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post Apr 12 2021, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Apr 12 2021, 08:24 PM)
Anyone meet with girl that ask you to add their wechat and sexcam? is this a scam? i ask the girl to meet up first she keep saying if i dint show her my penis she wont come out date.

Any lowyat forumer experience this? i try check her IG and FB doesnt seem to have a lot photo. kindly pm me if anyone experience such thing.. i met her at Dating FB platform
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Sounds like either of the following
- scammer
- sexual harassment
- crazy. Don't stick your d in crazies

Either way she's not looking for a long term relationship lol.

Try doing Google image search, maybe the profiles are fabricated using stolen photos?
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post Apr 19 2021, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(siew14 @ Apr 19 2021, 10:20 AM)
to all the users here, just wan to ask... have you ever skipped 1-2 days didnt reply the person or end the conversation first thereafter msg 1-2 days later? I notice if skip even 1 day, the feeling toward the person can be different already...

i seen some dating advice from youtube is like, they said no need to message everyday, quality > quantity. But this method didnt specifically say is for the person you have met or for online dating.

Logically speaking, i feel is OK to text once a while when you met some one randomly, but in dating app, somehow must keep the conversation going and not skipping 1-2 days only reply.

Hope you can understand where i m coming from....
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I'm beginning to realise that apps that impose time limit aren't quite for me. I reply about once a day, usually going off grid until night when I finally pick up my phone after work.

I get what you mean by different feeling -- I have a feeling (ayy punny) I'm coming off as uninterested because I hardly reply immediately. On CMB, there were several exchanges that felt okay but they usually just expire and none bothered to extend. I don't, because I didn't feel connected enough to bother - it didn't seem they were trying harder (short replies) although I gave long replies (my way of "atoning" for my lack of reply frequency haha).

On the contrary, say, FB dating, I was allowed to focus irl and get to my messages later, and the chats don't expire. The problem here is that the online exchange gets really long (read: weeks). To me, I take that as advantage because then we get to connect longer to a point it's comfortable for me to ask, "helloooo when are we meeting?"

I think it's a matter of preference; most guys who asked for my phone number or meet me on first exchange, ended up immediately ghosting/blocking me when I refused. They don't need to waste time on me, I don't need to risk my own comfort.

"Agree to disagree, have a nice day" kind of thing, I guess.
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post Apr 21 2021, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Apr 20 2021, 12:23 PM)
if a girl doesnt bother to reply on time restraining apps like CMB, they're just looking for attentions or aren't serious to go out with any guys
most girls already made their decisions when they see your photos, all they require to meet up is some comfort and talks
girls will also block you when you do nothing wrong, or they are feeling insecure in general that you don't reply them on time or they sense you with multiple girls.
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Like I said, time restraining apps may not be for everyone, and it may take time for one to realise that.
Then again, you already know about all the girls in the world so you're right that way.

QUOTE(siew14 @ Apr 20 2021, 02:57 PM)
Because matches coming in every day. Hard to stay focus on one. I m a not pro that can chat with multiple women yet still can maintain the flow/conversation, what ever you call it. Is like once I find this new match interesting, I put the rest aside first. Then once my core match not unavailable, I will go back to those that I have put aside. Then again, the feeling sometime is no longer there… maybe I m a beginner.
Hence, sometimes 1-2 days or just late reply. Btw, I don’t think I m a player/jerk, cause I believe girl does that too…
What do you mean by off grid? Means you:
1) logout from the app?
2) just read the msg that you receive and reply later
3) Didn’t bother about the app , just leave the notification there only
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Mix of 2/3... Sometimes I can read but not enough time to reply and/or get distracted irl, then forgot about it. Either way, the other side probably perceived that as disinterested soooo...

I'd say if you matched multiple girls already, then just keep up with chatting with them. It's very normal to chat or even go out with many as long as you're not official/committed to any -- I personally don't think there's a need to state this explicitly to every single person you talk to, but at least you should expect the other side to do this. And with that, you should also make it clear of your expectations to someone you want to take a step further with i.e. to make it official or whatnot.
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post May 13 2021, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Hoka Nobasho @ May 13 2021, 12:05 PM)
DO NOT USE DATING APPS if you are NOT good-looking. I am serious.
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I beg to differ -- no harm trying as long as you play it safe:
- COVID-19 SOP (social distancing, masks on whatnot)
- dating SOP ("if it is too good to be true, it probably isn't." Meet in public places with people around, don't create a situation where the both of you might end up alone and get robbed/scammed/violated)

Dating app isn't for everyone, and every person has their own ways of dating - there is no one-size-fits-all strategy:
- If you're good at texting, it is a good platform to get started and earn yourself a good first impression.
- If you need time to warm up, then dating apps with time limit upon matching is not a good choice for you. Not everyone is comfortable with sharing their private contact information early.
- If you prefer meeting someone right off the bat, then find someone who also shares the same view as you.
- Ghosting/getting ghosted: while unethical, it is very common and it is a good place for you to realise that rejection is normal and you just have to suck it up and move on. It's where you learn to get beaten up inside, stand up and say, "next!" -- this also builds up your confidence if you take it with the right mindset.
- Some are looking for long-term, serious and committed relationship, while some others aren't. Be clear to one another about what you're looking for so you don't end up wasting each other's time. Don't bend your standards/values for someone you find attractive but have different core values with you, I don't think it'll end well.

If you tried and tried, analysed all your failures and realise, "okay, dating app is not a good platform for me because there are too many fakers and I am not good at identifying one", then it's okay to just give it up and look elsewhere. Just because you think it doesn't work for you, does not mean it won't work for others. In this time and age, in our culture where we frown upon strangers walking up to you and flirt, I think it's normal to try all means available to you to increase your chances of finding someone for you.

Lastly, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally don't think I'm good looking, but apparently someone found my head banging dance video "graceful" laugh.gif I'm not saying to stop improving yourself and stay sloppy while hoping for a random person to pick you up and accept you as is -- I'm saying to keep improving and keep trying.
You don't like those acne on your face? Try consulting skin specialist/dermatologist.
You don't like your body proportion? Consider changing your diet and adopt a more physically active lifestyle.
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post May 14 2021, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Hoka Nobasho @ May 13 2021, 03:42 PM)
I like how in the beginning you talked about how looks don't matter, and then gradually as we approach the end of your point, you begin bringing up points where appearances do matter? Which is which exactly?
Not if you read my previous reply to you though. They're not "all" that matters, but they do matter substantially in dating apps when you're at the mercy of someone evaluating you directly from the face first. It's a design flaw, not that "LMS matters".
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Hi, you misunderstood me. Looks matter, let's not kid anyone here. Just like in job interviews, you don't show up with unkempt hair, t-shirt and shorts and expect people to view you equally as others who put in more effort to look more presentable.

What I mean here by "beauty" is equivalent to your definition of "good-looking", which I am assuming you're referring to people who what we call, handsome/beautiful/cute/sexy etc, and they would qualify as eye candy, or someone who earns extra gazes from others in the public for their good looks.

I'm saying, no you don't have to be on that far end of the spectrum, but make sure you like who you are yourself. Be comfortable in your own skin. Put in the effort to present a good self, so that at the end of the day, you know you've done your best. You can't control what others think of you, and if someone has the audacity to call you ugly and reject you, that's on them, not you. Someone else might come along and say they like your quirky coin slot eyes.
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post Nov 2 2021, 02:00 AM

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Yeah, you.

Apasal ghost for no reason? Why are you reluctant to share a photo? If you're afraid to show face then don't bother dating cuz no one wants a 100% virtual date forever.
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post Nov 2 2021, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Nov 2 2021, 08:47 AM)
My cmb profile already got it.
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Ok, so what's the problem sharing one more recent one? As long as you keep your private information safe, like phone number, IC, address... I don't think she can do anything with just a photo.
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post Jul 18 2022, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(nicole_4ever @ Jul 18 2022, 12:31 AM)
I met my bf from here sweat.gif

Before I met him, I used a lot of apps end up all scams.

Becareful when using.
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Ayy congratulations! All the best and may you both grow together smile.gif

@topic:
I have used these two and met genuine people:
1. Coffee Meets Bagel
2. Facebook Dating
...Met my current bf from (2) tongue.gif

Regardless of apps, you should just skip 10/10 profiles because if it's too good to be true, then it's not! Aside from CMB which has the 7-day match period, I see no need to connect outside the app. I spoke with more guys with (1) but less made it to meetup stage because I couldn't warm up quickly enough to feel comfortable to share my contact.
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post Jul 18 2022, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Jul 18 2022, 02:47 AM)
Thats why girl like your pattern are mostly window shopping and couldnt make a decision to make effort to meet up or not. For me its either do or dont. Ive met some chill girl either they work for oversea travel or even single moms, they're straight down for chat irl.

No bull shit. I dont get why these girls or guys esp, chat for what online for how long? The more you chat the more you're going to make mistakes online.
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Some ladies have lower threshold for safety (not wrong, just personal preference), but for those who are like me, we just want to avoid sharing contact to potential stalkers or scammers that sell your info yknow...

For me, I hate small talks that go nowhere like, what are you doing today, what you wear today, how was work, good morning afternoon evening night stfuuuu. I try to get to know the person la by asking things like interest, past experiences/traumas (not sexperiences ya sweat.gif ), travelling preferences etc, usually extrapolating from whatever they write on profile to make less boring "template like".

Again it's just preference, I can tolerate long ass text but I understand it might turn off someone else lol. I've had a fair share of matches who unmatched me straightaway when I said I prefer to chat a bit more than to meet irl immediately.
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post Jul 18 2022, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jul 18 2022, 07:25 AM)
Can CMB set distance ?
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I remember can, but I haven't used it for almost 2 years d so memory might be wrong ..
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 18 2022, 05:00 PM)
Yeah. It was suggested section. I click heart instead of message.
Yeah use beans. Next time I will just message then like/heart them.
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Wow sifu from finance subforum diversifying into love life brows.gif
Kasi 2 cents here: Always go the extra mile by leaving personalised messages to every person you like: ask/comment something about their profile to start the conversation:
- skip the formality: hi how are you etc. are pointless exchanges to me. I hate small talks tongue.gif
- get to know the person faster: see how they talk about themselves, and whether they steer the conversation back to you (to show mutual interest)
- show your sincerity in investing for the to-be relationship: after all, if you can't even spend the extra minutes to write a nice message to start, will you even commit down the road?

People can tell if you copy paste message like "hi beauty, I like your profile smile.gif" it's a turnoff no matter how flowery you decorate your template message.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 18 2022, 10:58 PM)
Getting old la. Need to settle down.

Thanks for the tips. Yike. I have just been leaving likes without any messages. No wonder no text or likes back sad.gif

What's your recommendation range? I put 80km. Don't know if it's too big area.
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Oh, mind if I ask what's your age? I think CMB is a platform for 20s-30s... Not sure about the pool for other age groups.

Personally, I prefer meeting weekly and 80km would be too far for my taste to make that happen... So I put 40 back then.

Also, just to give more perspective to you... I used 2 dating apps back then for about 2 years, FB dating being the other -- that's also where I met my bf tongue.gif I think it's totally fine to use multiple apps to see which app you like more, but be warned that it does not necessarily speed things up, because you will start seeing duplicate profiles on both apps. It takes a lot of time to sift through many fake/scammer profiles, so it can get pretty disheartening sometimes. Don't give up if you are sure that you want to settle down with a partner one day, but remember you can always do it at your own pace and take breaks whenever you want smile.gif
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post Oct 5 2022, 03:03 AM

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I've been hesitant to question the need to pay premium for dating agencies, or even to get premium features on the apps.... But given my gender, I may come off as inconsiderate for men's circumstances sweat.gif glad to know others share same sentiment!

In my experience back then (as lady looking for men), I did encounter lots of bad profiles (scammers, hookup, undesirable, duplicate across platforms,...) But I simply worked within the free versions -- browsed 10 per day on CMB, if got mood then look into suggestions, never had the urge to pay to use more...

It's just so time consuming to engage with strangers to me, I just took my time lah. Already 30yo, +1 or 2 more years no difference ady laugh.gif
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QUOTE(justapawn @ Oct 17 2022, 01:41 PM)
Can elaborate what's wrong with duplicate profile across platforms??? I actually don't see it as a red flag as long as he is genuine looking for a healthy BGR. Hope you are not offended as I don't mean anything personal. thx
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I don't mean it as a red flag against the guy, but was referring to the "10 profiles per day" limitation by CMB that a duplicate profile would be wasting the quota. That said, I used multiple apps too and was also part of the problem lol.
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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Apr 17 2023, 11:13 PM)
hi i used free version of tinder tantan omi okcupid, my profile is a mugshot with my job title industry and edu background, my matches on tantan comprise of 95% scammer and 5% low quality girl, other apps al low quality, will paying premium help me
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Hi, short answer: no.
Long answer:
Finding a decent match takes a very long time, and even then you still need to meet up a few times before you can decide if s/he is a potential partner. I think... roughly out of 100 profiles you'll see:
- 80 are scammers or low quality profiles
- 10 are inactive/unresponsive after you match/liked
- 9 are found incompatible as you chat on app.
- 1 is a person you finally meet up

For example with Coffee Meets Bagel, it limits the frequency of you browsing through profiles, however the profiles there are generally higher quality.
For example with FB dating, there's no restriction and afaik no payment whatsoever, but the profiles there are way worse, the ratio is skewed more towards scammers/low quality profiles.

You can pay for CMB, sure, but I personally did not because I didn't want to try THAT hard, because every potential connection you make (those 9+1 put of that 100), you need to spend time and effort to try to connect. I treated the restriction as opportunity for me to take breaks.
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post Apr 26 2023, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Apr 26 2023, 10:57 PM)
I don’t get any matches on cmb while I get tons of scammers and low quality girl, prove that cmb is scammer-proof

Putting my job title and education on my profile apparently didn’t help, I still get zero matches on cmb. My photo is a company mugshot and a workout photo, anything I can do to my profile more appealing ?
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By company mugshot, if it looks like a passport or IC photo then that screams "boring".
Workout photos show your sweaty ass look, it's hardly good looking... I think you'd be better off writing your routine/hobby but not showing it in photo.
Selfies imply narcissism/lonesome, kinda turnoff.
Avoid topless photos unless you're looking for hookups.

Try a solo photo taken by your family/friends that you like. If you don't have then go out socialise more (don't forget to take a picture especially if you're wearing nice or the scenery is good!). That should be your main profile picture.
Add some group photos with you in it, preferably surrounded by your family/close friends. It makes you more approachable/friendly.
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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 4 2023, 06:49 AM)
My mugshot is my best looking photo, I think is the filter. I do have group photos, it didn’t help, been adding a few more group photos, still zero matches.

Will paying premium help or a waste of my money?

How about lunch actually, 4k+ for two matches, for someone who gets zero matches on CMB, is it a risky investment, it sounds really unreasonable but I’m running out of choices

I will pay anyone who can help me find a gf, just suggest a channel

What is my chance to get a decent looking gf at all? 28, engineering designer, 3000sgd a month income, 166cm, a bit odd looking, is my career decent enough to cover my appearance and height
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From what you're telling me, you better save the money and work on yourself. You keep saying you're odd looking -- you don't even like your own looks, how do you expect a stranger to take interest in you at all? Say if you earn 20k per month, will you truly be happy that a girl takes an interest in you, or will you doubt that she's in for the money? Be careful when you think money attracts girls. Sure it does, but I daresay it's the wrong type of girls for long term relationships.

Few k to match 2 girls ....... "Running out of choices"? You sound way too desperate. To pay thousands for an agency(?) to feed you 2 matches who may be receiving commission or something to go out with you, I'd say totally not worth it. Then again, maybe that amount is not a big deal to you, and it's all about your personal priorities. If you think it's worth the try to gain some experience, sure, go ahead. Just don't expect success from the get go.
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post Dec 29 2023, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Imaginebreaker @ Dec 28 2023, 10:22 PM)
Hi guys, I need your advice. I signed up for OKC a few days ago and I got a match today. We started chatting. Then she gave me her tel no which is a Taiwanese number and ask to continue at Whatsapp. I smell a scam, any experiences you can share here?
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Yup sounds about right:
1. She's probably pretty
2. Very eager and chatty
3. Overseas
4. Quick to jump to private platform
5. Most decisive one is when she does either one of below:
- ajak go restaurant that is known to house scammers who would order super expensive wine that isn't even good. (Read Google reviews)
- talk about money and eventually shows you a website/app, and hard sells it to you
- asks you to install APK outside play store
- asks you for nudes
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post Jan 2 2024, 06:39 PM

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Have you guys tried Facebook Dating? It worked for me... I think if you spend a bit more time to just quickly swipe out the scammer(foreigner) profiles, you might find someone real to chat with.

Not sure from guy's perspective but on my side when I used it during pandemic, it was a lot more effort to spam swipe left cuz a lot of African/middle eastern/"US/SG expat ultra good looking Chinese" profiles laugh.gif but the good thing is, there's no limit whatsoever, and it's also interesting to see mutual friends occasionally. Note: FB dating will not recommend* you direct friends for privacy reasons, in case you don't want your own friends/family to know you're in it. *IIRC this is configurable to turn on/off, not sure if still true or not.

Profile quality was generally lower also, because many created their profiles based on their Facebook photos that are generally older, so it might be off putting... But I try to see that as a plus point like, "at least they're real Malaysians".
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 2 2024, 10:16 PM)
Who uses FB nowadays. Lol.
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