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kingkong81
post Sep 9 2007, 09:45 PM

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Tomoro market might turn red...hopefully not so so red lor

US market is still very volatile. When people tot that situation there calm down a bit, they give u another suprise with -200+ points on Friday unsure.gif
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post Oct 12 2007, 10:57 AM

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Selling 'urself' juz to get sales fr rich guy is really a sad thing...

Maybe she juz lost herself in the race to get more $$...Ai~~
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post Oct 12 2007, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 12 2007, 01:34 PM)
Just called Telemutual, but it says system is busy. Have to try so many times before managed to get my turn

My guess today a lot of people is doing switching  sweat.gif
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This week alone i've done few switching for my clients...not kiasi, but wan to ride on the china tide. All go for PCSF.. nod.gif nod.gif

PCSF made all other funds look so slow... some ady complained that PFEPRF are too slow, although it already break even in about 2 months time laugh.gif


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post Oct 17 2007, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(I_bryan @ Oct 17 2007, 05:33 PM)
When perform a switching, the price will reflect tht particular day prices or the following day?....let say switching is done b4 bank close 4pm
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For additional investment, the cut off time is 4pm, but switching is different.

If your agent help you to do swicthing, your agent must submit the switching form to PM before 2.30pm, after that, it ic consider next day price.

If customer/client submit the form themselves, the cut off time is 3.30pm

(this is wat my branch told me...)
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I oso dunno why agent cut-off time is so early for switching shakehead.gif

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post Oct 19 2007, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(chidori_nep @ Oct 19 2007, 12:06 AM)
Hihi~ Newbie (and SUPER NOOB) here  biggrin.gif I'm a 22 year old student who suddenly felt a strong 'urge' to start investing on something..and chose to start off with Public Mutual Unit Trusts.  tongue.gif Currently invested 1k in PCSF at around 0.278 price & 4k in PSEASF....thought of juz leaving em there for them to grow until I read all u guys' posts....SO PRO!!!  thumbup.gif Feel so inspired by all u guys' knowledge, esp dzi921, Jordy, David83, Darkmage12 , I_bryan, lwb, kingkong81, leekk8, etc.....Wow to think of all the time & energy spend on tracking & predicting the trend of the market  blink.gif ya guys must've spend lots of time on it everyday  notworthy.gif

Hope u guys will keep up the good work!!! So i can learn more stuff from ya guys!!!! and hopefully get sum tips along the way...haha~ whistling.gif

(lol this unit trust thing is too interesting...keep distracting me from studying for coming (& very near) exam.... rclxub.gif )
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Well, during my uni time i never thought of investment or even financial management, not until i start working then only i realised the importance of it.

So, for u, i would said it is a good start. At least you start earlier, realising the importance of investment will really help in future.

As all the others advised...study is ur priority wink.gif
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post Oct 19 2007, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 19 2007, 12:48 PM)
Back when I'm in college 8 years ago, investment is never part of our discussion. Only talk about assignment, projects, exams, play, entertainment, etc

How I wish I can turn back time!
Even when I started working, investment was not in my exposure. Salary, Spend, Not enough -> Salary, Spend, Not enough -> Repeat for 5 years

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QUOTE(chidori_nep @ Oct 19 2007, 01:00 PM)
blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif I don't think investment is part of ANY discussion in college/universities now too....haha. Even if there are any young investors, most of them are keeping mum on it sweat.gif or it is done under their name by some family member. haha  laugh.gif

27 years old still young!! Plus ur dzi maybe help u buy sum time!!! wink.gif

peace out icon_rolleyes.gif
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If not for the "Rich Dad Poor Dad" book that i read while waiting to find job...i will not be investing. The book really give me a real smack in the face...its time to wake up!!! A lot of thing v juz take for granted, but we din realised v can take control and change.

The problem with our education system is it concentrate in teaching us to study hard and get a good job.

Nothing about financial management. Nothing about financial freedom.

in the end...every1 juz work work work...paying off their loan througout their life...then they tell their children, you should study hard and get a better job than you father...and the cycle continues

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post Oct 22 2007, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Oct 22 2007, 05:50 PM)
Woah, then I'll lose all my hard waited profit.. tongue.gif
But I doubt it'll decrease that much..
Analysts are still upbeat on HK's market..
I think 0.2700 is a fair price to get in..
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 22 2007, 06:02 PM)
0.2700, I won't enter
0.2600, I might enter, It also will be depending on market status

I'm not in the hurry to enter... I can still wait  biggrin.gif

I've allocated RM10k for this PCSF (thanks to korea canceled trip)
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wah...0.25 is too much liao....

I'm looking at possibilty of lower than 0.27, but will not go below 0.26... wink.gif
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post Nov 3 2007, 10:07 PM

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Juz to add some comments on the claiming back the tax on distribution.

I personally do not prefer to claim back. Coz this might actually raise the eyes & ears of the LHDN.

A story fr my upline, last time she oso thought that she should claim back the excess tax. After filing back all the claim, she got it back, but LHDN pay her a visit. They starts to ask for the receipts/documents for cars, house, investment, etc. etc. When u file the claim, the LHDN suddenly realised that actually you got lots of money n yet your income tax is still in low tax bracket.

So, for those small amount of tax claim, you actually end up with more trouble. Juz give it to government to build our nation tongue.gif

This situation might not happened to everyone though.

My 2 cents smile.gif

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post Nov 3 2007, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 3 2007, 10:23 PM)
How about life insurance? Shall we file for tax relief too? Would I face the same situation as you described earlier?
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First of all, the excess tax claim is for the distribution, i.e consider a type of income. So, this one you are filing for a claim.

Life Insurance is different. For life insurance, you are actually filing for tax relief/rebate.
I'm not sure how much is the tax rebate, i suppose it is a few thousand.
It is juz similar to the rebate for buying books (RM500) or the medical fees.

In conclusion, Life Insurance you have to file for rebate during your submission of income tax...if not, your tax will be higher lor.
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post Nov 3 2007, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 3 2007, 10:34 PM)
kingkong81, thanks for the explaination. I'm noob in taxation.

My agent advised not to file the distribution since the amount is just petty.
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U r welcome. I'm oso not too knowledgable in taxation...very complex rclxub.gif

Yep...not worth it for the petty amount, then LHDN come knocking on your door. laugh.gif
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post Nov 6 2007, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(bluegreen @ Nov 6 2007, 11:43 AM)
I want to ask, does Singapore have Public Mutual? or some other investments worth looking into?

Since its all red for PM, is it a good time now to buy some funds? ie PBADF etc
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I dun think so there is Public Mutual in Singapore.

Anyway, foreigners still can invest in Public Mutual using their passport.

Yep...now is a good time to shoot a few
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post Nov 6 2007, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Nov 6 2007, 10:11 PM)
I'm only going to move to equity if KLCI drops below 1300

OT,

Today marked an important day. After topping up into FD today, my total portfolio exceed RM100k+ liao  rclxms.gif

From really broke (because of failed business and no salary for 4 months) to RM100k+ in 2 years times  rclxms.gif First time ever touching 6 digit

I'm so happy  icon_idea.gif
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Well, that is quite an achievement dzi921. getting back up after falling so hard is always difficult if u do not have enuf strength, believe & commitment.

Bravo to you rclxms.gif notworthy.gif

...I'm hoping to reach that level as well....GANBATE!!! flex.gif flex.gif


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post Nov 7 2007, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Nov 7 2007, 09:13 PM)
2 years+ ago, my business turned sour and failed because our big partners stopped funding. I've lost around RM50k (inclusive of 4 months unpaid salary). That time super broke. Went negative, and I was lucky that my GF (now wife) helped me through the tough time

Managed to get a job. Worked as Support. Starting salary RM3600. Was desperate, so gasak the job.

But after confirmation (6 months later) managed to jump to RM4600 and got married. Job requires a lot of travel so changed my car (9 years loan - no choice, no money)

Then I moved into marketing around 8 months in the company. I ran Malaysia like crazy. Worked hard

Now, age28  I've became top salesman for the MNC Company. A Head of the department. Income jump to RM7k - RM10k (after commission and incentive)

Other than that, I've got side income from adsense. Average Monthly, USD500 to USD700

I've made it,
-With my wife, who is understanding and supportive
-With my GM, who is a sifu
-With hard work and sacrifice. Running around Malaysia isn't easy, but the bright side is the claim and allowance is good
-With the hard work I put on my site. Spent 6 months with many sleepless nights doing it. Now, I've sold my site, in return for 3 years adsense space. No more maintenance work needed
-With the extra mile in work and proofed myself

Frankly speaking, I could have made it to 6 digit much earlier, but due to my overspending on gadgets/rubbish, luxury food, many holidays... the milestone got delayed...

That is why my next year resolution is to cut all those unnecessary cost and hope to save more and invest more
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Good example to inspire every1...nothing come easy without much hardwork.
Supportive role is not easy...you should cherish your wife more nod.gif

OT sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Nov 13 2007, 03:44 PM

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Shopping time is near biggrin.gif
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post Nov 16 2007, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 16 2007, 05:02 AM)
It takes roughly 2 weeks to create a new fund account. Would it be the same for switching to a new fund account?

Got the confirmation from my agent that he submitted my switching form to PCSF yesterday (15 November).
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Should be less than 2 weeks. I did my switching to another new fund...got my account in 1 week + time. Hopefully should b the same for u.

QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Nov 16 2007, 06:24 PM)
SEA sure only SEA related ma.....most important is vietnam market brows.gif
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Though Vietnam is one of the most profitable market in SEA for past 3 yrs, concentrating on Vietnam alone is definitely not a great idea. Vietnam might not be always growing like that. Other markets in SEA is oso experiencing growth, so diversification to other SEA markets can reduced risk as well as tap into the markets growth. So, all market oso make money laugh.gif
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post Nov 16 2007, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 16 2007, 11:03 PM)
SEA market also greatly influenced by US market. Once US have a sneeze, SEA market has a flu and cold. sleep.gif
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This is becoz US remains the major export destination for most ASEAN countries, and this makes our economy linked closely to US market. But with China & India emerging, export to US has been declining recently...in near future, China & India may be the last destination of export goods.
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post Nov 20 2007, 03:51 PM

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Great job chidori_nep

not only it is big...it is oso so red... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Nov 20 2007, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Nov 20 2007, 10:36 PM)
Lucky I switched all out that time smile.gif

Now waiting for the right time to switch back. Still dare not now cause seems too volatile. The path is not clear yet
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Haha...I still remember you condemning that you did your switching too early last time. Seems like you are doing the right thing laugh.gif wink.gif

But you r right to point that the path is not too clear...the wave is unsteady... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(The Apprentice @ Nov 22 2007, 12:56 PM)
How to identify a well equip and responsible PM agent? I am going invest my 1k. smile.gif
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Well I think you have to meet the agent and talk to him. See He can give you the confidence or not. Responsibility wise, you have to be an investor to know...if you know his client, can ask them oso (quite difficult oso since u oso know none of his client) smile.gif

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QUOTE(The Apprentice @ Nov 23 2007, 06:38 PM)
Noted. wink.gif Need how much then?
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First & foremost, you are investing your money for your own benefit, so the amount is what is comfortable for you financially. Make sure you do some budgeting before hand to know how much you can put.

2nd...there is no limit or amount that is set in order to get good service from an agent. If your agent is good n responsible, he will do his job and keep u updated no matter how much is ur investment.

Last time when i start investing I oso like you, start small. But my agent (now my upline) keep me well inform n whenever I wan to see her, she will try to make time. Because in Unit Trust, we do not stop at initial investment...we are looking for long-term growth relationship... smile.gif

QUOTE(nightc @ Nov 23 2007, 06:43 PM)
i invested 20k today on PCIF
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Great! thumbup.gif

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