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SUSDavid83
post Sep 25 2007, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(lwb @ Sep 25 2007, 10:03 AM)
look beyond a "few days"..
i've got a funny feeling that the world is playing musical-chair..
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Muscial chair? Such an abstract description, what does it mean?
SUSDavid83
post Sep 25 2007, 08:52 PM

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You pumped into which fund?
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post Sep 28 2007, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(lelong1234 @ Sep 28 2007, 08:15 PM)
I just switched some of my funds from PFEPRF to PCSF.

Hopefully its sooth sailing ahead...
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So fast give up on your PFEPRF. It aged less than 3 months. sweat.gif
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post Sep 28 2007, 09:07 PM

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How could PFEPRF make any gain? It's NAV is still lower than 0.2636 (using 5.45% service charge). Cannot break even.
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post Sep 28 2007, 09:17 PM

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If his average cost is less than 0.2605 (as per Thursday closing price), he'll make a little profit or break even.
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post Sep 28 2007, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 28 2007, 09:20 PM)
Yeap..
I guess you were calculating the price if he bought during launching..?
Most of the funds went down below their launching price, so now already breakeven for some..
I bought 4 out of my funds below launching price..
Only one bugger I bought during launching, and that is making me lose the most..
Stupid PBEPEF..  mad.gif
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I think I'm using that initial price and provided that he didn't topup in between and only one or two SI have been performed. My average unit cost is 0.2637 and I'm still in lost of 1.21%
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post Sep 28 2007, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 28 2007, 09:31 PM)
Oh, so what's your plan for PFEPRF..?
I'm now incurring a lost of 0.285% for it..
The next time its price increases, I'll breakeven and I'll switch it between my PIADF and PCSF..
These are my 2 top performing funds..
PIADF gave me a gain of 6.05% while PCSF gave me 10.61%..
And lets not forgetting my PBADF, with a gain of 6% which I'll repurchase when it hits 10% and divide it between PIADF and PCSF..
Mind to share your gain..? smile.gif
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I think that I'll just keep my PFEPRF since I didn't dump much in it and I have faith on it while still monitoring on it. PCSF is lucrative and I don't have an account on it. It's a high risk fund and I have missed the train. I don't think that I'll be considering it.

My simple rate of return of all my funds are:

PFES - 40.91%
PAIF - 6.88%
PFEPRF - -1.21%
PSBF - 3.36% (I want to reduce the portion with this and still scouting for a better local fund).

Might be considering to but the new South East Asia fund next month.

QUOTE(lelong1234 @ Sep 28 2007, 09:41 PM)
I from my total investment in PFEPRF i was losing abit less then RM50 only. This was because i made 2 topups when the price was lower, cant remember the exact price.

I didnt switch all my funds out of PFEPRF into PCSF. I switched about 3/5 of it.  Coz i am a new investor, so i thought better to have two funds, that why i have greater exposure and abit less risky.

Btw, I switched it today before 3pm. Does that mean that i bought the units at the NAV listed at PM website today or is the one thats gona be on tomorrow? My agent told me earlier but i kinda forgotten.  blush.gif
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How you switched? Tele-mutual or submit an application to PM office?
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post Sep 28 2007, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(lelong1234 @ Sep 28 2007, 10:02 PM)
Oh.. thanks for the info..

Your lost is probably a little higher because you invested more than me.  smile.gif

One more thing, how go I go about registering for the telemutual service? Can I use telemutual to switch over into a fund that i previously never held?
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You have to get an application form from PM office. Switching can be done to any fund even if you have no account with the switched in fund.


QUOTE(dzi921 @ Sep 28 2007, 10:17 PM)
So when you bought PFES??? So good profit ah
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Since initial period roughly 2 years ago. PFES declared distribution few months ago. It used to be higher and PFES is also affected by US subprime crisis two to three months ago.

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post Sep 28 2007, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 28 2007, 10:27 PM)
Maybe.. tongue.gif
You can't switch funds using telemutual..
You need to hand in the switching form..
Good profit on the PFES..
But considering 2 years, annualised 20.45%..
You didn't lock in your profit along the way..?
Could be more if you do that..
But why choose local fund..?
Local sentiment not as good compared to regional peers..
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I locked my profit once and I feel a little regretted of doing that. Perhaps too panicked.

To balance up my portfolio. Used to have PITTIKIAL and if I don't switch out that, I would be enjoying a very high return. Perhaps another mistake.

This post has been edited by David83: Sep 28 2007, 10:31 PM
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post Sep 28 2007, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 28 2007, 10:33 PM)
People are bound to make mistakes in their decisions..
Not too much to worry about that..
Now DJ is plumetting, so I think Monday is not a good day for me to switch..
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Ha! Ha! That could explain why my PSBF is contributing a higher proportion. Locked my profit by switching out all my PITTIKIAL and roughly 50% of my PFES. sweat.gif Really big mistake!
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post Sep 28 2007, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 28 2007, 10:43 PM)
That is painful lol..
Luckily I just started end of August..
If not now I'll be losing money..
I bought in almost at their lowest..
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You have a very good vision and prediction. Ha! Ha!

I'm putting a bet on PAIF. How I could outperform like its brother, PITTIKIAL. notworthy.gif
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post Sep 28 2007, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 28 2007, 11:04 PM)
PAIF is making good profit..
It's at its high now..
Looks like it's going stronger.. thumbup.gif
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I switched in from my bond fund in May 2007 and that explained why I don't have an impressive return. I wanted to buy this fund during its initial period but that time, I was still jobless and do not have much cash to spare.
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post Sep 28 2007, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 28 2007, 11:23 PM)
Don't worry, it still has more upside to go, maybe it can't outperform ITTIKAL, but it will still outperform most of its peers..
I might be considering it, but I'm still waiting for the facts of SEA fund to be mailed to me tomorrow..
Then I'll see which fund to get..
What about you..?
Any info on the SEA fund..?
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I'm not agent for first.

I asked my agent and he said the new SEA fund will be like PFES and it will be a redundant to my portfolio.

Not much info I could dig from him. Perhaps some forumer in here who is an agent could post more details.
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post Sep 29 2007, 07:57 AM

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ASEAN market is relatively volatile after China. Perhaps PSEASF is good for aggresive player.
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post Sep 29 2007, 09:10 PM

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Emerging Asian markets will be China in the leading lead and then following by booming India and Vietnam. SEA market is very vulnerable to worldwide upset. Small news could create an economic havoc.
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post Sep 30 2007, 08:28 PM

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I'm thinking of switching some units from PSBF to PFEPRF. What you guys think?
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post Sep 30 2007, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Sep 30 2007, 08:57 PM)
I would if I were you smile.gif Market now heading up, better keep in equity than bond now
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Which fund would you suggest? PFEPRF is not a purely equity fund.
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post Sep 30 2007, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Sep 30 2007, 09:06 PM)
Your PSBF is loaded? If loaded I will got for PAIF, if not loaded I not touch it

I have decided not to buy/switch once index exceed 1300 liao

This is me only. It's really up to ur guts

PS, seems like you do not have much local funds? Any reason?
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All the units in PSBF are loaded. PAIF has been up for the last two weeks. It may be expensive to go in now unless I could assure that the market will be still going up. NAV for PAIF is 0.3239 as of September 28.

I don't have a local fund because my favourite fund, PITTIKIAL has been closed for more than a year. That's the only local fund I have in my investment history with PM.

This post has been edited by David83: Sep 30 2007, 09:13 PM
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post Oct 1 2007, 09:01 PM

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My current plan:

1. Repurchase 50% of loaded units in PSBF and invest in PSEASF. Hope I could repurchase on time before the initial period ends. Repurchase has no additional charge right?
2. Switch the remaining loaded units in PSBF to PFEPRF.
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post Oct 2 2007, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Oct 2 2007, 10:55 AM)
Repurchase your loaded units and invest in PSEASF, definitely you loss your service charge. Why you want to do so? You can switch it, if can't switch during offering period, you switch after that, you still save 5.45% service charge.
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It's new fund and I can't switch during the initial period. Well, I guess it has potential to grow.

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