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Household Is D’Erica by Exsim consider a high density?, Is it a good buy?

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Erictan1981
post Mar 16 2021, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(lollipopkan @ Mar 16 2021, 04:26 PM)
Doesn't help the fact that these 3 projects are overpriced and priced on top of the pyramid for their range.
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I feel overprice too. That why i not go for these three project.
A condo with 700k-900k price better go for landed property.

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Erictan1981
post Mar 16 2021, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Mar 16 2021, 03:48 PM)
Any of point 1 or 2 or 3 within walking distance? What about flora Damansara? Can buy there mah.

Yes, skydesk build with walking distance to future Empire Damansara.
But i won't have high expectation on Empire Damansara which many factors unknown in future.
If within walking distance to 1U/The curve, will you paid higher price for the property?
Do we still have land beside 1U/the curve surrounding area?
Flora Damansara is flat & with zero facilities, how can you compare apple with Oren?
If you have much concern about Flora Damansara then Dquine, DCosmo, DVervain will be worst which is next to Flora Damansara.

What are the comparing projects for this project?? How sure this won't end up like icon??
Nobody will granted whether this mixed development will successful but it also doesn't mean it will end up like Icon City.
Anyhow everybody have their own perception, no offend. Chill.

What is the similarities between those Bangsar South, Damansara Utama, Bandar Utama, Kota Damansara, Sunway Velocity, Sunway City, Mid valley and this Exsim project?? All of them got MRT many high tenancy office tower hospital university malls etc. How many confirmed here??
No one can confirmed to you.
If there is 100% grantee , i believe you won't get these affordable price offered. Buy at own risk & justification.
But i believe the mature township & easy accessibility will split over and plus point to make the mixed development more successfully.

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post Mar 16 2021, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Erictan1981 @ Mar 16 2021, 06:21 PM)
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TBH no one will really consider 30 mins walk as "walking distance" other than going for a run. laugh.gif
I used to walk about 8-12 mins to the LRT station for work (around 600m) and that duration depends on whether wearing heels or running shoes. I would say given the Msian climate that is about the limit (circa 1km total walking to office as well) for me.

Whilst the below study was made in the US the behavioural analysis shows that much lesser people walk more than 20 mins/trip.

Most walking trips were <2 miles in distance (97%) and <60 minutes in duration (99%). According to the distance decay function, about 65% of walking trips were >0.25 miles, and about 18% of walking trips were >1 mile. About 69% of walking trips lasted >5 minutes, and about 23% of walking trips lasted >20 minutes.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3377942/

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post Mar 16 2021, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(Erictan1981 @ Mar 16 2021, 04:21 AM)

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2.1km 27 mins is walking distance.

Congrats buy more units pls.
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post Mar 16 2021, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(Erictan1981 @ Mar 16 2021, 06:21 PM)
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walking distance almost 30mins beside high traffic roads with zero shade in Malaysia? laugh.gif

no freaking way people will actually walk lmfao

even in middle of KL or Sunway City where there's plenty of sidewalks no one local will walk more than 20 minutes unless you die hard PokeGo fan

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post Mar 16 2021, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Erictan1981 @ Mar 16 2021, 02:10 PM)
Bro, you can't compare OUG MXXXX with Damansara. Both are apple vs Oren.
Damansara/PJ property no whether how bad situation, it always have core value and i didn't see property price in PJ area will be bad drop in the past.

Agreed with slightly higher density, but these is township development near by few mature township. Their plan is to attract more residential & population to make BEFORE commercial construction such as office tower, school/college, rekreasi park in place.

Low density you might need to paid high maintenance cost & risk for whole master plan development fail due to low population.
Despite 4 project phase with 10K approximately. Each of them have their own theme & facilities.
The demand in PJ area is always there due to high move in population & high job opportunities, education etc.

Anyhow these project is really very hot selling. Both tower A & B almost 90% sold & book.
I attached sales chart for your reference. All red color being booked & 80% above with SNP signed if not mistaken based on statistic information from IQI.
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Bro, chill, not comparing both "township", just let you know, every masterplan also can change from time by time, even government projects also, i encounter alot in this field.
and attract more residential and population before commerical construction is normally agent talk la... i myself also said that before, but think about what SIFU LOLLIPOPKAN said, if a project is strong enough in location, doesn't need high density residential to support.

Ofcourse yes, demand is always there in Pj and bascially every where in KL and Pj. Low density pay higer mantenance cost ofcourse, but you try to see some freaking high dense project, do you know the management suffer with so many owners that doesn't pay the fees? if high dense project, definitely suffer more when this kind of things happened.
try to look at Empire Density, how many units owner trying to throw price for attract tenant even though only 640 units?

not selling , but comparing la, if you said D series is convenience because of the points you share, you can try to compare with TG. TG definitely nearer. you try to look back what you shared and try to walk under hot sun, 27mins for 2.1km to The curve....And furthermore no walk path, is road side.

Ok, no doubt Exsim project seriously very nice, i myself also a fans of their product to be honest, but for this project, judge from every posibility and aspect, i don't really feel good.
btw, you said you are owner of D'erica, mind sharing which layout you bought? and what price range? as you said 700k-900k you would rather go for landed property.


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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Mar 16 2021, 11:45 PM)
walking distance almost 30mins beside high traffic roads with zero shade in Malaysia? laugh.gif

no freaking way people will actually walk lmfao

even in middle of KL or Sunway City where there's plenty of sidewalks no one local will walk more than 20 minutes unless you die hard PokeGo fan
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Even my father in law a pokemon fan also won't walk like that dude. haha
500m also feel hot and sweat like showering lo. brows.gif laugh.gif drool.gif
Erictan1981
post Mar 17 2021, 08:19 AM

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I strongly agree more than 5 min is running distance. But i buying because location n reasonable price not because walking distance to the curve/1U. I believe most of people at pj prefer drive rather than walk under hot sun. Walking distance is just a plus point.

Anyhow everybody have their own perception. For me,this pj area, i believe this project will be sucessfully n potential due to location n conectivitiy.

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post Mar 20 2021, 03:51 AM

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Nah.

D series location is HORRIBLE.

Those who say the location is good is either a dreaming owner, or a sales agent.

Don’t believe me? Go there and see for yourself. Especially during peak hours.

There’s literally tens of thousands, maybe hundred thousands of residential apartment/flat/condo there.

The whole area of mutiara damansara is absurdly high density.

Ur better off living at Kota damansara or Bandar Utama buying subsales. Can always find money for the DP & lawyer fees, really. EPF, inflate the bank loan, etc.

800k can get you tons of BETTER choices.
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post Mar 20 2021, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Erictan1981 @ Mar 16 2021, 02:10 PM)
Bro, you can't compare OUG MXXXX with Damansara. Both are apple vs Oren.
Damansara/PJ property no whether how bad situation, it always have core value and i didn't see property price in PJ area will be bad drop in the past.

Agreed with slightly higher density, but these is township development near by few mature township. Their plan is to attract more residential & population to make BEFORE commercial construction such as office tower, school/college, rekreasi park in place.

Low density you might need to paid high maintenance cost & risk for whole master plan development fail due to low population.
Despite 4 project phase with 10K approximately. Each of them have their own theme & facilities.
The demand in PJ area is always there due to high move in population & high job opportunities, education etc.

Anyhow these project is really very hot selling. Both tower A & B almost 90% sold & book.
I attached sales chart for your reference. All red color being booked & 80% above with SNP signed if not mistaken based on statistic information from IQI.
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Ahh.. the "HOT SELLING" talk again..

Where did I hear that from?? From EVERY SA in existence...

Go every showroom.. they sure show you a board with sticker showing all the units have taken up...

Like Tropicana projects... go there SA would say .... "Only a few units left"..... show us a board with fully filled sticker and somehow want us to tell her which unit we interested so that in case the buyer "drop out" from booking or whatever nonsense...

Each of them have own theme & facilities??? Those doesn't segregate the properties from one another and aren't factors to attract sub sale buyers...

To differentiate a property from one another, it has to be distinctive on its own .... for example one of the project is developed for high class residence (much lower density with higher end finishing/design and facilities) while another is developed for "affordability" with high density and standard facilities.... in EXISM case.... all 4 projects are equally high in density and quality of facilities... the target audience is obvious... you can't say they are different just because they have different "Theme" or "layout"...


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post Mar 20 2021, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(lollipopkan @ Mar 16 2021, 04:24 PM)
Some people are excessively phrasing words carefully.

Which properties don't have core values? No bad drop because of time goes by, if developer is selling at a future inflated price, pairs with high density projects, you might argue price won't drop but it won't increase either. Yet buyers are still losing. Don't forget about how much of the loan interest you are paying.

If a project has good enough location, it doesn't need to have high density residential units to support its commercial. On the other hand, will the commercial develop strong enough that people will neglect one utama and ikea damansara are just nearby within 10mins driving?

Mixed development is always a can of worm. You buy property priced at the success of the mixed development factored in but no one is paying you compensation when the mixed development isn't that successful.

Bear in mind where are the real prime areas of damansara and PJ.
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Yea correct.... you cannot lump everything in Klang Valley/PJ/Damansara and call it Prime Area...

Damansara Perdana has always been known to be the Sentul of Damansara
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Mar 16 2021, 09:10 PM)
TBH no one will really consider 30 mins walk as "walking distance" other than going for a run.  laugh.gif
I used to walk about 8-12 mins to the LRT station for work (around 600m) and that duration depends on whether wearing heels or running shoes. I would say given the Msian climate that is about the limit (circa 1km total walking to office as well) for me.

Whilst the below study was made in the US the behavioural analysis shows that much lesser people walk more than 20 mins/trip.

Most walking trips were <2 miles in distance (97%) and <60 minutes in duration (99%). According to the distance decay function, about 65% of walking trips were >0.25 miles, and about 18% of walking trips were >1 mile. About 69% of walking trips lasted >5 minutes, and about 23% of walking trips lasted >20 minutes.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3377942/
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Walking distance is very subjectives...

The environment, walk path, cleanliness and safety plays a huge role in walking distance..


For example... a 1km walk distance that is fully sheltered, clean and safe environment to the destination would definitely feel like a short breeze compared to a 1km walk through a dirty alley way and full of dangerous fast moving cars roads that you need to cross in between..

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Mar 16 2021, 07:59 AM)
Terrible choice for ownstay or appreciation.

With tens of thousands of condos being empty just rent while waiting to save to buy a subsale condo.
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hi why do you say is terrible choice for own stay? I am planning to get 1 unit d'vervaine for own stay
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QUOTE(Oklahoma @ Apr 8 2021, 04:59 PM)
hi why do you say is terrible choice for own stay? I am planning to get 1 unit d'vervaine for own stay
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Just checking with you, are you familiar with the area?
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post Apr 8 2021, 08:41 PM

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Please elaborate in details why not suitable for own stay n so call terrible. That place is still under development. U wont knw what will happen in next 10 years. PJ already no much land for new development. Just buy based on your preferrable n not based on someone said..

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Mar 20 2021, 02:33 PM)
Walking distance is very subjectives...

The environment, walk path, cleanliness and safety plays a huge role in walking distance..
For example... a 1km walk distance that is fully sheltered, clean and safe environment to the destination would definitely feel like a short breeze compared to a 1km walk through a dirty alley way and full of dangerous fast moving cars roads that you need to cross in between..
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I walked 2km home before from train station through ghetto area, on main road coz no proper walkway (either the busy main road or no way), inches away from main road traffic when I was a poor schoolgirl, now of course if I were to pay good money for a place like 600k would I want to repeat that harrowing experience again? laugh.gif

For those who haven't seen the 'hood pls take a drive there at night and see.

Granted PJ may be land scarce but not all areas of PJ are "atas", PJU PJS also have their "ghetto" areas.
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QUOTE(digitalz @ Apr 8 2021, 05:25 PM)
Just checking with you, are you familiar with the area?
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Yes, went showroom....I know got flora Damansara beside...

Other than that seem ok...future developments, no clue though
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post Apr 8 2021, 10:56 PM

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Not only that. Some people will said what high density,templer/mosque near by, no walking distance to mall, no Public transportation, not atas place etc. But all that not big concern for me.I looking for future development n not now. As long as strategy location n connectivity to mature township.

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post Apr 8 2021, 11:52 PM

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U can't get this pricing in PJ. This itself it's already a bargain.

Forest hill is also near to flora, no one made a hoo haa, its worth millions now. The entrance also have to pass flora.

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