10:02 AM)
what about the 5% tax ? i know i seen the tax thing somewhere.
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Witholding tax on interest gain of 5% is minimal compared to overall amount you are potentially getting. Don't worry about the witholding, more attention should be paid on the particular currency strength against RM and the interest spread.

The main purpose on investing in this kind of FD is to hedge against RM depreciation through asset diversification.

I don't know the lastest budget to abolished tax on interest getting on saving/FD is including Forex FD or not. Need to check out first, anyway, it is next year issue.

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QUOTE(Lawyer1 @ Sep 4 2008, 06:46 AM)
Is the above program still available please ?

Where can I find more details on the above please ?
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I don't think it is available anymore, since it is a closed ended fund as offer period has expired, then it will be closed.

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post Sep 9 2008, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(aloony @ Sep 9 2008, 10:40 AM)
The New Zealand goverment has announced the interest rate reduce from 8.2% to 8.0%.
http://www.learncurrencytrading.com/fxforu...ulders-top.html
It mentions that it will be revised more due to the slumping economy of the country. I think this will heart more to our FCFD sad.gif
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High yield currency is under a lot of pressure with interest rate cycle is on the way down, and massive unwinding carry trade. Already said NZD is already in bearish tone since last few months back.

As said before, this is not a place to chase for higher return, it is a place for asset diversification and hedge against RM depreciation (just in case).


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post Oct 1 2008, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(C0kak1e @ Oct 1 2008, 02:29 AM)
Alright.. after reading those threads posted by b00n i dun think FCFD is a good way to make money.. thanks to everyone for the info here... Im a n00b at investing and would like to learn.. can recommend me some easy investment where a newbie can start off?? maybe recommend something that is not that difficult to handle and have a small earning.. just a stepping stone.. i try reading other investment thread and i cant understand 90% of what they're talking bout.. even when i read the guides from website they post i just pening... what are the investment type for newbies?
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There are plenty of discussion on foreign currency FD in the old thread, kindly google it up.

It can be a good place to disversify and hedging purposes but it depends on individual aims and purposes. Different investment product serves different purposes and associated with different risk profile. Can't say FCFC which one is good or not good totally which applied across all investment tools.

Do remember to invest only when you fully know what is it about. Otherwise, keeping in FD first. Don't make a move until you understand it will my my 2 cents advice. What you need is to explore it and understand it. None of investment tools are perfect.
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Nov 10 2008, 02:33 AM)
MYR/AUD is at 5-year highs. It's almost vertical. So hopefully the AUD won't crash within the first term (or am I looking at the wrong chart?)

http://au.finance.yahoo.com/currency/conve...=AUD&amt=1&t=1y

Tell me if I'm looking at the wrong chart because it seems kind of high to be buying now.
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Yes, MYR/AUD is at 5 years high, means that AUD is at 5 years low. FOr AUD/MYR, it has plunged down form 2.90-3.00 to now around 2.30-2.40 due to global financial crisis and commodities bubble bursting.

MYR/AUD chart is invert with AUD/MYR. Normally people look at AUD/MYR as your base currency is MYR.
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Nov 10 2008, 04:24 PM)
Don't know if i should post up here but here's my situation

I'm going over to UK around June next year, since the pound rate is kinda low now i was thinking of changing some amount first and keep it in case it goes up.

My question will be can i FD the money with local banks as in pound?Or there's any other better suggestion?

Sorry if i ask in the wrong place smile.gif
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Yes, you asked/post at right place.

Almost all banks here got GBP FD (foreign currency account/fd) already. So if you think it is low now and wish to exchange to GBP then you can do so locally and park the money in GBP FD first then only withdraw when going to UK time.
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Nov 10 2008, 04:59 PM)
Thanks for the feedback, any idea how's the interest rate will be like?Just like ordinary FD?

Another issue, i was looking at bank's exchange rate and there's this term "Selling TT/OD" which has a lower rate compare to "Currency Note Selling", may i know what's the differences as the rates difference is kinda significant.

For example from Maybank's website, 1 Sterling Pound

Selling TT/OD : 5.6590

Selling (Currency Notes) : 5.9980
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Don't look at the currency notes one. Currency notes exchange rate is for physical currency ie, you are getting physical pound notes in your hand. Look at TT rate whereby you are not intended to get physical notes in your hand.

When you are going to UK times, I reckon you are taking the GBP with you in term of remittance/bank draft or travel cheque, right? So TT is the right way to do it.
If really want GBP notes then better go outside money exchange which is much cheaper, banks always charge astronomical high rate when dealing physical notes.

Interest rate depends on UK interest rate there, just last week UK slashed interest rate from 4.5% to 3%. So expect around 2-3% which varies from bank to bank.
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post Nov 16 2008, 07:33 AM

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It has to do with the currency volatility. The higher the volatility is on that day, the higher they can give. That's why you see everyday the rate is different.
70% pa for 1 week on paper look great but it actually translate into 1.4% (which if they can offer the it means generally the currency movement on that day move more than 3% already). But still at 250K capital, you get 3.5K in one week time only.
Banks surely on winning side, no matter which way the currency goes, because it has to do with some options they are taking when customers sign out for the investment plan. The greater the volatility, the greater the more option can be gaining.

It is an investment tool for some, but not all.
It is suit to people that got intention to change the currency in the first place. It is not risk free, but it is a alternative product for changing the currency but not essential or immediate use.
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Nov 15 2008, 11:56 PM)
Wouldn't they lose a lot of money that way ? smile.gif  Are you sure you won't get back the principal at 1.90 if (3) happens? and which bank will give you 70% interest, even for DCI ? smile.gif

Thanks for the chart links tho smile.gif
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Yes, but if you are not needing the money, then without changing back to RM, you are suffering on paper loss, not yet realise. Similar to buying stock at 2.27, now drop to 1.90 but you still getting the interest rate on AUD side if park the money in AUD FD, currently 5% or so depended on RBA.

Take it this way, initial you already want to change at 2.30 in the first palce. But taking DCI, you can change at 2.27 + getting 1.4% extra after 1 week (70% pa for 1 week). So whether it drop to 2.00 or 1.90, you initial decission makes no different as you alreayd made up your mind to change at 2.30 in the first palce.
Again like I mentioned, it is not risk free, it is suit to some, but not all.

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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Nov 16 2008, 01:54 PM)
i Tot it stated the DCI is up to 15% interest perannum......where did it says 70%??? sumore min investment 3mil? wow..
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No it varies according to the forex market volatility, as you know recently volatility is unprecedental high.

Depends on banks, most banks offer min of 250k.
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QUOTE(Saigo @ Jan 26 2009, 03:57 PM)
Hmm I see. I thought I'd be able to withdraw as NZD$, I guess that wouldn't be suitable for me then.
Hmm, I'm not sure about that. I plan to travel to NZ in November of this year.. if I'm afraid of NZ appreciating later this year, should I just purchase hard cold NZD cash from the money changers instead? If I were to do that, I just don't like the fact that I can't keep it in a safer place (ie: bank) plus earn that tiny bit of interest.

Since it's the recession worldwide, I doubt if I hold on to physical NZD, the inflation rate would affect me by much? What do you guys think? Sorry if my knowledge in the financial markets isn't really up to par..
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Holding physical note in massive amount is always not advisable, as the risk of being stolen is greater the risk of the currency appreciating. Also you get none interest from it by holding physical note.

You still can withdraw the NZD, using NZD remittance to withdraw in NZ bank if your intention is to study there or stay there for long haul. But just for few days travelling purposes, then it might not be that suitable.
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Jan 27 2009, 12:43 AM)
hi guys, need advice... i have a ton of usd in cash. instead of just letting is do ntg, is there any bank that i can put like an FD for monthly terms n get it back at usd later?
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Currently those foreign currency FD/call account etc by commercial banks generally can accept bank in but cannot withdraw back as foreign currency note, as far as I know. Because Banks don't prepare those note or having those note in place all the time, that's why they don't allow customers to withdraw as note.

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