Why u all want turbo charge so much? Isnt the fast charge thing will degrade battery faster?
Xiaomi Redmi K40/POCO F3 Discussion
Xiaomi Redmi K40/POCO F3 Discussion
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Apr 18 2021, 06:49 PM
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Why u all want turbo charge so much? Isnt the fast charge thing will degrade battery faster?
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Apr 18 2021, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(layzieboy @ Apr 18 2021, 05:50 PM) I think someone should test this out and see the real diff between mi turbo charger triggered vs not triggered {quick charge} . Maybe the diff is not that much. Mi turbo charge from 15% to 100% about 45mQuick charge from 12% to 100% about 1h8m QUOTE(blibala @ Apr 18 2021, 06:49 PM) Sure it will degrade faster than normal charge, but the degardation is not so fast for current type of battery compare to older one. To me it's better to use the turbo charge to save time unless you want to charge it overnight, so can use normal charge. Just avoid to completely drained the battery to 0% as it will reduce the battery life. Ideal battery charge level is between 20-80%. stephenthk, Skeuomorphic, and 2 others liked this post
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Apr 18 2021, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(blibala @ Apr 18 2021, 06:49 PM) it's like double speed of fast charging. 33w is not considered very fast, and xiaomi original battery is also affordable compare to Samsung battery. Skeuomorphic liked this post
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Apr 18 2021, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Apr 18 2021, 04:10 PM) The pd port is full 45w. I can confirm some ppl tried it for some laptops. PD port on this powerbank max out at 40W, which is a pain in the a** for charging laptop as it may trigger the popup of under wattage charger. They should had bumped it to 45W instead...![]() But Xiaomi 33w isn't pd charging. Xiaomi’s 33W charging is based on 11Vx3A, which isn’t a standard covered by PD. Perhaps a PPS charger like that of Samsung can trigger the 11V. This post has been edited by msacras: Apr 18 2021, 07:54 PM |
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Apr 18 2021, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE(layzieboy @ Apr 18 2021, 05:50 PM) I think someone should test this out and see the real diff between mi turbo charger triggered vs not triggered {quick charge} . Maybe the diff is not that much. I have :65W PD/QC car charger - MI10 trigger QC @ 1% per min 100W Xiaomi car charger - MI10 trigger Turbo Charge @ >1% per min (very2 fast) For cable , you need cable that is spec for 5A. Best is get those with E-mark as those confirm support 100W power For Mi Turbo , you need the charger to support PD & PPS charging. I can confirm this This post has been edited by NooBiE888: Apr 18 2021, 07:57 PM |
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Apr 18 2021, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(soultaker @ Apr 18 2021, 07:15 PM) Mi turbo charge from 15% to 100% about 45m Quick charge from 12% to 100% about 1h8m Sure it will degrade faster than normal charge, but the degardation is not so fast for current type of battery compare to older one. To me it's better to use the turbo charge to save time unless you want to charge it overnight, so can use normal charge. Just avoid to completely drained the battery to 0% as it will reduce the battery life. Ideal battery charge level is between 20-80%. QUOTE(msacras @ Apr 18 2021, 07:48 PM) PD port on this powerbank max out at 40W, which is a pain in the a** for charging laptop as it may trigger the popup of under wattage charger. They should had bumped it to 45W instead... Xiaomi’s 33W charging is based on 11Vx3A, which isn’t a standard covered by PD. Perhaps a PPS charger like that of Samsung can trigger the 11V. QUOTE(NooBiE888 @ Apr 18 2021, 07:53 PM) I have : Thanks guys. Learnt something today, looks like PPS is the keyword and you need a power supply that supports it to trigger mi turbo. This is further confirmed in this chinese article (found via reddit)https://www.chongdiantou.com/wp/archives/35962.html65W PD/QC car charger - MI10 trigger QC @ 1% per min 100W Xiaomi car charger - MI10 trigger Turbo Charge @ >1% per min (very2 fast) For cable , you need cable that is spec for 5A. Best is get those with E-mark as those confirm support 100W power For Mi Turbo , you need the charger to support PD & PPS charging. I can confirm this Edit: Scratch that, reading the article further some PPS chargers does not trigger the handshake for mi turbo unless you plug in a compatible one first This post has been edited by layzieboy: Apr 18 2021, 08:24 PM |
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Apr 18 2021, 09:09 PM
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Apr 18 2021, 09:20 PM
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Did the 8gb version of poco f3 consume more battery than 6gb?
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Apr 18 2021, 10:25 PM
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Apr 18 2021, 11:14 PM
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Now it's getting confusing high tech talk for me. Anyone knows any powerbank support pd+pps that will trigger mi turbo?
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Apr 18 2021, 11:29 PM
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hmm, do you guys think the 6 +128gb is lacking compare to 8+256gb ?? I have receive the 6+128gb, and been idle for 8 days, so was debating whether to sell the 6 or wait sale of the 8gb?
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Apr 18 2021, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(Kelvin1_1 @ Apr 18 2021, 11:29 PM) hmm, do you guys think the 6 +128gb is lacking compare to 8+256gb ?? I have receive the 6+128gb, and been idle for 8 days, so was debating whether to sell the 6 or wait sale of the 8gb? it depends on your usage. If you like to play games and take photos, definitely go for 8+256gb. If you use it to watch videos and browsing, 6+128gb is totally enough. I migrated apps from my old phone and already filled up 99.9gb of storage. |
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Apr 18 2021, 11:52 PM
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anyone tried to install ibywind camera metal protection? how is it ? will it affect the camera performance like blocking the wide angle etc.
and anyone tried to put the back film the come with ibywind tempered how is it? |
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Apr 18 2021, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(Seth Ho @ Apr 18 2021, 11:52 PM) anyone tried to install ibywind camera metal protection? how is it ? will it affect the camera performance like blocking the wide angle etc. i installed the camera one. doesnt block wide angle it seems. back film i din install.. mau showoff that whiteand anyone tried to put the back film the come with ibywind tempered how is it? |
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Apr 19 2021, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(Silfer @ Apr 19 2021, 12:53 AM) i installed the camera one. doesnt block wide angle it seems. back film i din install.. mau showoff that white Unfortunaly my one is black so many finger prints |
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Apr 19 2021, 12:05 AM
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Apr 19 2021, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Apr 18 2021, 11:42 PM) it depends on your usage. If you like to play games and take photos, definitely go for 8+256gb. If you use it to watch videos and browsing, 6+128gb is totally enough. I migrated apps from my old phone and already filled up 99.9gb of storage. What storage does your old phone has that took up almost 100gb though ? I only play brawl star, photos I am interested in learning as this poco f3 seems not bad |
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Apr 19 2021, 01:39 AM
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Apr 19 2021, 02:00 AM
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QUOTE(msacras @ Apr 19 2021, 01:39 AM) That's the 33w or higher one? Xiaomi is using both 11v3a and 20v3.2a. Other brands got their own custom powerbanks yet Xiaomi doesn't I don't understand their reasoning.![]() I seen somewhere in Russians ads mcdodo with multi charge powerbanks can run mi turbo since I couldn't see the model number I tried the one I got that can charge oneplus Huawei oppo. Its still unfortunately just quick charge. _______________________________________________________________ Edit: I found this. I already got older gen Huawei powerbank that one I can confirm it can't mi turbo. If anyone got this model pls give it a try ![]() Here is the spec of Huawei powerbank 20v3.25a that is one of the mi turbo faster speed one. Not sure about 11v6a since xiaomi is 3a ![]() This post has been edited by KopiChia: Apr 19 2021, 02:23 AM |
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Apr 19 2021, 04:16 AM
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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Apr 19 2021, 02:00 AM) That's the 33w or higher one? Xiaomi is using both 11v3a and 20v3.2a. Other brands got their own custom powerbanks yet Xiaomi doesn't I don't understand their reasoning. Most phone can’t do upright 20V charging, as it will generate insane amount of heat. That’s why when you charge your Xiaomi with these 45-100W charger, they still can’t turbo-charge.![]() I seen somewhere in Russians ads mcdodo with multi charge powerbanks can run mi turbo since I couldn't see the model number I tried the one I got that can charge oneplus Huawei oppo. Its still unfortunately just quick charge. _______________________________________________________________ Edit: I found this. I already got older gen Huawei powerbank that one I can confirm it can't mi turbo. If anyone got this model pls give it a try ![]() Here is the spec of Huawei powerbank 20v3.25a that is one of the mi turbo faster speed one. Not sure about 11v6a since xiaomi is 3a ![]() Thus, optimal fast/turbo charging will likely keep within 10-15V so it can balance out the heat and charging rate. Factor in the fact that typical cable is rated for only 3A, that will mean the wattage is typically between 30-45W. Though for Samsung, they opted for 4.5A charging with 10V PPS, hence their 45W. And because of the 4.5A, they will need to use e-marker 5A rated cable. For this case (actually it started since last year’s Mi10 vanilla, the use of 33W charging), we can see that Xiaomi’s turbo charge is based on 11V3A. So technically speaking, the huawei powerbank you shown above with 11V6A can actually Turbo charge it. But ultimately, these fast charge protocol need to have compliances on both device, cable and charger/powerbank, so I’m won’t give guarantee that this Huawei charger will have Xiaomi’s Turbo charge compliance... P/S: Apparently even when using 33/65W Xiaomi charger, most Xiaomi devices still charge at 9V, paired with 3A will mean 27W. So that mean even using stock chargers also Xiaomi decides unlikely to utilise the 11V3A protocol. https://m.cnbeta.com/view/1097189.htm This post has been edited by msacras: Apr 19 2021, 04:33 AM |
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