Haha babizz boss, we all know developer definitely wont sign that la.
Look at XXX oug now....from original master plan few blocks until now, become concrete jungle liao...
that's why i'm thinking, one of the point that we should concern before buying a high-rise also need to see if beside there still have empty land/very old landed or industrial land to be possibly buy by developer to build another blocks or not.

nowadays still got people believe artist impression? LMAO

Never trust artist impression, lower the expectation from what you see, it will never be the same at least for 80% of the developer out there

You must be selling one of Exsim product, I own Exsim product. I would think twice for D Series.

Millerz, i wonder how many lelong coming up
Arcuz, overpriced
Rosewoodz, too small development probably trying to stick to Rainz success

What else? Exsim is bailing out what Sg Wang, Empire Damansara?

Exsim is never the value for money botique developer anymore. Now they are just a massive photocopy machine, all the layout looks similar to one another project with massive high dense development

Doesn't help the fact that these 3 projects are overpriced and priced on top of the pyramid for their range.

Any of point 1 or 2 or 3 within walking distance? What about flora Damansara? Can buy there mah.

Yes, skydesk build with walking distance to future Empire Damansara.
But i won't have high expectation on Empire Damansara which many factors unknown in future.
If within walking distance to 1U/The curve, will you paid higher price for the property?
Do we still have land beside 1U/the curve surrounding area?
Flora Damansara is flat & with zero facilities, how can you compare apple with Oren?
If you have much concern about Flora Damansara then Dquine, DCosmo, DVervain will be worst which is next to Flora Damansara.

What are the comparing projects for this project?? How sure this won't end up like icon??
Nobody will granted whether this mixed development will successful but it also doesn't mean it will end up like Icon City.
Anyhow everybody have their own perception, no offend. Chill.

What is the similarities between those Bangsar South, Damansara Utama, Bandar Utama, Kota Damansara, Sunway Velocity, Sunway City, Mid valley and this Exsim project?? All of them got MRT many high tenancy office tower hospital university malls etc. How many confirmed here??
No one can confirmed to you.
If there is 100% grantee , i believe you won't get these affordable price offered. Buy at own risk & justification.
But i believe the mature township & easy accessibility will split over and plus point to make the mixed development more successfully.

Hey man... no one is saying you cannot be happy with your purchase... if it is not a concern for you... then yea... best property ever for you...

but for other buyers... these factors play a huge role in their property purchase....
Also... what future development are you talking about??

AFAIK ... there is no city planning type of development proposed by Exism around the area...

Like I said... if you are happy because all those factors doesn't concern you.. then good for you...

This is a forum for discussion... not a forum to glorify projects and leave the readers uninformed...

I've done my homework for this and every other project that I've commented in this forum....the master plan only highlighted the development for 4 residential apartment and nothing else... that is a fact...

even if the master plan includes building a mall or whatever.... it would not guarantee that the developer following through their master plan .... case in point Torpicana Metropark and recent cancellation of the "Mall" and "Hotel" from the master plan... HOWEVER.... they are being replaced by other commercial development like shop lots... master plan changed but they are still keeping their word that the land reserve for commercial stays as commercial

When a developer doesn't state their master plan (just for clarity sake... a complete master plan must be a declared project) .... it is likely that they are going to build more residential buildings.... it is absolutely naïve to think they will build something like a park or a leisure place (like some forumer here mentioned) which doesn't earn the developer any money AFTER the existing residential projects have launched for a period of time..

I don't give false hope or fantasy thoughts when I comment on a property..... my opinions are always base on facts and observations.... it might change but the precedents have shown how a master plan would "normally" end up when there are no other declared project within the master plan rather than some unprecedented idea that the developer would just develop the additional area for the benefit of the existing residences as an "After Thought"...
I am not a property agent or whatever.... also... how do I "Con" people with negative points?? If I'm a property agent.. wouldn't it make more sense for me to give ridiculous and imaginary ideas like how you did to get people to buy the property from me??

Also... If you read my posts... I also points out the positives for this project.... one being affordability.... and I also have disputed with others when they made imaginary presumption that this property would be bad because of something that are not foreseeable or non material...

The issue with you is that because you have bought the property... you are expecting only positive remarks rather than looking at facts.... hence...let me tell you this... facts don't care about your feelings

I did not state my assumption on the master plan as a fact.... I clearly said... it is "likely" the developer would construct more residential based on precedence...

the downfalls that I've mentioned were base on what has been observed and the information available

The mosque is being build at a close proximity.... is that not a fact?
The highway is less than 150m... is that not a fact?
It has 1k+ units for each of the project.... is that not a fact?

on and on and on....

I'm not here to give advise on what you should or should not buy.... I'm just stating facts and then gave my opinions on the issues presented based on information provided

Just so you know.. 650psf for a LEASEHOLD project... is not a huge bargain when you are talking about a highly dense project and non-prime location (yes.. to me damansara perdana is not a prime location and it has never been seen as part of the high priced damansara location).

650psf is based on average price that I've surveyed online....

There are quite a few projects that I would take the effort to visit the showroom.... but for this project I did not go to the showroom... you don't need to go to the showroom to know that there is a mosque being build there and the highway is less than 150m from the project location... google maps could easily show you the distance...

So far... I did not comment about the layout or the unit design.... I only commented on external factors and numbers presented by the developers... hence does it matter whether or not I've been to the showroom??

How many properties I own is none of your concern.... I don't need to own many properties to provide my observation and opinion of a property ...

I'm not sure where you are heading at with your statements.... if you know you are getting peanuts from paying peanuts... then why are you so upset when people highlights the flaws or condemn the project??

I'm not claiming to be an expert... just providing my observation based on the available facts...

Again... since when argument from authority is needed to provide one's observation and opinion on a project?? You don't need to own many properties to tell a property is good or bad based on external factors.... besides what is even the correlation between owning other properties and providing one's observation on this particular property???

So you telling me... if I don't own any properties... the highway is going to disappear?? the religious places will automatically move to other location?? the mosque would suddenly stop building?? the location automatically turns into your fantasy land???

I can't stress this enough.... my views on this project given so far was based on external factors.... I've not given any conjectures like you.... who kept saying things that might happen with zero basis.... it is absolutely naïve to think the developer would developer the area to benefit the current projects when they themselves have not declared any of your imaginary scenario in their masterplan...

My assumption were not all negative....  plus..... didn't you just admit that the property is crap because of the price you are paying?? Why are you suddenly on a defensive mode again?? It's like you can't make up your mind....

I'm just retorting your points....

I seriously do not know what is your end game here...

First... you condemn others who gave negative views about the property

Then... you yourself says that the property is as cheap as the price paid...

do you not have any constructive views on the property that you've bought?? It felt like you are on a blind purchase here.... meaning to say that you bought this property because of the cheap price without doing an ounce of research. while hoping that everything about the property is good ... hence when people started to point out the flaws then you starts to exhibit buyer's remorse behaviour..

also... I'm not sure how many times I need to repeat myself... the number of properties I own is none of your concern...

I have no idea what "fresh bird" means.... but I couldn't care less with the strange words or analogies that you've been using....